Kismaayo issue: Survival for some, imperialism for others.

[Somalian_Boqor]

Luq_Ganane

Dude my part of the Country is violence free. Dowladnimo exits, We have our own state. Our own army, police. An growing economy unseen in the rest of Somalia. Our port is is among the best in the whole of east Africa. Our cities have doubled in the last 10 years. We have a system in place to govern our selfs. As for you what have you done for yourself in the past 16 years. The best you came up with was the JVA lol an alliance you went in with Ceyr because you feared an invasion from me so much.

You guys are among the clans that have brought shame to Somalia. You guys are among the animals. There have been 14 other governments in Somalia that didn't work some only controlled a street or two in Mogadishu. The new Government I lead has the whole of South Somalia in check. We have made states for you. We are teaching you about Dowladnimo.

Show respect saaxib.

[Somalian_Boqor]

[quote="Mad_Dog206"][quote="sadeboi"]


This is the next excuse for the third defeat to come....[/quote]




SOmalia=south. Puntland has shown to be irrelevent in the last 16 years and especially in Carta. Abdullahi Yusuf is one man, Puntland will be going back to its insignificance from where the real power power that will rule Somalia will lie.[/quote]


Puntland will never be irrelevent. It's 1/3 of Somalia all by itself you idiot so how could 1/3 of Somalia be irrelevent. Dude the TFG exits today because of Puntland. We are a donor State we give money out to TFG but the returns are much better. The seat the mooryaans have been fighting over for the last 17 years is mine will will stay that way for the next 10 years.

THE Somalia everyone is talking about is Puntland.

Somalia oil deal for China.


Mogadishu 14, July.07 ( Sh.M.Network)- The Chinese state oil giant, CNOOC, has won permission to search for oil in part of Somalia, underlining China's willingness to brave Africa's most volatile regions in its hunt for natural resources.

Somalia has been a no-go area for US oil companies since it descended into anarchy in the early 1990s. This year the capital, Mogadishu, has seen its worst violence in 16 years as insurgents seek to topple a fragile interim government.

But CNOOC has not been deterred and last month met Somali government officials in a Nairobi hotel to hammer out the details of its planned survey work, which is due to begin in September.

Chinese state-owned companies have become a heavyweight presence in Africa as the country seeks to secure resources for its booming economy as well as market access for its own goods and services.

CNOOC, China's largest offshore oil and gas producer, has been at the vanguard of the drive: it constructed oil pipelines in southern Sudan in the late 1990s even as a civil war raged between separatist rebels and the Islamist regime in Khartoum.

The Chinese company's deal with Somalia's transitional federal government gives it exploration rights in the north Mudug region, some 500km north-east of the capital.
CNOOC and a smaller group, China International Oil and Gas (CIOG), signed a production-sharing contract with the interim government in May 2006. The contract, which gives the government 51 per cent of oil revenues, was endorsed at last November's China-Africa summit in Beijing.

At a meeting in Nairobi on June 24 - a record of which has been seen by the Financial Times - parts of the agreement were clarified by Abdullahi Yusuf Mohamad, the Somali energy minister, Chen Zhuobiao, managing director of CNOOC Africa, and Judah Jay, managing director of CIOG.

According to the US Energy Information Administration, Somalia has no proved oil reserves and only 200bn cubic feet of proved natural gas reserves, which have not been tapped.

In the late 1980s exploration concessions were held by companies including Conoco and Phillips, which have since merged; Amoco, now part of BP; and Chevron. They fled the country after dictator Mohamed Siad Barre was overthrown during civil war in 1991.

The data collected by oil companies has formed the basis of interest in Somalia today. Range Resources, an oil group listed in Sydney, estimates that the Puntland province - which includes the Mudug region - has the potential to yield 5bn-10bn barrels of oil.
Puntland is semi-autonomous and relatively stable compared with Mogadishu, where insurgents are launching near-daily assaults on the government and its Ethiopian military backers.

A reconciliation conference due to open on Sunday is expected to attract still more attacks.

The government is preparing a new national oil law even though its authority across the country is limited. Its decision to grant CNOOC exploration rights in Puntland could spark a dispute with the local authorities, which have given Range Resources exploration rights elsewhere in the province.

A western diplomat who follows Somalia from Nairobi cautioned that he had seen copies of three similar deals signed by the interim government in the past two years. "If there is ever enough peace and stability to allow oil to be extracted, there'll be a huge [argument over the agreements] down the line," he said.
(Financial Times)


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[Somalian_Boqor]

The data collected by oil companies has formed the basis of interest in Somalia today. Range Resources, an oil group listed in Sydney, estimates that the Puntland province – which includes the Mudug region – has the potential to yield 5bn-10bn barrels of oil.

Puntland is semi-autonomous and relatively stable compared with Mogadishu, where insurgents are launching near-daily assaults on the government and its Ethiopian military backers.

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Puntland is the Future of Somalia.

[Somalian_Boqor]

Quote Luq_Ganane"However with Kismayo and the Jubba region, we have one of the only places in Africa that has a exremely fertile bed, that flows into a river, and a dekad. Thats very rare. In addition Kismayo is in a much more strategic location then Bossaso as it is at the junction of Africa, Asia and the middle east"

Marehan Jubbaland ha ku faanina.

Talk about Gedo and we shall listen.

[zackabdul]

So when you people talk ill about my home you act as if yours is any better. Fock 16 years sxb.. I went to Bosaaso in 1997 and dude it was nothing, atleast nothing like it is now. We built it in 10 years and sxb we are making deals Dubai and Saudi Arabia, the business top dogs of the Middle East. You've had Kismayo for well over a decade and you still can't make use of it. Sxb look at your home and look at mine.. You are fighting because you have nothing, I am fighting for Kismayo so that I could build another beach house..

[Somalian_Boqor]

^nicely put.

The Fact of the better is Kismayo is the least under developed city in Somalia even Mogadishu is doing better. Just wait until we get our hands on it. It shall be Number one again.

[Somalian_Boqor]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUzyiLbiKEA

Enjoy the Video.

[Luq_Ganane]

Zack, and Somali Boqor. First things first. If Puntland is and has been doing good, then: Great. I'm not here to hate and put down peoples accomplishments. Lakin let me just give you some FYI. Majertens situation and Marehan's situation are 100% different. Marehan live almost 80% in the south. We're surrounded by Hawiye, Raxanwein, Garre, Ogaden etc. ALL THESE GROUPS were hostile to us and fought us over the last 17 years. In addition to that we had to fight you guys off several times. We never had sustainable peace like you guys had, to build things.The bottom line is Marehan has been fighting for 17 years for their survivial while the civil war DIDN'T EVEN REACH you guys or your degans. Now with all that said, Gedo was always very peaceful compared to the neighboring Hawiye degans, so our problem isn't the Hawiye problem of not being civilized. Its an issue of always watching our backs and fighting off people. Now as far as development goes, Majerten didn't build the roads, the port the energy power stations etc. What you guys have done is stuff like schools, hospitals etc. Real infrastructure development only occurs at the Goverment level, not the "regional" level. However the good news? I think we've finally vanquished our enemies. We broke Hawiye in the early 90's, Garre,MJ and OG have been defeated, and ironically you guys through the Xabashi have done us a favor and wiped out Hawiye. No more threats, lasting peace now so holla at us in 5 years and judge us then.

[Luq_Ganane]

In addition Somalia Boqor, don't shame your qabil even furthur and boast about what territorey they have "captured". Your Governments "True strength" was shown in Kismayo a month ago.

[Somalian_Boqor]

You backed off what made you come back and edit your stuff?

anyways kid, In Kismayo you didn't fight Government troops nor did you fight Majeerteen or kablalax for that better. Even your troops were suppose to be Government troops turn bad.

The real dowlad is in Mogdishu and the real troops are their as well.

We didn't invest in Abduallhi Yusuf and this Government for no reason.

Kismayo is our investment.

[Somalian_Boqor]

The Somali Government True strength was shown in Bay and Bakool. What you faced was some anger locals that didn't get much support for the dowlad.

But we shall seen when the Government steps in or when the Reer Puntlander come to play.

[Luq_Ganane]

O.K We shall see.

[Somalian_Boqor]

[quote="Luq_Ganane"]Zack, and Somali Boqor. First things first. If Puntland is and has been doing good, then: Great. I'm not here to hate and put down peoples accomplishments. Lakin let me just give you some FYI. Majertens situation and Marehan's situation are 100% different. Marehan live almost 80% in the south. We're surrounded by Hawiye, Raxanwein, Garre, Ogaden etc. ALL THESE GROUPS were hostile to us and fought us over the last 17 years. In addition to that we had to fight you guys off several times. We never had sustainable peace like you guys had, to build things.The bottom line is Marehan has been fighting for 17 years for their survivial while the civil war DIDN'T EVEN REACH you guys or your degans. Now with all that said, Gedo was always very peaceful compared to the neighboring Hawiye degans, so our problem isn't the Hawiye problem of not being civilized. Its an issue of always watching our backs and fighting off people. Now as far as development goes, Majerten didn't build the roads, the port the energy power stations etc. What you guys have done is stuff like schools, hospitals etc. Real infrastructure development only occurs at the Goverment level, not the "regional" level. However the good news? I think we've finally vanquished our enemies. We broke Hawiye in the early 90's, Garre,MJ and OG have been defeated, and ironically you guys through the Xabashi have done us a favor and wiped out Hawiye. No more threats, lasting peace now so holla at us in 5 years and judge us then.[/quote]


No excuses saxiib. Who do you think is keeping the Issaq from getting recognized who isn't allowing the return to Sool and Saang. British Somaliland is nowhere to be found thanks to Puntland.

Aren't the Issaq and Hawiye in Mudug hostile to us and fought us over the last 17 years?

No excuses saxiib. Puntland is the way it is because of Puntlanders and their hard work.

[Somalian_Boqor]

oo lets not forget our big foot in South Somalia.

From Puntland to South Somalia we had Power and we plan to keep it that way dare interfere.

[Luq_Ganane]

Waa hagag.