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[quote="Luq_Ganane"]If the orginizers of the Xamar shir want to go anywhere, they should get rid of the likes of Ina Caydid. He gives the shir in Asmara the look of a congregation of disgruntaled warloards. Ina Caydid should just quit Somali politics altogether and just come back to the States, or become a cab driver or something like Muse Sudi. He's trying to be like his Pops too much. [/quote]

They need him for vital information he has. He is a vital witness against the TFG's massacres & injustices.

Ina Caydiid is a bumbling fool but he brings credibility as a witness against Afbijo & co.

He has sworn to go to any court to give testimony against the war crimes of Afbiijo & Co.

LOOOL@This Shir. The only way to dislodge the TFG is by power and I don't think the Asmara rejects have the manpower to do such thing. They ain't backed from anyone. Not from the USA, AU, EU and African league. As soon as one of them come to Somalia, they will be thrown to jail to rot. I don't know what Glayd doing there. I though this was ICU shir?

[quote="Koronto91"]

They need him for vital information he has. He is a vital witness against the TFG's massacres & injustices.[/quote]

What an idealistic nitwit. Who do you think actually gives a fock about atrocities in a 3rd warlord country who has captivated world headlines since 1991 for nothing but wars and killings? What people in the world do you actually think lose sleep at night about some poor Somali fock getting blown up??? Idiots like you get on my nerves wallahi.

Unfortunately, the ICU did nothing to dispell they myths that they were a Hawiye supremicist outfit. They had a chance to unite the Somali nation, but they failed the Somali people.

Luq,

More Darood died fighting on the UIC side than Hawiye.

Unfair to call it a Hawiye organization.

[quote="DawladSade"]What an idealistic nitwit. Who do you think actually gives a fock about atrocities in a 3rd warlord country who has captivated world headlines since 1991 for nothing but wars and killings? What people in the world do you actually think lose sleep at night about some poor Somali fock getting blown up??? Idiots like you get on my nerves wallahi.[/quote]

Its about creating alliances & playing world politics, something I wouldn't expect a buffoon who worships Hiiraale to understand.

Abdiwahab your absolutely right. Infact a lot of Marehans on this site, lost very close family in Diinsoor, Idaale and the other frontline battles in and around Baydhabo. Lakin what I meant to say was the leadership was strictly Hawiye and inparticular Cayr. The 'Shura Council' of the ICU was almost all Hawiye, with no Darood representitives except for a member or two. Lakin the fighting forces of the ICU were swelled with Ogaden and Marehan soldiers just like in the Itixaad days.

[quote="Koronto91"][quote="DawladSade"]What an idealistic nitwit. Who do you think actually gives a fock about atrocities in a 3rd warlord country who has captivated world headlines since 1991 for nothing but wars and killings? What people in the world do you actually think lose sleep at night about some poor Somali fock getting blown up??? Idiots like you get on my nerves wallahi.[/quote]

Its about creating alliances & playing world politics, something I wouldn't expect a buffoon who worships Hiiraale to understand.[/quote]


How ironic. Isn't world politics what made Ethiopian tanks stroll in Mogadishu, America bombing us, and Eritrea using retarded Somalis in a regional rivalry with Ethiopia? Amazing walalhi

Luq,

Regardless of what percentage of what clan dominated the UIC. What I was most impressed was with their accomplishments, I am a witness to their achievements. To walk the streets of Mogadishu without fear of being abducted, robbed or killed and getting my father's home without any ransome was enough for me.

Luq,

There were two factions in the UIC: the Lillahi & Fakers.

The lillahi faction were not that bad and were genuine about their mission. It was the fakers that brought down the house.

These lillahi faction were beyond the qabiil thinking and saw themselves as ONE QABIIL based on shared values.

Koronto, lakin I'll go on the record as saying that the US,EU,UN etc. really don't give a damn how many thousands of Somalis are massacred. The only reason they came in '93 was beause while they didn't like Siyad Barre, they wanted to install a friendly puppet regime, lakin alhamdurialh the people in Xamar didn't have it. In any case don't except any help or sympathy from these guys bro. They know whats going on, and they don't care.

Koronto,

the ICU in Xamar did wonderful work, no question about it. They had a lot of good qualities. Also when they came to Kismayo, its not like they did any sort of large scale Xasuuq and kufsi or anything. Lakin I question their credentials of being a national movement instead of a regional (Xamar and its environs) movement.


Abdiwahab,

No question the oppritunists within the ICU wasted the efforts of the sincere members of it. The ICU really should have distanced themselves from those elements.

Luq,

The ICU were going down one way another. The worst part was that it was the opportunists who ultimately destroyed it from the inside.

Otherwise, if left alone they would have ruled all of Somalia. Hate or like them, they are the 1st political group to have a PanSomalist support since SYL.

Abdiwahab, the ICU was support by everyone when the did away with idiots who held back Mogadishu like Qaybdiid. Many Mareexaans went there in droves to fight against them and that is why the ICU was able to win so quickly, because of support from Darods like Mx and Og. You are right, ICU focked itself up when they had a good chance and now they are left hiding in the bushes and being Afeworki''s polished dolls.