WHAT IS SALAFIYAH

[_BuFF_GYAL_]

[quote="military-mind"]be ur own scholar

[/quote]

what do u mean by that?

hoortaaaa you seem like you hav issues about dawatul salafiya?.. whats ur problem?

[military-mind]

i just dont agree with ppl talkin about salafis or callin them selfs salafis in here
cos they confusin da rest who dont know alot about islam

and what i mean by be ur own scholar is.. learn arabic understand da quran and hadiths and u will be ur own scholar

cos end of da day da scholar dat u all listenin to are just humans like u and me dey can make mistakes

[toby]

ASALAMU ALYKUM

LETS NOT DEFAME THE SCHOLARS ALLAH SAID ANYONE THAT HARMS A FRIEND OF MINE IM AT WAR WITH THEM

AND THE SCHOLARS OF AHLUL SUNNAH ARE THE FRIENDS THEY ARE THE ONES WHO ARE BRINGING BACK THE SUNNAH OF THE PROPHET THEY ARE THE ONES WHO ARE CALLING THE PEOPLE TO TAWHEED WHEN MOST OF THE UMMAH IS WORSHIPING OTHER THINGS THEY ARE THE ONES WHO TELLING PEOPLE HW TO PRAY HW TO DO HAJ

AND BROTHER WILL U FORBIDE THE EVEIL AND ENJOIN THE GOOD FOR URSELF AS U WILL BECAME A SCHOLAR FOR URSELF

AND BROTHER ALL THESE SCHOLARS THEY HAVE LEARNT UNDER OTHER SCHOLARS THEY DIDNT TEACH THERE SELFS

BACKBITING THE SCHOLARS IS A BIG THING SO BROTHER FEAR ALLAH AND WATCH WAT U SAY AS U WILL BE ASKED ABT THIS ON JUDGMENT DAY

[fisabililah]

[quote="_BuFF_GYAL_"][quote="fisabililah"]may Allah Talaa keep us on the path of the salaf-us-salih.the path of the salaf which is also the path of our jamhoor (malik,hanbal,abu hanifa and shafie) the first three generations.. not the modern day scholars for dollars and their followers.[/quote]


salam br/sis

pleeeease explain to moi what you mean about 'scholars 4 dollars''!!!??? i hope u aint ridiculating the top scholars and their students of knowledge i.e shiekh uthaiymien.. shiekh bin baz.. shiekh mohammed nasiru deen al-albani RAHIMUhuLLAH ect! if so beg u take back what you said their tha ones that rectfied the suunah! and on the path of the salafusaalih and warn against ahlul bidda! ... subxanallah i heard the ridiculating comment from the speaker ''khalid yasin'' talking about the scholars of the past in that manner.. .. i mean all you hear is people that go up n down the country claiming to be on the path of the salaf and the whole aim and purpose is to spread nothing but lies and misguidness about them! subxnallah May Allah guide us let us all hold on to the rope of Allah![/quote]


waalaikuma salam sister.. firstly im a brother to clarify.

secondly i dont have any problem with the 3 scholars that you have mentioned. may Allah talaa have mercy on them all.i dont blind follow any one of them as some people seem to do, i take the good and leave that which is incorrect.

Ok so know that i have cleared up i dont have a problem with the 3 scholars you have mentioned, ill tell you who i do not accept.

i dont accept those who call to the way of murji'ah , disguised as the dawah of the salaf. they go around calling muslims khawarij, without the correct understanding. they label the mujahideen as khawarij.

they call to hizbiya and they have destroyed the jamaa'ah, like the first question they ask you is "are you salafi ?" as if to mean "are you muslim?". since when did the salaf-us-salih go around sayin this, they think they have a right to remove someone from the dawah of the salaf. they make out that the people who follow a madhab dont follow the salaf, walahi this is a lie.

A prime example is this guy, abu khadija !!

As for the "scholars for dollars" then you know what i mean !!, who are the government preachers they try and brainwash the youth. they are the individuals that protect the seats of the tawagheet the likes of madkhali etc.


and before some guy starts sayin "you hate dawatul salafiyah", i consider myself inshallah to follow the salaf. without taqleed to a madhab. the way of shiekh muhammed abdul wahab (rahimhualalh). i take from the scholars of jazeeratul arab, the likes of bakr abu zaayd, ibn jibreen, shiekh safar al hawali.

as ibn al qayim once said " take from every garden the best flower" , so i take the good and leave the batil.

As for khalid yasin saying that, then he is not the first to say such a thing.

we have been warned about this before.

Jabir Ibn ‘Abdillaah said that Allah’s Messenger (salalahu aleyhi wa salaam) said to Ka’b Ibn ‘Ujrah, “O Ka’b Ibn ‘Ujrah, I seek Allah’s protection for you from the leadership of fools. There shall be rulers, whoever enters upon them, then aids them in their oppression and validates their lies, then he is not from me nor I from him, and he shall not be admitted to the Hawd. Whoever does not enter upon them, and does not aid them in their oppression, nor validates their lies, then he is from me and I from him, and he shall be admitted to the Hawd.” (Collected by Ahmad, al-Bazzar, and Ibn Hibbaan; al-Albani authenticated it in “Sahah at-Targheeb wat-Tarheeb”, hadeeth #2243. Similar narrations are reported from an-Nu’man Ibn Basheer, ‘Abdillah Ibn Khabbab (from his father), Abee Sa’eed al-Khudree, and Ka’b Ibn ‘Ujrah; Al-Albani authenticated these other narrations in “Saha at-Targheeb wat-Tarheeb”, ahaadeeth #2243-2246

i can give you more hadeeth, and even more saying of the salaf if you need it.

This is not meant to be an attack sister, so dont take it the wrong way.

may Allah keep us all on the haq.

walaikuma salaam

[_BuFF_GYAL_]

[quote="fisabililah"][quote="_BuFF_GYAL_"][quote="fisabililah"]may Allah Talaa keep us on the path of the salaf-us-salih.the path of the salaf which is also the path of our jamhoor (malik,hanbal,abu hanifa and shafie) the first three generations.. not the modern day scholars for dollars and their followers.[/quote]


salam br/sis

pleeeease explain to moi what you mean about 'scholars 4 dollars''!!!??? i hope u aint ridiculating the top scholars and their students of knowledge i.e shiekh uthaiymien.. shiekh bin baz.. shiekh mohammed nasiru deen al-albani RAHIMUhuLLAH ect! if so beg u take back what you said their tha ones that rectfied the suunah! and on the path of the salafusaalih and warn against ahlul bidda! ... subxanallah i heard the ridiculating comment from the speaker ''khalid yasin'' talking about the scholars of the past in that manner.. .. i mean all you hear is people that go up n down the country claiming to be on the path of the salaf and the whole aim and purpose is to spread nothing but lies and misguidness about them! subxnallah May Allah guide us let us all hold on to the rope of Allah![/quote]


waalaikuma salam sister.. firstly im a brother to clarify.

secondly i dont have any problem with the 3 scholars that you have mentioned. may Allah talaa have mercy on them all.i dont blind follow any one of them as some people seem to do, i take the good and leave that which is incorrect.

Ok so know that i have cleared up i dont have a problem with the 3 scholars you have mentioned, ill tell you who i do not accept.

i dont accept those who call to the way of murji'ah , disguised as the dawah of the salaf. they go around calling muslims khawarij, without the correct understanding. they label the mujahideen as khawarij.

they call to hizbiya and they have destroyed the jamaa'ah, like the first question they ask you is "are you salafi ?" as if to mean "are you muslim?". since when did the salaf-us-salih go around sayin this, they think they have a right to remove someone from the dawah of the salaf. they make out that the people who follow a madhab dont follow the salaf, walahi this is a lie.

A prime example is this guy, abu khadija !!

As for the "scholars for dollars" then you know what i mean !!, who are the government preachers they try and brainwash the youth. they are the individuals that protect the seats of the tawagheet the likes of madkhali etc.


and before some guy starts sayin "you hate dawatul salafiyah", i consider myself inshallah to follow the salaf. without taqleed to a madhab. the way of shiekh muhammed abdul wahab (rahimhualalh). i take from the scholars of jazeeratul arab, the likes of bakr abu zaayd, ibn jibreen, shiekh safar al hawali.

as ibn al qayim once said " take from every garden the best flower" , so i take the good and leave the batil.

As for khalid yasin saying that, then he is not the first to say such a thing.

we have been warned about this before.

Jabir Ibn ‘Abdillaah said that Allah’s Messenger (salalahu aleyhi wa salaam) said to Ka’b Ibn ‘Ujrah, “O Ka’b Ibn ‘Ujrah, I seek Allah’s protection for you from the leadership of fools. There shall be rulers, whoever enters upon them, then aids them in their oppression and validates their lies, then he is not from me nor I from him, and he shall not be admitted to the Hawd. Whoever does not enter upon them, and does not aid them in their oppression, nor validates their lies, then he is from me and I from him, and he shall be admitted to the Hawd.” (Collected by Ahmad, al-Bazzar, and Ibn Hibbaan; al-Albani authenticated it in “Sahah at-Targheeb wat-Tarheeb”, hadeeth #2243. Similar narrations are reported from an-Nu’man Ibn Basheer, ‘Abdillah Ibn Khabbab (from his father), Abee Sa’eed al-Khudree, and Ka’b Ibn ‘Ujrah; Al-Albani authenticated these other narrations in “Saha at-Targheeb wat-Tarheeb”, ahaadeeth #2243-2246

i can give you more hadeeth, and even more saying of the salaf if you need it.

This is not meant to be an attack sister, so dont take it the wrong way.

may Allah keep us all on the haq.

walaikuma salaam[/quote]

wacalaykum salam
jazakallahkhair for your clarification i can understand where u are coming from .. how people can disguise themselves as if they are on the path of dawatul salafiyyaa and i totally agree with u ...
walakiin people have weaknesses as well as strengths ...
and u mention abu khadeeja as an example ..brother!!! he is one of the best da'ee around of today! like i said people spread such lies and misguideness subxanllah! and i for sure know that the da'ee abu khaadeeja does not fall in to this catergory i have been going to the talks that are held in birngimham for over 6 years now and i have alot of his talks and all i can say is mashallah alot a people just find him a threat and they tend to put him in the same boat has abu usama adahabi like i said people have weakness as well as strengths, and im carefull of listening to such speakers as i dont blindly follow just any one. and i have come across sis/bros n first they jump out with is ''are u are salafi?'' and most of the time they have a lack of understanding in this manhaj but people can be wary.

as Allah says we are commanded to command the good and forbid the evil

[_BuFF_GYAL_]

do you know what i aint going waste my breath on you ..i just clocked on to something u posted last time how u where refuting the scholars i shall say no more

let me refresh ur memory

viewtopic.php?f=63&t=119643&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=30

[military-mind]

once again u all confuserd

[toby]

asalamu alykum

brother you sound like them takfir's and they are the ones that talk abt the scholars like that so fear allah and watch wat u say

i heard abt ibn jibreen he takes from sayd qutb and he agrees with killing urself

sayd qutb may allah forgive him he said that we are all jahil(ignorance before islam) the whole ummah
and also this man neva went to jumma slata coz we are jahil and he took from marx and them socioligists and the political thinkers

most of them people that u call scholars have been refuted akhi and may allah forgive them and guide them to the rite path

[military-mind]

amiin yaa raab al calameen

but did u read what i said in the first Page?????

[toby]

asalamu alykum
i wasnt talkin abt u i was talkin abt the brother fisibillilah as i have spoken to a lot of takfir's and dey say the same thing and i even been to there talks allways sayin
the scholars for dollars

or callin agianst the ahlul sunnah scholars and they try to defame everyone that follows them

the prophet salla lahu alyhim waslam said that in every hijrah century that they will be ppl that revive the deen' nd this hijrah century is the 1400 nd the revive is shiek albani

and every scholar that is a scholar nw get a recomdation from the kibaral ulema then they became a scholar or they r just students of knowledge

[_BuFF_GYAL_]

[quote="toby"]asalamu alykum

brother you sound like them takfir's and they are the ones that talk abt the scholars like that so fear allah and watch wat u say

i heard abt ibn jibreen he takes from sayd qutb and he agrees with killing urself

sayd qutb may allah forgive him he said that we are all jahil(ignorance before islam) the whole ummah
and also this man neva went to jumma slata coz we are jahil and he took from marx and them socioligists and the political thinkers

most of them people that u call scholars have been refuted akhi and may allah forgive them and guide them to the rite path[/quote]

yeh i heard that ibn jinreen takes from the likes of sayid qutb too .. yeh sayid qutub also refuted phrophet musa calayhisalam he spoke about his character in a poor manner subxanallah.. i had a lot of problems with these people that take from sayid qutub in my islamic society n believeing in tawheed ul hakamiyaa as a separate catergory from tawheeed subxnallah! but allhamdulilah its calmed down now. we stil hav alot of other active sisters that draw other sisters to the path of the sunnah and the rightoues salaf!

[_BuFF_GYAL_]

[quote="toby"]
the prophet salla lahu alyhim waslam said that in every hijrah century that they will be ppl that revive the deen' nd this hijrah century is the 1400 nd the revive is shiek albani

and every scholar that is a scholar nw get a recomdation from the kibaral ulema then they became a scholar or they r just students of knowledge[/quote]


yep all the scholars agreed that it was shiekh al-albani rahimuhullah in our century!