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Re: Nur Ibn Mujahid, The Marehan Emir of Harar

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^ and who might you be?

Since when did discussing history become something wrong? you do know that without Axmed Gurey and his successor Emir Nur there would be no such thing as a country called Somalia right?

The leaders being discussed here were fighting for something greater than themselves when your forefathers were running around naked.
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Re: Nur Ibn Mujahid, The Marehan Emir of Harar

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Empty barrel makes the most noise.........thats rear marexaan the most insecure qabil ever.
After listening to these marexaan kid's bullshid, you understand why they are at the bottom of somalia.
If marexaan are so great like you lot are saying, why is it you dont have your own puntland or somaliland.
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SNM_Kiddo

Adeer, meesha odayaal baa isugu yimide isaga carar.
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Ahmed Guray was your clan? that is news to me wallee.

Without Allah there wouldnt' be somalia. I don't believe that some poor nomadic sheep herders saved the day for us. Laughing
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Yet another one of those 'sade's',

Sxb. If those men fought for something greater, then where the heck is it?

I am yet to see a great country. Hundreds of years later, gues what? somalia is lagging behind most of the countries in the world. Somalia is currently being occupied and nothing good has been gained. So where is that great thing you speak of?
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[quote="Somalistan"]Ahmed Guray was your clan? that is news to me wallee.

Without Allah there wouldnt' be somalia. I don't believe that some poor nomadic sheep herders saved the day for us. Laughing[/quote]

I don't blame you, theres still alot you don't know about the country you call home. Waa run Illaah baa noo ogalaaday inaan dal noqono, laakinse Alle ummad walba cid buu usoo diraa, in this case Axmed Gurey was the first Somali leader to fight for greater somalia. He was followed by his nephew Emir Nur, then the Great Sayid came and last but not least the father of modern Somalia Maj. Gen. Pres M.S. Barre.

P.s. Somalia is a great a country but its people aren't deserving of it.
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Re: Nur Ibn Mujahid, The Marehan Emir of Harar

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I like how you shove him in there, the so call Amir of Harar along with others.

Ahmed Gurey: Some say he was Oromo and some say he was somali and even say he was an Arab. HOwever I never heard anyone say, bef4 you that he was a Merehan.

The mad mullah: He did more damage to somalis. He killed his own kinsmen and people. He didn't accomplish anything. He created hostilities so when he left big mess and so clan fueds followed to this day.

Siad Barre: Was a good leader with help of other somalis from early 70-later of that decade. But when he pulled out the clan card, he was exposed and his clan couldn't not save him. So we can say, any good that came during his time of regime, it was due to the support of other somalis. Without them, he bit the dust.
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A research Coup is what it is. up
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Somalistan, unsubstantiated statements remain unsubstantiated.


Kids, keep this discussion clean, fadlan.
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lol@kids,

Trying to belittle others just to look like the smart one. Good one indeed. Cool

Warsame,

You guys can't prove james Dahl wrong. He just provided the fact that Ahmed which was nicknmaed Gurey by somalis wasn't even a somalis. What do you have to say about that?
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Re: Nur Ibn Mujahid, The Marehan Emir of Harar

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Ok lets say Nur ibn Mujahid was a Marehan, why dont you take him as a example instead of supporting traitors like Hiiraale? Confused
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Re: Nur Ibn Mujahid, The Marehan Emir of Harar

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[quote="Warsame101"]This piece of biography was written by the renowned anthropologist Harvel Sebastian in the acclaimed Dictionary of African historical biography (Vol. 1)

Print Copy of the Biography:
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u111 ... ujahid.jpg


Nur ibn Mujahid ibn ‘Ali ibn ‘Abdullah al Dhuhi Suha (literally ‘the morning star’), of the Ahl Suhawyan clan of the Somali tribe of Marehan, Darod group, was a notable Emir of Harar in the 16th century. Marrying the Widow of Ahmad Ibn Ibrahim (q.v.), or Gran, he also succeeded him as leader of the Muslim forces of fighting Christian Ethiopia.

Considered the patron saint of Harar, he was called the Sahib al-Fath at-Thani, or Master of the Second Conquest. When Ahmed ibn Ibrahim, the leader of the Muslim expansion into Ethiopia which began in 1527, was killed in 1543, the Muslim forces fell back in confusion upon Harar. Nur, the dead leader’s sister’s son, married Gran’s firebrand widow, Bati del Wanbara (q.v.), and undertook to renew the fortunes of the Muslim city, which had been sacked in 1550. Named Emir in about 1550-51, he spent the next two years reorganizing his forces, and construction the wall which still surrounds the city.

In 1554-55, Nur departed on a Jihad, or Holy War, in the eastern Ethiopian lowlands of Charchar, Arusi, and Hadeya. In 1559, he invaded Fatajar, where he fought against the Ethiopian emperor Galawdewos (q.v.) [reigned 1540-59], and killed him. Nur kept fighting for 12 years untill, according to legend, at Gibe he said “Kaffa!”, or “Enough!”, and returned to Harar. The province is called Kaffa to this day.

During Nur’s absence, Harar witnessed internal power struggles, and the unlucky city was disturbed by encroaching Galla tribes (i.e. Oromo tribes). By 1567, repeated Galla raids had brought famine to the city. Nur left the city in 1568 for a punitive raid against the Galla. On his return he found a plague raging in Harar, and he himself died of typhus.

Contemporaries described Nur as a man of noble conduct, who was just, strong, and highly principled. He was noted for the buildings he erected in Harar, and for protecting its inhabitants from invaders. His tomb stands on a hill surrounded by houses and courtyards, and is popular place of pilgrimage in Harar.

Bibliography:

1. R.Basset (editor, Histoire de la conquete de l’Abyssinie (“History of the Conquest of Abyssinia”), Paris, 1897-1901;

2. Dr. E. Cerulli, “Documenti arabi per la storia dell’Ethiopia,” Memoria della Accademia Nazionale dei Lincei, Vol. 4, No. 2, Rome, 1931

3. Dr. E. Cerulli, La lingua e la storia di Harar (“The Language and History of Harar”), Rome, 1936

4. Dr. E. Cerulli, “Gli Emiri di Harar dal secolo XVI alla conquista agiziana” (“The Mirs of Harar From the 16th Century to the Egyptian Conquest”),

5. Dr. E. Cerulli, Rassegna di Studi Ethiopici, Vol. 2, Rome, 1942

6. Hadj Yusuf AbdulRahman (editor), Kitab Rabi’a al-Qulub fi Dhikr Manaqib wa Fada’il Sayyidina as Sheikh Nur Hussein (“The Springtime of Hearts in Memory of the Virtues and Merits of Our Lord the Sheikh Nur Hussein”), Cairo, 1927

7. J. Spencer Trimingham, Islam in Ethiopia, London, 1952

8. K. Wndt, “Amharische Geschichte eines Emirs von Harar in XVI Jahrhundert,” (“An Ahmhari History of One of the Emirs of 16th Century of Harar”), Orientalia, Vol. 6, No. ¾, Rome, 1937


http://marehansade.blogspot.com/2007/09 ... harar.html[/quote]


interesting laakin merehan yaa geeyey harar mise asalhan meeshaas bey ka so jeedan???
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Re: Nur Ibn Mujahid, The Marehan Emir of Harar

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Hiiraan, dagaal yahanku hal ma isagaa dego. Mareexaane ma qoys afar xabo la eg baa? Maanta Mareexaanku Reer Bicidyahan bay kula dagaalaan Wardheere iyo Walwal agteeda, Shiiqaalne Jilib, Garre iyo qolooyin kalena NFD baan isku haysanaa.

Sidaa u fahan.
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[quote="DawladSade"]Hiiraan, dagaal yahanku hal ma isagaa dego. Mareexaane ma qoys afar xabo la eg baa? Maanta Mareexaanku Reer Bicidyahan bay kula dagaalaan Wardheere iyo Walwal agteeda, Shiiqaalne Jilib, Garre iyo qolooyin kalena NFD baan isku haysanaa.

Sidaa u fahan.[/quote]


dee adiga ma i fahmin. i asked asal ahaan are merehan from waqooyi east mise woqooyi west dhinaca harar???


tan kale do u have photo of emirkaan???
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Re: Nur Ibn Mujahid, The Marehan Emir of Harar

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[quote="Hiiraan boy"] do u have photo of emirkaan???[/quote]

Inalilaahi wa inaa ileeyhi raajucuun, such sheer ignorance!

do you know the time-frame we're discussing here? Have you read anything that has been posted on here partaining to the great Amir and the time that he lived?

Kanoo miiran waaye waxaan meesha kula sheekeeysanee ogaada dadoow.
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