MAREHAN WERE THE RULERS OF HARRAR AND THE

[DawladSade]

[quote="James Dahl"]I'm the one just looking for attention? [/quote]


Why are you lapping after me like a thirsty dog?

[biko]

no, i was taken aback by opening your topic about the greatness of Mareexan and then saying its also somali history. if i didnt know better i would think Marexaanimo is comes first before somalinimo.

but what would i know about somali savage mentality.

[DawladSade]

This is just for Somali circles, where haters have abounded but in reality we all come under the great Somali History and infact such competition like this to finding history is beneficial to overall Somali History. I am also going to show this to couple Oromos who disputed Somalis ever ruling Harar.

[guhad122]

There are many versions of the history with different accounts on the clan of Ahmed Gurey. I have seen Bartire of Absame, Mareexaan, and of course Arab. But let us put aside his clan for a second and ask ourselves a question? What do you think he would have done today knowing that Highlanders are occupying our land?

Ilka-Yar cheerleaders need to understand that Axmed Gurey wouldn't have associated with Dabadhilifs like Huuraale if he were alive today. He would have taken part the struggle to reliberate Somalia from the Highlanders.

[King-of-Awdal]

[DawladSade]

Guhad, somehow I knew you would join us.

[James Dahl]

[quote="DawladSade"][quote="James Dahl"]I'm the one just looking for attention? [/quote]

Why are you lapping after me like a thirsty dog?[/quote]

Claiming a heroic figure like Ahmed Gure to be Somali is one thing, but claiming him to be Marehan? I'm not going to let you get away with that one so easily.

And by the way, Ahmed Gurey was a hero of Adal, but he didn't actually live in Harar or Zeila, he ruled the towns of Hubat and Za'ka, well outside Somali territory.

[Luq_Ganane]

Gudhad,

Before a national struggle you must have unity. The very sad fact is Tigray inflicted MUCH less crimes on Somalis then Somalis did themselves. The distrust and cuqdad is at a all time high. In being totally honest, the average Marehan probably doesn't care if a million Hawiye are killed, or the average Hawiye wouldn't care if one million Darood are killed and so on and so forth. Now how is a society fragmented to this degree gonna rise up against a nation of 70 million?

[DawladSade]

James,

Since the time you came here, you have been making claims without ONE single proof. Couple times I have set you in your place and you called me a jerk. You claim to not be a Somali, so seeming as if you had centuries of oral history told to you as a young kid is out of the question. Kindly shoo away, you are not worthy debating time anymore. Until you can bring research and show where you got it from, don't ever address me. The door is that way vagrant


A Canadian spends 24/7 of his life in a third rate Somali forum and knows the sub-clans of Raxanweyn even with perfect Somali spelling and what cities and towns Ahmed Gurey ruled.

[Somali_4Life]

The noble one(Muhammad pbuh) kicked the wicked(Abdullah ibn Ubai al salul)out of Medina.
In the same way: The noble one(Aideed rahimullah)kicked the wicked one(siyad barre)out of Xamar.

[Warsame101]

KingofAwdal, you have this naive outlook on what is considered history and confuse it with your own perceptions and thoughts. You act like you are the only one in possession of the Futush al-Habasha sxb

First thing first, Futuh al-Habasha does not mention the Imam's ethnicity for reasons unknown, but through subsequent research, one can deduct his ethnicity and the ethnicity of his successor.

Secondly, where on earth do you get this ridiclous notion that every Somali or Mareexaan living in Harar would have some Samaroon or Ciise connection? Samaroon and Ciise didn't participate in the Conguest of Ethiopia which automatically leads to the conclusion that Samaroon or Ciise did not live there in abundance or they migrated from nearbouring regions after the demolishment of the Sultanates. Similiary, there was not a single Mareexaan or Somali in Jubbaland 500 years ago.

I.M Lewis mentions:
"..but there is apparently no mention of the Ciise or Gadabuursi or for that matter of the other main Isaaq division, the Habar Tol Ja'lo"

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James Dahl, get out here sxb

[King-of-Awdal]

Luq u just proofed what i have been saying all this time. the only option for somalia is for each to go his seperate way because the point of return has been passed.


As for those who honestly praise Siyaad and Aidid and worship em. get a life and let the death be judged by allah, and dont expect everyone to agree with u.

[James Dahl]

Read page 8 of Futuh al-Habasa

[Luq_Ganane]

Awdal,

I guess you and I are the only realistic thinkers here. Everybody else is thinking in the clouds. Whether you love it or hate it, the future of Somalia is: The Federal Republic Of Ethiopia. Lets just hope we at least get a lot of parliment seats in that union.

[King-of-Awdal]

Warsame just by saying samaroon and Essa didnt particpate in the war of Abyssinia just shows how ignorant u are. so no need to argue with u further as i have proof of graves and town's that were destroyed and just to give ya one Hint one such village has given the name Amoud to a famous university. as for us not living in awdal and the ethopian highlands dont make a fool of urself we arent nomads unlike some. we have stuck to our region and land and that has truly saved us from the savegery that is where u come from.