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Re: Pipe-dream federal somalia - 9 states
Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 10:17 pm
by AbdiWahab252
UB,
Another Darood conspiracy artist.
Re: Pipe-dream federal somalia - 9 states
Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 10:22 pm
by Unclebin-
LOOOL at a darood conspiracy artist.
Let me guess
Galkacyo according to the map he present is in Green (Hawiye)
So are The Abudwaaq district
-Ceelwaaq is Hawiye
bardheere is eelaaye
- Hawiye live in Bari
-baraawe is a "HIRAB" TOWN

Inna lillaahi wa innaillahi rajicuun...
Half of Somali Galbeed land is Hawiye
-Bantus control Bander Beyla
-Half of the OGaden NFD has miraculously been obsorbed by Hawiye...
That map makes it look like hawiye are everywhere and what really makes me laugh is that the guy who authored it is a hawiye from the 1999 habar Gidr expansionist days. Now they have all been forced to squatter status in Dhuusamareeb

Re: Pipe-dream federal somalia - 9 states
Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 10:25 pm
by AbdiWahab252
UncleBin,
1/3 of Somali Galbeed is Hawiye:
Degodiye, Xaskuul hawiye, Ajuuran, Xawadle, Badicaade, Murusade
Ceelwaq = Garre & Degodiye
Re: Pipe-dream federal somalia - 9 states
Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 10:27 pm
by Unclebin-
LOOOOL Ceelwaaaq = Garre and whatever. The marehan kicked the little Boon out 2 years ago.
1/3 of Somali galbeed?
What major towns and city do hawiye live in?
Living in a dream world.
Re: Pipe-dream federal somalia - 9 states
Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 11:06 pm
by James Dahl
That conspiracy theory is simply bizarre
As to "Galmudug" it is not meant to be Habir Gidir land, but rather the territory of clans with the longest relationship together. Each one has their own region in Galmudug, so there's autonomy-within-autonomy.
Marehan and Ceyr have worked together well in the past.
This map is as much about historical connections than lineages.
Re: Pipe-dream federal somalia - 9 states
Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 11:11 pm
by Unclebin-
[quote="James Dahl"]That conspiracy theory is simply bizarre
As to "Galmudug" it is not meant to be Habir Gidir land, but rather the territory of clans with the longest relationship together. Each one has their own region in Galmudug, so there's autonomy-within-autonomy.
Marehan and Ceyr have worked together well in the past.
This map is as much about historical connections than lineages.[/quote]
Yeah sure..... You've based portions of town based on Clan kinship and historicalness on others.... IRIR Foqal IRIR

Re: Pipe-dream federal somalia - 9 states
Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 11:14 pm
by James Dahl
[quote="Unclebin-"][quote="James Dahl"]That conspiracy theory is simply bizarre
As to "Galmudug" it is not meant to be Habir Gidir land, but rather the territory of clans with the longest relationship together. Each one has their own region in Galmudug, so there's autonomy-within-autonomy.
Marehan and Ceyr have worked together well in the past.
This map is as much about historical connections than lineages.[/quote]
Yeah sure..... You've based portions of town based on Clan kinship and historicalness on others.... IRIR Foqal IRIR

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You're nuts, man. I'm sure this all makes sense in your head, but you lost me on this theory a while back.
Re: Pipe-dream federal somalia - 9 states
Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 11:17 pm
by Unclebin-
[quote="James Dahl"][quote="Unclebin-"][quote="James Dahl"]That conspiracy theory is simply bizarre
As to "Galmudug" it is not meant to be Habir Gidir land, but rather the territory of clans with the longest relationship together. Each one has their own region in Galmudug, so there's autonomy-within-autonomy.
Marehan and Ceyr have worked together well in the past.
This map is as much about historical connections than lineages.[/quote]
Yeah sure..... You've based portions of town based on Clan kinship and historicalness on others.... IRIR Foqal IRIR

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You're nuts, man. I'm sure this all makes sense in your head, but you lost me on this theory a while back.[/quote]
No I am not nuts.
Galkacyo is governed by Puntland in the same fashion as eirgavo is by it's counterpart. But you conveniently Left such parts out in your logic. Cause if you were to create a border based on clan maps then why haven't you shown the truth of the matter.... You know that hawiye have no say in Galkacyo or Southern Goldogob but you wouldn't include that....but it is a part of galmudug which has Abgaal, Leelkase, Marehan Habar Gidr and Murusade all in one state eh?

Hutu foqal Hutu
Re: Pipe-dream federal somalia - 9 states
Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 11:45 pm
by Twisted_Logic
[quote="Unclebin-"]This guy makes North Mudug look tiny...
Gives Galmudug Leelkase and Marehan land and even Abgaal Waceeysle in Xaradheere and Wacbuudhaan and Waceysle of Ceeldheer to Galmudug.

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LOL LOL. very funny map, I agree
Re: Pipe-dream federal somalia - 9 states
Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 11:45 pm
by Twisted_Logic
[quote="Unclebin-"]This guy makes North Mudug look tiny...
Gives Galmudug Leelkase and Marehan land and even Abgaal Waceeysle in Xaradheere and Wacbuudhaan and Waceysle of Ceeldheer to Galmudug.

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LOL LOL. very funny map, I agree
Re: Pipe-dream federal somalia - 9 states
Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 11:46 pm
by Twisted_Logic
[quote="AbdiWahab252"]UB,
North Mudug in reality is small. Not more than 15% of the original Mudug.
James,
The Abgaal, Murusade, and Sheikhal of Mudug are down with Galmudug with the few Marexan of Mudug keen to join.[/quote]
I dont think Abgaal will join something called Galmudug. Lol. look at the name GalMudug!
However, i dont mind Hawiye coming together and respecting one another and living in peace with each other. Hate Aideed for forcing brothers to take guns against one another, made animosty among people who never fought one another before. such is his legacy
Re: Pipe-dream federal somalia - 9 states
Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 12:54 am
by BABYGIRL123
uncle loool thats what i was thinking.
Re: Pipe-dream federal somalia - 9 states
Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 1:36 am
by xoogSADE14
So Caabudwaaq, Balanbale, Dhabad, Gelinsoor, Laasacaanood, and all the other smaller Mareexaan towns in central somalia are in "Galmudug". Where as Pretty much all of Jubbaland is either Hawiye/ Digil Mirifle lands.
Do you think creating fantasy maps in your living room will change the reality back home?
Re: Pipe-dream federal somalia - 9 states
Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:09 am
by Fale
I'm laughing at the dude who created this map..I guess This is his way of creating just like the "fantasy Football league" were crazy American Football fanatics create their own league and draft/select any player to their teams from the NFL....It's only for Day-dreaming.
Re: Pipe-dream federal somalia - 9 states
Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 5:14 am
by Warsame101
I think James Dahl is Gamadid, the covert Hawiye supremacist.