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the PPP represents everything that is wrong with Pakistan..

its still a Fuedal country with a veneer of modernity...

The only thing keeping pakistan alive and in the modern world is the Army.


200 families , own everything and run the country..

the PPP is the priavate estate of the Bhuttos and thier supporters are thier loyal peasants.


Pakistan need a revolution badly...

Right now i feel like imran khan is the only hope for sane leadership in pakistan The man is Amazing.

Technically, he is not making any decisions for now, atleast not until he is done at Oxford. I think its unhealthy decision for the political future of Pakistan, the country dierly need a new direction.

Oh well another pending dead Bhutto! He will die just like his mother and his grandfather! Aint Nepotism sweet? LOL

[quote="gurey25"]the PPP represents everything that is wrong with Pakistan..

its still a Fuedal country with a veneer of modernity...
The only thing keeping pakistan alive and in the modern world is the Army.
200 families , own everything and run the country..
the PPP is the priavate estate of the Bhuttos and thier supporters are thier loyal peasants.
Pakistan need a revolution badly...[/quote]



Ain't that the truth! Most anything working in Pakistan is the result of the professional military keeping in check a few aristocratic elites.

Even names like Chaudhary mean 'landowner'

Democracy or not, Musharraf is doing the best job for Pakistan internally.

Musharaff says he is Doing his best to get rid of Extremist and militants but why is it that when he came in power They have been more Militants and Extremists than before.

[quote="COSTA"]Another Shia he will be killed just like his mother and his grandfather
no shia will ever lead Sunni dominated country[/quote]

The founder of Pakistan Jinnah was a shia, Ayub Khan president of Pakistan was a Shia and Bhutto Sr who led Pakistan was also a Shia. Not sure if Musharraf is a Shia though. So there goes you assumptions!

[quote="garowegal"]if the PPP wants to redeem themselves they need to Have Fatima bhutto as their opposition leader.[/quote]

She is not Benazir's daughter, in fact she was a big critic of hers and also many believe that fatima's dad was killed by Benazir. There is a history of conflicts and bloodshed within the Bhutto family.

[quote="garowegal"]Right now i feel like imran khan is the only hope for sane leadership in pakistan The man is Amazing.[/quote]

True. Agreed 100%

[quote="garowegal"]Musharaff says he is Doing his best to get rid of Extremist and militants but why is it that when he came in power They have been more Militants and Extremists than before.[/quote]

Because of 9/11. also, the Taliban have found a save haven in the tribal belt. Musharraf and the ISI also dont want to dismantle the socalled "terror networks" just yet. They are in for the economic gain and also military support. It is believed that the ISI is hell-bent of making America collapse like the way they did to the ruskies decades ago. Also, ISI agents are all over Afghanistan playing a double game. For more info let me know and i would be glad to share it with you. the reason bhutto was brought back was to dismantle the ISI and turn it into a pro-western element. I am 100% certain that Bhutto was killed by the ISI!

Twisted, Bhuto foretold of the extremis elements in the government of Pakistan whom she she said was very powerful and poised to take over the country possibly in the future. She also sent an e-mail to one of her elite political supporters in New York saying that if anyone targets her, Musharaf should be held responsible. She predicted her demise.

[quote="Somali2003"]Twisted, Bhuto foretold of the extremis elements in the government of Pakistan whom she she said was very powerful and poised to take over the country possibly in the future. She also sent an e-mail to one of her elite political supporters in New York saying that if anyone targets her, Musharaf should be held responsible. She predicted her demise.[/quote]

I know that. But the fact is that the so-called "extremist elements" in Pakisan have always been the "hidden hand" of the Pakisttani government! The ISI is the thread that holds together the fabric of the Pakistani society. She has twice been dismissed from power not through elections but because the ISI manipulated the system and the president into dismissing her government. It is a known fact, that this woman was hell-bent on dismantling the ISI, Pakistani Nukes and handing the Pakistani Nuke scientists over to the West. Her plans were very henious to say the least and whoever took her down did a wonderful job. Once again, the ISI comes to the rescue!

I never thought she had hidden motive to dismantle the Pakistani Nukes on her becoming the president of Pakistan. Is that conspiracy or fact?

[quote="Somali2003"]I never thought she had hidden motive to dismantle the Pakistani Nukes on her becoming the president of Pakistan. Is that conspiracy or fact?[/quote]

It is a fact. she said in an interview that once Prime Minister she would give Nato access to the Pakistani nukes and you know what that means. I will dig ou he news item and post it here in few mins.

"It is a known fact, that this woman was hell-bent on dismantling the ISI, Pakistani Nukes and handing the Pakistani Nuke scientists over to the West."

What would she gain from that?