Viva "Wahabia": Special Thread For Cilmiile!

[Adan*5]

[quote="AbdiWahab252"]Koronto:

Your Akhwaan are child molesters who marry young women not with a desire to have them as wives for a long time but to have "halal one night stands". Their intent is cruel and disgusting.


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AW
You are confusing it with the Shias Iran,.there are no such things in somalia.stop the cheap propaganda.

Why are you not talking about the notorious suufis sects in Gaalkacyo that takes away the young girls from their parents to the forests for mystical ceremonies and supicious practices,and when the parents refuse that ,they are threatened withh curse.

We all know what Suufis and Akwaan stand for in somalia very well.

[Cawar]

"The true form of Islam as prescribed by our noble Prophet Muhammad Ibn Abdullah Ibn Muttalib (saw) is here to stay, insha Allah and no amount of ass licking or name callings will ever change it."

K,

I am not into sufism or any other sect..but the above quote is exactly whats wrong with the so clled wahabism...and that name calling and distinguishing among even sunni muslims..not to mention the killings..were not part of the prophets teachings.

Whats the true form of islam?? name calling?? saying that someone who is muslim is actually a kaafir and he deserves to be killed??

[FAH1223]

there is no such thing as Wahabbism

there is only Islam

Muhammad Abdul Wahab helped teach the true teachings in light of Qur'an and Sunnah

if anything, blame the Saudis for some of the laws they make...but at the same time, they way we worship with no idols or intercession is how it should be...

[Cilmiile]

Koronto

It is very interesting that you included Boqolsoon as one of your righteous Wahaabi preachers. I listened to his cassette on Salaadda. In it he says that anyone who fails to pray five times is an infidel and an apostate. He should be attacked and his possessions looted, his wife divorced from him.

Is this reasonable? Is this sane?

If Wahaabi thugs like the ICU take over and I refuse to pray, is this the fate that awaits me?

Is this right? Is it just?

[Koronto91]

Sufism is what hindered the progress of Islam in Muslim countries. Sufi "Sheikhs" by tradition are lap dogs of Muslim regimes; they work under their supervision, often times bless such brutal dictatorships and are always silent when it comes to social issues.

AW,

Your support for Sufi "Sheikhs" is understandable, since these men were the same ones who used to bless USC technicals as they prepared for battle. These 'Sheikhs' would recite Qur'an and spill some tahliil on the mooryaan & their vehicles, then tell them that they were true Mujaahideen.

Cilmiile,

Your love for this fictitious sect simply arises from the fact that they represent your version of a white-washed Islam; in which alcholism, secularism and all Western ideologies are accepted and praised. Also, because of the fact that Sufi "Sheikhs" are in bed with the TFG and the Ethiopians, while the really sincere Sheikhs aren't afraid to speak their mind, these "Sheikhs" are only busy with getting paid. Whoever pays them has their allegiance and thats how it has always been.

[xoogSADE14]

Cakuye gaardheereyaal iyo fudeeydkooda. Waryaada live and let live. Why does everyone have to conform to your exact interpretations?

[Cilmiile]

Koronto

care to comment on post immediateliy preceding your last one? Regarding Boqolsoon.

[FAH1223]

[quote="xoogSADE14"]Cakuye gaardheereyaal iyo fudeeydkooda. Waryaada live and let live. Why does everyone have to conform to your exact interpretations?[/quote]

he is saying what they do in their practices is shirk

and he is right

you dont pray to anyone other than allah, you dont try to perform magic or shid...thats haram...

this isn't about killing someone if they dont pray, thats between a person and Allah....its about avoiding SHIRK...something that was widespread

if you go away from Tawhid, then you go against the basic element of Islam

[FAH1223]

[quote="Cilmiile"]Koronto

It is very interesting that you included Boqolsoon as one of your righteous Wahaabi preachers. I listened to his cassette on Salaadda. In it he says that anyone who fails to pray five times is an infidel and an apostate. He should be attacked and his possessions looted, his wife divorced from him.

Is this reasonable? Is this sane?

If Wahaabi thugs like the ICU take over and I refuse to pray, is this the fate that awaits me?

Is this right? Is it just?[/quote]

if you dont pray, you have no connection to Allah SWT, period

it doesnt take a genius to figure that out

but people cant be vigilantes, thats the problem with Muslims....you cant go on the streets and kill someone for w/e reason

[Shirib]

[quote="Cilmiile"]Koronto

It is very interesting that you included Boqolsoon as one of your righteous Wahaabi preachers. I listened to his cassette on Salaadda. In it he says that anyone who fails to pray five times is an infidel and an apostate. He should be attacked and his possessions looted, his wife divorced from him.

Is this reasonable? Is this sane?

If Wahaabi thugs like the ICU take over and I refuse to pray, is this the fate that awaits me?

Is this right? Is it just?[/quote]

After the 98 world cup I remember reading an article and Zenedine Zidane said he was a non practicing Muslim. I grew angry with that comment and said what the hell is Zidane talking about, whats a non practicing Muslim.

Then I looked around and realized Zidane was only telling the truth. How many non practicing Muslims are there. There a lot but just don't call themselves that. A Muslim who does not pray is a NON PRACTICING MUSLIM.

Thats the truth folks, Zidane just told it like it was.

[FAH1223]

To be a Muslim, you have to PRACTICE

there is a difference between IMAN....and ISLAM...

[Koronto91]

Cilmiile,

Sh. Boqolsoon was talking about neglecting Salat and quoted this hadeeth:

[Between a man and shirk and kufr there stands his neglect of the prayer.] (Narrated by Muslim in Kitaab al-Eemaan)

He did not say such a person's properties or life are to be taken, I heard the same tape, stop your pathetic lies. Such a man can not remain married to a beliefing woman, because of the verse that says a beliefing woman can not marry or remain married to an infidel.

Source: http://www.islamqa.com/index.php?ref=52 ... &txt=salat

[Cilmiile]

No he didnt. He used a Koranic verse to justify his brutal prescription while employing great casuistry and poor reasoning

I will listen to the cassete again and write out his oration. It was really quite disgusting the way he twisted the Quraan.

[Koronto91]

Here's another hadeeth that shows neglecting salat=apostasy.

[The covenant that distinguishes between us and them is the prayer, and whoever neglects it has disbelieved (become a kaafir).]

[AbdiWahab252]

[quote="Koronto91"]
AW,

Your support for Sufi "Sheikhs" is understandable, since these men were the same ones who used to bless USC technicals as they prepared for battle. These 'Sheikhs' would recite Qur'an and spill some tahliil on the mooryaan & their vehicles, then tell them that they were true Mujaahideen.[/quote]

Koronto:

What about those Akhwans who emptied out the schools and orphanages to take the students to the frontline to meet certain death ? The Akhwans issued "Heavenly Diplomas" that they gave to the poorly trained child soldiers that they said guaranteed them entrance into heaven.