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Re: Fircoon 'Pharo' was a somali

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:01 pm
by Shirib
[quote="The_Emperior5"]how can firconn be a somali if the holl somali history startet after islam

faroas where around 4000 years ago

come one guys

we dont need to claim everthing

next thin we would say they ceacer was somali[/quote]

Somalia's history didn't start after Islam

Re: Fircoon 'Pharo' was a somali

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:06 pm
by The_Emperior5
tell me somali history before islam ball ii sheeg any sultante kingdom what ever ma sheegii kartiid

and dont come digil iyo xururfle ayaa taarikh leh

Re: Fircoon 'Pharo' was a somali

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:08 pm
by The_Emperior5
ps shiribi u can say somali history but u cant say somalia history there was no somalia 1500 years ago

Re: Fircoon 'Pharo' was a somali

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:09 pm
by LiquidHYDROGEN
Emperior, we are somali not arab. Ancient egyptians used to revere us and wey nugu abtirsanjireen. I have always considered myself somali-isaaq. My ancestor may have been Isaaq, a great arab sheekh, but somalis didnt just pop up out of the earth. anyway arabs are useless. Maxey noo tareen?

Ghetto, nice read, thanks.

Shirib, dont hate walaal, its not becoming.

Re: Fircoon 'Pharo' was a somali

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:11 pm
by Shirib
[quote="The_Emperior5"]ps shiribi u can say somali history but u cant say somalia history there was no somalia 1500 years ago[/quote]

In that case Somalia history began on July 1, 1960. But Somali's had history before that, we didn't write so not much is left behind

Re: Fircoon 'Pharo' was a somali

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:11 pm
by Shirib
[quote="abdi.ismail"]Shirib, dont hate walaal, its not becoming.[/quote]

Huh, I don't understand

Re: Fircoon 'Pharo' was a somali

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:20 pm
by Twisted_Logic

Re: Fircoon 'Pharo' was a somali

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:43 pm
by gurey25
Fircoon was a title not the name of a person

in the quran the fircoon(pharao) is the ruler of egypt just like qiysar(Ceaser) is the ruler of Rome
and qisraa(khusrau) ruler of Persia.

actually Khusrau is not a title the arabs named every persian shah of the sassanian dynasty qisraa after the most famous shah of persia, Khusrau Parviz Anushirwan.


now depending on names is not advisable,
allot of words and names sound similiar to each even if they have nothing to do with each other.

im pretty sure we can find some words from bihari or even kalmyk in siberia that are similiar to somali but we all know how far they are from each other.


now Somali and ancient egyptian are both in the same afro-asiatic language alonf with arabic
and it may even be possible that both evolved in the same upper nile region,
but thats about it.

Re: Fircoon 'Pharo' was a somali

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:46 pm
by Twisted_Logic
[quote="gurey25"]Fircoon was a title not the name of a person

in the quran the fircoon(pharao) is the ruler of egypt just like qiysar(Ceaser) is the ruler of Rome
and qisraa(khusrau) ruler of Persia.

actually Khusrau is not a title the arabs named every persian shah of the sassanian dynasty qisraa after the most famous shah of persia, Khusrau Parviz Anushirwan.


now depending on names is not advisable,
allot of words and names sound similiar to each even if they have nothing to do with each other.

im pretty sure we can find some words from bihari or even kalmyk in siberia that are similiar to somali but we all know how far they are from each other.


now Somali and ancient egyptian are both in the same afro-asiatic language alonf with arabic
and it may even be possible that both evolved in the same upper nile region,
but thats about it.[/quote]

You don't even make sense. The pharoahs used to claim to be from Somalia. In the pyramids they have statues of Somali kings. When the Egyptian queen came to Somalia, the first question they asked her was " why have you and your ancestors forsaken your people,?" Who are you to deny such a well-documented history?

Re: Fircoon 'Pharo' was a somali

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 3:46 pm
by gurey25
if you are talking about queen hatshetputs journey,
nothing is proven yet, its still sketchy..


the year is around 5000 BC

somalis did not exist, we only branched off from the rest of the cushtic family around 1500BC
and we branched off from the southern cushtic family tree later than that.

till 500 BC there probably was no seperation between somali and borana for example.

and all the clans go back to 600-700 AD even the one the oldest DIR did not exist before then.



but about Egyptians it might be true
who knows it might be possible that the ancesters of the egyptians came from the ethiopian highlands just the like cushites and around the once fertile Sahara grasslands.
the Sahara was a grassland like central asia till it started turning into a desert after 7000BC.
My guess is that all the different racial and ethnic groups had to migrate after water and game
started to decrease.

The choice was to go back up the highlands into Ethiopia or go up the nile valley and all the migrating groups had to fight for resources and land and allot of mixing happened along the way.

Re: Fircoon 'Pharo' was a somali

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 3:48 pm
by neocon_2007
Fircoon hails from the Maakhirites, just as his successors great rulers!

Re: Fircoon 'Pharo' was a somali

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 3:48 pm
by xaseey
fircoon was Oday Gaaljecel

Re: Fircoon 'Pharo' was a somali

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 3:50 pm
by gurey25
fircoon is not a name but a title.


the fircoon in the quraan is probably tuthmose and not the popularly believed ramses the sencond.

Re: Fircoon 'Pharo' was a somali

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 3:51 pm
by Twisted_Logic
[quote="gurey25"]if you are talking about queen hatshetputs journey,
nothing is proven yet, its still sketchy..


the year is around 5000 BC

somalis did not exist, we only branched off from the rest of the cushtic family around 1500BC
and we branched off from the southern cushtic family tree later than that.

till 500 BC there probably was no seperation between somali and borana for example.

and all the clans go back to 600-700 AD even the one the oldest DIR did not exist before then.



but about Egyptians it might be true
who knows it might be possible that the ancesters of the egyptians came from the ethiopian highlands just the like cushites and around the once fertile Sahara grasslands.
the Sahara was a grassland like central asia till it started turning into a desert after 7000BC.
My guess is that all the different racial and ethnic groups had to migrate after water and game
started to decrease.

The choice was to go back up the highlands into Ethiopia or go up the nile valley and all the migrating groups had to fight for resources and land and allot of mixing happened along the way.[/quote]

Somalis existed before any ass-whipe ever existed. Stop believing in fairy tales. It is a proven fact that we are very anciet race. No-need to believe in ass-whipe inspired history. we have our own

Re: Fircoon 'Pharo' was a somali

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 3:53 pm
by Shankaroon_614
Actually Fircoon was not Somali but his people (The ancient Egyptians) were like Somali in every way, so therefore they treated our people (The ancient people of Punt) with the same respect, manners, as they treated with each other!! They worshiped our land and loved our people. That doesn't mean we were them!!!