Shi3a are not muslim apart from the yemeni Zaidi's

[Shirib]

[quote="Advocatar"]subxaanallah what has Aisha done (in their pointview) that they shower her with insults, inaa lilaahi wa inaa lilaahu rajacuun, how can they insult the prophets wife (SAW), Thanks EOMM, those shias are kufr man, may allah guide them.[/quote]

They curse Aisha because Mucawiya, Aisha and the Ummayads had a war with Ali after Uthman R.A was killed.

[Shirib]

U know its sad a lot of Somali's did this ziyara where u go to graves and beg dead sheiks. It is pure kuffr. I don't even think most of them knew it was wrong, they just did it cause there fore fathers did it, and didn't bother to learn the diin. May Allah guide the misguided.

[gurey25]

they are on the edge of shirk,
but they are not kaafiruun and still technically muslim..

bieng on the edge of shirk unfortunatley has led many a shia muslim
to fall into full blown kufur.

From Shiasim, these 'OTHER' Religions came forth.

1. Alevvi's of Turkey and Kurdistan
2. Bahais
3. Ahmediyas
4. Druze religion


the majorityof shia are still muslim however

[Alchemist]

Rafida and Ismaliya are not muslims..

Ismaliya believe Jesus was killed, Angel Jabril made a mistake by giving the prophethood to Muhammed (pbuh) instead of Ali and that Ali is God himself..

They also dont believe in Heaven and Hell but believe when a good person dies they go become one with Allah..

And when a bad person dies he/she will come back as a different form (animals).



Rafida believe almost all the sahaba are kuffar except for only 4..

their also involved in many shirks and kuffar acts that takes them out of the fold of islam that is why muslim scholars say their not muslims..

There are the extreme shias.

[justice4basra]

Alchemist aren't u committing sin by designating who's muslim or not? why r u judging Rafida and Ismaliya?

[Alchemist]

[quote="justice4basra"]Alchemist aren't u committing sin by designating who's muslim or not? why r u judging Rafida and Ismaliya?[/quote]


Judging? what are you talking about i give you the opinion of the scholars of islam.

If you believe people that say Ali and anyone good that dies becomes one with Allah than there is somethig wrong with your islam or you lack knowledge..

Before you even argue go to your local masjid and ask the shayk there or open any islamic book that talks about islamic beliefs and you will see what i mean..

Ismaliya are kaffir big time...

They believe Ali, Jesus (isse) Adam are all Allah in different forms..

They believe their living Imam who know resides in France Is Ali also Jesus and God in a different form.. He decides what is Xaram or not..

They say salat is not wajib, hajj also. prayer only if you want.

Praying behind them is xaram. Eating their slaughtered food is Xaram, sayng their not kuffar is xaram..

Like Shayk Muhammad ibn Abdiwahhab said in this book on the ten things that take one out of the fold of islam is. not believing that ahl kufar are indeed kufar is kufr itself..

This is not something i just took out of my pocket but agreement of the scholars of islam.

[Alchemist]

You want more proofs..

Both Rafida and Ismaliya believe the quran we have today is not complete and there a hidden chapters which declare Ali as the leader..

Believing the quran of Allah that we have is not complete and perfect takes one out of the fold of islam..

They believe Abu bakr, Umar, Uthman and the wives of the prophet are all kufar..acudubillah..

[AhlulbaytSoldier]

Disbelievers! Disbelievers! Disbelievers!

[The_Emperior5]

only allah knows who is muslim and who is not

[COSTA]

La3natulaah 3ala shii3a


i didnt know they were this bad fu3k the mother fu3kers

[Cali_Gaab]

I couldn't continue watching it after they were mocking OMAR RA with that hairy man dressing up and acting like a homosexual.

[Lil_Cutie..]

The report narrated by al-Bukaari (4070) from 'Abd-Allah ibn 'Umar, that he heard the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), when he raised his head from rukoo' in the final rak'ah of Fajr prayer and said: "O Allaah, curse So and so, and So and so, and So and so," after he had said, "Sami'a Allaahu li man hamdih, Rabbanaa wa laka'l-hamd." Then Allaah revealed the words (Interpretation of the meaning):

"Not for you (O Muhammad, but for Allaah) is the decision; whether He turns in mercy to (pardons) them or punishes them; verily, they are the Zaalimoon (polytheists, disobedients and wrongdoers)" [Aal Imaraan 3:128]

It makes sense, If Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman, Aisha (ra) we're all evil doers and bad for Islam(according to some), then why hadn't Allah cursed them and mentioned them in the Qura'an like Abu Lahab, Abu Jahl, and the Pharaoh all are! SubhanAllah!!

"You are the best of peoples ever raised up for mankind" [Aal 'Imraan 3:110]

They stood by the Habib of Allah (saw). They Spread Islam. Why would Allah chose them as companions? Why would Allah guide them to Islam if they were not good for Islam?Abu Bakr was one of the first to accept Islam and Umar was one of the greatest. These people are just question Islam and thier Ihsan all together, Allahu Calum and May Allah Judge them Accordingly