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Re: Who Was Sh. Abdul-Qadir Jeylaani?

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 4:01 pm
by Diyeeshaha_Tolka
The_Emperior5 wrote:SHEIKH ABDULQADIR JILANI WALIYULLAHH RAXIUMUALLAH :up:


is it true ,waxaan maqaly wuxuu ahaa H/A CIISE MUUSE

Re: Who Was Sh. Abdul-Qadir Jeylaani?

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 4:04 pm
by Shirib
What does ShayliAllah mean?

I used to always hear this diqri,

La illaha illAllah, Muhammad RasuluAllah, Sheik AbdulQadir ShayliAllah, Aweis Ahmed WalliyuAllah

Re: Who Was Sh. Abdul-Qadir Jeylaani?

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 4:04 pm
by The_Emperior5
kamaad foogayn Sheikh abdulqadir jilani aabtii baanu uu nahay Becous His mother Is a husayni Decented halka aaboh na wa hassani

Re: Who Was Sh. Abdul-Qadir Jeylaani?

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 4:05 pm
by surrender
Sh. A Q Jeylaani was a good man, people just interpret his teachings. he was so good. they thought he was more than just a human being!

Re: Who Was Sh. Abdul-Qadir Jeylaani?

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 4:07 pm
by Diyeeshaha_Tolka
The_Emperior5 wrote:kamaad foogayn Sheikh abdulqadir jilani aabtii baanu uu nahay Becous His mother Is a husayni Decented halka aaboh na wa hassani

loooooooooooooool sideed reer abti ugu noqoteen arab iyo xabashi ayaadba kala tihinn mise hooyadii ayaa xabashi aheed.

Re: Who Was Sh. Abdul-Qadir Jeylaani?

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 4:08 pm
by The_Emperior5
[quote="Shirib"]What does ShayliAllah mean?

I used to always hear this diqri,

La illaha illAllah, Muhammad RasuluAllah, Sheik AbdulQadir ShayliAllah, Aweis Ahmed WalliyuAllah[/quote]


there is no need to asd Sheikh abdulqadir in the shahadaa

when u say ama haad naabbbiga ku saliiyasiid when u say

Allahuma salii cala seyidina wa mawla muxammad wacala alihi wa saxbii wa salaam

its enough alihii is the ehel of the al rasuul and Sufi master Sheikh abdulqadir jilani is a Ahli al bayt

Shaylilah = waliyuallah

Re: Who Was Sh. Abdul-Qadir Jeylaani?

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 4:10 pm
by The_Emperior5
[quote="Diyeeshaha_Tolka"][quote="The_Emperior5"]kamaad foogayn Sheikh abdulqadir jilani aabtii baanu uu nahay Becous His mother Is a husayni Decented halka aaboh na wa hassani[/quote]


loooooooooooooool sideed reer abti ugu noqoteen arab iyo xabashi ayaadba kala tihinn mise hooyadii ayaa xabashi aheed.[/quote]


anigu xabashii ma ihey carab baan ahay Sheikh abdulqadir jilaani Na Bani Xuisanii ba dhallay Anigu na Bani Xuseyni baan ahay ma fahantay

Re: Who Was Sh. Abdul-Qadir Jeylaani?

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 4:43 pm
by Shilling
Koronto91 wrote:Maxaad Sh. Abdul-Qadir Jeylaani u caabudaan?
Inna lillahi wa inaa ilaahay raji'un...I'm guessing you like to say things as they come to your mind, brother watch what you say. I reckon your mom and your dad mad the mistake of calling upon this great Muslim Shiekh to seek his help instead of Allah and here you are as ignorant as ever assuming if they did that then all Ahlu Sunna Wal Jamaaca must've made the same error.

Let me clear this to you, there is non worthy of worship then Allah, none! So I would advise you keep your Wahaabi negativity toward other Muslims to yourself.
Maxaad qabuuraha u siyaarataan?
When I say stop hitting them clubs and start reading to better you knowledge of Islam I'm serious, because your level of ignorance is beyond me Walaahi!

Someone asked the same question your asking here "What is the etiquette of visiting graveyards?"

Answer:

It is prescribed to visit graves in order to learn a lesson from that and to remember the Hereafter. That is subject to the condition that one does not say anything that will anger the Lord, such as calling upon the one who is buried or seeking his help instead of Allah, or praising him and saying that he is for certain in Paradise, etc.

The purpose of visiting the graves is two fold:

(a) The visitor benefits from remembering death and the dead, remembering that their destiny will be either Paradise or Hell. This is the primary purpose of the visit.

(b) The deceased also benefits and is treated kindly by the visitor greeting him with salaams, making du'aa' for him, praying for forgiveness for him.

So, brother jahiilnimada intaa iska dhaafto try to do little bit of research; remember Islam existed way before Abdul Wahaab come to the scene, I just hope you give other Islamic scholars a shot rather then blindly following this individual.
Why do you ask Sh. Abdul-Qadir Jeylaani to help you when he's dead?
This again is Wahaabi horsesh!t, few ignorant people do this but as always I see the Wahaabi followers are taking things out of context to further their own interest, which of course is finding willing suicide bombers to take out few innocent bystanders just so they could make a political statement.

Our religion does not justifies the murder of innocent people, Wahaabism does and that is a fact!

You Wahaabis threaten other people with Jihad yet when such people respond with force as usual you use the "diin" to incite other Muslims so they could die for whatever interest you have.

Board Note: Muslims are dying everywhere today because of the fire Wahaabis lit, you would think they would stop there but no...They have all sort of fools running around the internet and the world with negativity toward other Muslims and if you think I'm lying look no further then our resident club goer Koronto91!

Re: Who Was Sh. Abdul-Qadir Jeylaani?

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 4:51 pm
by Koronto91
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Daaamn, if it isn't Sheikh Shilling aka Mullah Transformer. As usual, you can't back-up anything you write with evidence from the Qur'an or hadith, so instead you resort to your usual cheap & over-played personal attacks. Kid, I am outta your league, so take it easy, bal.

Why is the grave of Sheikh Jeylaani/Aweys more special than the grave of millions of other Muslims? Where in Islam does it permit Dhikri jam sessions to be held at grave sites? Where in Islam does it permit the annual pilgrimage visits to these graves?

Re: Who Was Sh. Abdul-Qadir Jeylaani?

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:02 pm
by The_Emperior5
same way islam alowes to visit graves Of your familie members of Those who you love so if some one loves Sh Abdulqadir jilani he will visit it no problem Zikir is done every where At the hadji Every yeaar

Re: Who Was Sh. Abdul-Qadir Jeylaani?

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:08 pm
by Shilling
Koronto91 wrote::lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Daaamn, if it isn't Sheikh Shilling aka Mullah Transformer. As usual, you can't back-up anything you write with evidence from the Qur'an or hadith, so instead you resort to your usual cheap & over-played personal attacks. Kid, I am outta your league, so take it easy, bal.

Why is the grave of Sheikh Jeylaani/Aweys more special than the grave of millions of other Muslims? Where in Islam does it permit Dhikri jam sessions to be held at grave sites? Where in Islam does it permit the annual pilgrimage visits to these graves?
You come here and lump your negativity with verses from the Qur'an or hadith, something you Wahaabis have been doing from day one. So, no need to waste my time answering them.

I think I gave you the answer to why people visit graves on my previous post, am sure those with knowledge about the "diin" go to the two mentioned Shiekh's graves with good intentions such us making du'aa...

Look no point debating with a man who his whole idea of dhikr is no more then a jam sessions...Good night kid.

Re: Who Was Sh. Abdul-Qadir Jeylaani?

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:24 pm
by eternauta
Let's face the truth, Sh. Abdul-Qadir Jeylaani was Iranian. If he was a good Muslim, there are far more good Muslims (including the Sahaba and those who come after them), and the only thing we Muslims are required is to emulate his fine example. Sh. Abdul-Qadir Jeylaani used to pray the 5 salats on time; how many of us are willing to emulate his dedication to perform salats on time? He used to frequently read the Qur'an; how many of us are willing to forego our iPods, going to cinema or watching TV in order to read the Qur'an? I reckon most of those who are defending Sufism aren't willing to do that. Sh. Abdul-Qadir Jeylaani wasn't a saint (as some claim), for the concept of sainthood doesn't exist in Islam. He was neither infallible. If you follow his example (of doing good deeds), you might as well become as good as he was or even better. That's all.

Re: Who Was Sh. Abdul-Qadir Jeylaani?

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:45 pm
by The_Emperior5
Sheikh abdulqadir jilani came after the saxaba

Re: Who Was Sh. Abdul-Qadir Jeylaani?

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:06 pm
by eternauta
The_Emperior5 wrote:Sheikh abdulqadir jilani came after the saxaba
So, why not make siyaaro for the saxaba?

Re: Who Was Sh. Abdul-Qadir Jeylaani?

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:40 pm
by The_Emperior5
WE DO MAKE SIYAAROS FOR THE SAXABAS