Mudane Afeworki: UN Talks Undermine Somali Opposition

[AbdiWahab252]

Alchemist,

ADeer read the official statement condemning the Djibouti talks:

http://www.waagacusub.com/news/14.05.08.2.htm

Some talks started in Nairobi, Kenya, on March 2008, culminating in the signing of a Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) between some members of ARS and UNPOS in Nairobi, Kenya. The MOU has secretly been negotiated without due process of ARS Charter, and illegally signed.

This MOU illegally committed the ARS to hold indirect/direct talks through UNPOS with the so-called TFG on 10th of May 2008 in Djibouti. These face one indirect talks are currently underway in Djibouti.

The same applies to those who are currently conducting indirect talks with the so-called TFG.


Those who claim to represent the ARS in these indirect talks have no authority to do sorom the Central Committee of the ARS. These people have no mandate to negotiate on behalf of the Alliance or commit us to any obligation.

According the provisions of our charter, any major policy decisions must first be proposed by the Executive Committee, endorsed by the Standing Committee and finally be approved by the Central Committee.

By disregarding the Charter, as well as, the competent democratic decision making organs and its leaders of our Alliance, those who claim to represent the ARS illegally in the current Indirect Talks in Djibouti have willfully violated the main principles of our Charter, the ARS Political Program as well as the internal Rules and Regulations of the ARS.

[Shirib]

I don't understand what these Shariifs are tryna negotiate about.

There isn't anything to negotiate about, we have a foreign country occupying us.

WHATS THERE TO NEGOTIATE ABOUT?

[Alchemist]

I don't understand what these Shariifs are tryna negotiate about.

There isn't anything to negotiate about, we have a foreign country occupying us.

WHATS THERE TO NEGOTIATE ABOUT?

nothing.. everyone left the meeting..

[galia]

Guys we have no choice but to fight and take as freinds anyone that would help us beat meles.

That fact is that the so called peace talks was a trick to divide the united somali resistance, thankfully it had failed.

If peace talks must come than it must be beween the UIC and meles.

Somalis, lets continue this liberation war, we are now winning by miles, it would be foolish of us to throw away our victory which is near.

[eternauta]

Ethiopia invaded and is occupying Somalia with force. Only force can liberate Somalia. That's why every Somali (minus traitors and collaborators) need support Al-Shabaab.

[American-Suufi]

Sharif Sheikh Ahmad isn't a sellout, he always said he favored open talks and negotiations to war, going all the way back to Sept. 2006. He and ex-speaker Sharif Aden were the ones who drew up a fair peace treaty in Dec. 2006 but the hard liners on both sides rejected it.

If more people had listened to Sharif Aden and Sharif Ahmad, we would have a unified and peaceful Somalia today.

James
Brother you are right, Somalis are self righteous people who will rather destroy their own children than compromise.

[galia]

What compromise, there is nothing on the table to compromise about.

Do you want the somali people to accept ethiopian over lordship?

Or do you want us to fight like Allah says in the Quran to defend ourselves, family, property and land?

[eternauta]

What compromise, there is nothing on the table to compromise about.

Do you want the somali people to accept ethiopian over lordship?

Or do you want us to fight like Allah says in the Quran to defend ourselves, family, property and land?

galia, you sound Akhwaan.

[American-Suufi]

What compromise, there is nothing on the table to compromise about.

Do you want the somali people to accept ethiopian over lordship?

Or do you want us to fight like Allah says in the Quran to defend ourselves, family, property and land?

galia, you sound Akhwaan.

Is this the same galia who wrote i hate praying and Islam not long ago? dDd she become al-shabab iqwaan? Maashallah.

[galia]

[quote="American-Suufi"][quote="eternauta"][quote="galia"]What compromise, there is nothing on the table to compromise about.

Do you want the somali people to accept ethiopian over lordship?

Or do you want us to fight like Allah says in the Quran to defend ourselves, family, property and land?[/quote]galia, you sound Akhwaan. [/quote]

Is this the same galia who wrote i hate praying and Islam not long ago? dDd she become al-shabab iqwaan? Maashallah.[/quote]

Yes mashallah

[xoogSADE14]

Neither Al-shabaab/ICU/ARS/Al-Qaeda nor the TFG/TPLF/The West care about the thousands upon thousands of innocent Somali women and children that are dying.

[James Dahl]

The treaty of Nov. 2006 was:
* Ethiopians out of Baidoa (they had yet to invade the rest of the country)
* Government moves to Mogadishu, adopts Sharia law, UIC and TFG govern together until elections

A/Y had assurances that the Ethiopians would crush the UIC and put him in power throughout the country, so he rejected it.

[Warsai]

Its pretty sad that some see this a "civil war" between Eritrea/Ethiopian or Cousin vs. Cousin...damn shame. Pres. Afeworki is the only one in the horn speaking on behalf the somali as a whole not just as particular tribe. All he's done is allow a venue for figures who were trying to create a unified somalia. Instead, this puppeteer TFG is just taking up space, money, and time at the expense of the Somali people. Where's Sudan (quiet), where's Ethiopia (occupying), where's Uganda (occupying), Kenya (quiet). BTW...can any even tell me if the TFG has built at least ONE road or hospital, bump it...at least one water pump? For real ya lets be real!

[JaMaaL-23]

The treaty of Nov. 2006 was:
* Ethiopians out of Baidoa (they had yet to invade the rest of the country)
* Government moves to Mogadishu, adopts Sharia law, UIC and TFG govern together until elections

A/Y had assurances that the Ethiopians would crush the UIC and put him in power throughout the country, so he rejected it.

there is the truth.

A/Y has left out the Ethiopian card til the last hand (when ICU attacked Baidhaba)

He prefered to strike a deal with ICU AS James has stated above, knowing that its the only way Somalis can find that ellusive peace.

However, the HG/Ayr ICU Leaders like Aways/cayroow/Indhacade had rejected this pact thinking they can take over the entire country, totally misreading the TFG's openess to negotiations as weakness.

Sheikh Shariif was the only decent ICU leader who given the chance had the ability to unite Somalia. but his efforts were undermined by his iljeex ICU colleagues who were using the ICU REVOLUTION as a cover to keep their civil war booty.

we could have had a win win situation back then.

[Shilling]

I agree with Mudane Afeworki on the Djibouti talks. There is no need for talks with the TFG at all. Any talks between the Alliance for the Reliberation of Somalia (ARS) should be with Meles Zenawi directly and must contain an exit plan for Zenawi's troops out of Somalia.

Abdiwahab,

Afeworki statement proves one thing and that is the Alliance of Re-Liberation Somalia (ARS) has no option but to remain loyal and commit to Asmara's terms and prerequisites if the Alliance wants to stay and continue to use its base in Eritrea. Sxb, the ARS is not the first or the last for that matter to play by Eritrea's rules, after all Eritrea hosts scores of other rebellions that opposed or wished to harm and weaken Eritrea's archenemy, Ethiopia.

That said, I disagree with you about opening direct talks with just Meles Zenawi, this is not Meles and ARS peace talks but rather Somali peace talks and if you honestly think opening direct talks with just Meles is the way to go about solving Somalia's problems, then is fair to say that you are truly deaf to Somalia's plight. Unlike some, Abdiwahab, I can read between the lines, this notion of yours isn't about excluding the TFG but rather AY and his folks which explains the long lines of essay's you've been posting here at Snet where your fantasizes take a personality of their own. This isn't 1991 anymore I think we are past that right now.

Btw...The refusal of Aways and his Alliance to part take in the peace talks only hurts them since it proves to the world this people want nothing but to continue Somalia's plight. The TFG was never against peace talks and this proves all the more so.