Somali President calls on insurgents to seek power by voting

[Abtiga]

hey you guys just an idea. dont you think we should get together, all the somalis in Europe, USA, Canada, and anywhere else that support AY and write letters to him, like petition to show our support. to tell how hard he's working to bring justice to our country, and he shouldnt have no worries there are more of us to come and will take over the job once he leaves. and somalia is in good hands, i admit no one is perfect AY had his shares of trouble and misunderstandings. but there is not a single somali men today that can do the job better than AY we should support our president. i know how to go about so if anyone is serious about that, let me know

Somalia is in a worse situation than Darfur according to the UN. More people are displaced and killed in Muqdisho under A/Y's watch. Rape is common practice by the clan militia employed by the TFG. Kids in Quranic schools are tortured, night time raids in some xaafado such as Waabari are common, in those raids, women get raped.

How is that justice in any sensible way? Do you read the news at all? So much for Somalia being in Good hands. It is interesting how some somalis, because of their deep clanish mentality, they have lsot touch with basic reality. I am sure if you(surrender) had any blood ties to Muqdisho residents, knew their plight first hand, you made calls to your relatives checking if they are safe on a daily basis, your post would drastically be different. Now you told us what your clan is or how far removed from those somalis in Muqdisho, who are plighted and devastated, you are, either case, may Allah help you find guidance.


Someone should tell this warlord enough with death and devastation.

[Somalian_Boqor]

hey you guys just an idea. dont you think we should get together, all the somalis in Europe, USA, Canada, and anywhere else that support AY and write letters to him, like petition to show our support. to tell how hard he's working to bring justice to our country, and he shouldnt have no worries there are more of us to come and will take over the job once he leaves. and somalia is in good hands, i admit no one is perfect AY had his shares of trouble and misunderstandings. but there is not a single somali men today that can do the job better than AY we should support our president. i know how to go about so if anyone is serious about that, let me know

Somalia is in a worse situation than Darfur according to the UN. More people are displaced and killed in Muqdisho under A/Y's watch. Rape is common practice by the clan militia employed by the TFG. Kids in Quranic schools are tortured, night time raids in some xaafado such as Waabari are common, in those raids, women get raped.

How is that justice in any sensible way? Do you read the news at all? So much for Somalia being in Good hands. It is interesting how some somalis, because of their deep clanish mentality, they have lsot touch with basic reality.


Someone should tell this warlord enough with death and devastation.

Why don't you tell that to the insurgents ninyaho.

It's not the Government nor it's allies who have created death iyo devastation in Mogadishu it's al-Shabab even reer Mogadishu know that.

This Government and it's allies have every right to defend themselves that is something you can't take away.

[Abtiga]

^ A Picture is worth thousand words, as such, it would be impossible to reason with you saxib. Let someone with no emotional attachment to a warlord discuss issues. Adiga, you are walled up, emotional, and defensive, right is wrong for you if the right exposes the fallacy of who you support, wrong is right if it helps your case. I don't intend to waste my time arguing with corrupted beings whose life has lost meaning other than willfully place themselves in the servitude of Ibliis wa acwanuh.

[Kismaayo21]

/Qabiil doesnt do it for me


ina yeey is sadly my abti he is basically hooyo o nas laheeyn U see me fam.. but the thing is I wud allow a man of power 2 rule, but i never want 2 B the biacthes biatch if U get what am sayin? I rather die a horrible death and suffer to the utmost a human or anything with feelings can feel.

[RebelLion]

Abtiga

Take your propaganda somewhere else, are you denying that the al shabab are playing a role when it comes to displacing innocent people?

There was a hiraan article a while back that was talking about how al shabab insurgents would use women and children as shields against TFG and Ethiopians. These al shabab terrorists are not conventional fighters and conduct urban warfare, that's what needs to stop.

Isn't al shabab terrorists who kill and behead civilians and captured tfg polices/soldiers. If anything it's the TFG and abdullahi yusuf that are at least attempting to salvage the country and create peace.

Why is it the most ardent supporters of al shabab and the so called resistance are those in the diaspora who have no idea what's going on in the country?

[Abtiga]

/Qabiil doesnt do it for me


ina yeey is sadly my abti he is basically hooyo o nas laheeyn U see me fam.. but the thing is I wud allow a man of power 2 rule, but i never want 2 B the biacthes biatch if U get what am sayin? I rather die a horrible death and suffer to the utmost a human or anything with feelings can feel.

Good for you bro, you will be saved. Your parents taught you responsibility and to think on your own. Allah teaches us in the Quran to be just human beings even if we have to condemn the closest to us. Few people can claim to be just among somalis lately. Good for you saxib. Keep it real like that.

[Kismaayo21]

as much as i dislike ina yeey, what he just said is the truth and he is a realist

[Abtiga]

as much as i dislike ina yeey, what he just said is the truth and he is a realist

It is a bit late and last gasp of a failed man. Why didn't it dawn on him sooner that the way to rule somalis is through respect and negotiations? His mantra was war, war, and more war on everybody who opposed him. Didn't you listen to his past lectures to the Baydhabo parliament? Where was his realism before a million plus people were displaced, six thousand were dead and 2.5 million on the verge of starvation? he made one plunder after another from election night 2004 on to this date. A/Y applied all the wrong measures and the result was to break further the broken country and people he found in need of repair and respite.

A- he employed the same warlords who were expelled from muqdisho.
B- he invited unwelcome foreign troops he knew would be entangled in a warfare.
C- he defended and to this day defends the attoricities committed by these foreign troops.


He is now a defeated man who understands his days are numbered. The thousands of Ethiopian troops he so religiously wanted their help failed miserbaly to deliver for him. His TFG's mandate is closer and for him to sound reasonable is to buy a lease of life for his organization so it survives past its sell date.


Above everything else, he needs to account for the crimes committed under his watch. Aakhiro waa la hubaa inuu Alle hortiisa istaagi doono lana weydiin doono everyone who died, who starved, who got raped, who lost limbs. It would be nice he faced some justice sooner.

[King-of-Awdal]

Abtiga

Iam very curious to know how would u fix this problem that yall have. 2009 is not that far and am pretty sure who ever stands against him will win in a landslide.

[Abtiga]

^ KingAwdal, you heard from me first in here, A/Y is not planning to leave unless forced to. Ask his supporters, they think like him. Odaga wuxuu ku waashay xukun wax la yiraahdo, it is never enough for him. Read carefully about his news conferences lately, he wants the TFG to survive and the clan based system of darood versus hawiye to stay in place. Most likely he will nominate himself as representative of his clan again and run if they let him survive that long. Soomaali ilaahay ha u gargaaro nin yohow, Qabiil baa diintii ka saaray.

[King-of-Awdal]

Well iam not gonna waste my time reading about his history it doesnt concern me. But i just see no end in site. Both the TFG and Al Shabab are after their own interest and at the end civilians are paying the prize. A population need to stand up for themselves but yall seem to be in a deep hibernation. As for the clan system am sure once they get a consitution and a parliament it can be reappealed again. If it was up to me i would recommend the swiss system to somalia and a rotating presidency among what ever federal states they end up with.

[qardasay]

THE 72 SIGNS OF DOOMSDAY


The Prophet Muhammad (Salallaho Alaihi Wassallam) foretold 72 signs that would appear near Doomsday. Signs that have been foretold more than 1400 yrs ago >>> clear as crystal!


1. People will leave prayer
2. People will usurp Ama'naat.
3. Lying will become an art
4. There will be murders on the slightest of disagreements.
5. Interest will become common
6. There will be very tall buildings
7. People will sell Religion for the world
8. People will treat relatives badly
9. Justice will become a rarity
10. Lies will be considered truth
11. Clothes will be of silk
12. Persecution will become common
13. Divorces will become common
14. Sudden deaths will increase
15. The usurper of Ama'naat will be considered honest and honourable
16. The keeper of Am'naat will be called an usurper of things given to him for
safekeeping
17. Liars will be thought of as honest
18. Honest people will be thought of as liars
19. False accusations will become the norm
20. It will be hot in spite of rain
21. Instead of wishing for children, people will pray that they not have
children
22. People from bad backgrounds and with bad upbringing will live a life of
luxury (material, not peaceful)
23. Good people, when they try to practice, will be cut off from the world.
24. Previously good people will also usurp Ama'naat
25. Leaders will become persecutors
26. Ulema and Qaris will commit adultery
27. People will wear clothes of animal skin
28. But their hearts will smell and will be dead
29. And will be bitter
30. Gold will become common
31. Demand for Silver will increase
32. Sin will increase
33. Peace will become rare
34. Ayaats from the Quran will be decorated and calligraphy will become
common
35. Mosques will be decorated
36. And will have tall minars
37. But hearts will be empty
38. Alcoholic drinks will be consumed
39. Punishments ordered by the Shariah will be revoked and will no longer be
implemented
40. Women will order their mothers around
41. People who are with naked feet, naked bodies and against religion will
become kings
42. Women will trade along with men
43. Women will imitate men
44. Men will imitate women
45. People will swear by things other than Allah and the Quran
46. Even Muslims will be prepared to give false testimony, without being
incited to it
47. Only people one knows will be greeted with the salaam
48. The knowledge of the shariah will be used to earn worldly things
49. Acts which earn the Akhirah, will be used to earn the world
50. Assets belonging to the nation will be considered and treated as personal
treasures by the rulers
51. Ama'naat will be considered ones personal asset
52. Zakaat will be considered a penalty
53. The lowest and the worst man in the nation will become its leader
54. People will not obey their fathers
55. And will mistreat their mothers
56. And will not hold back from harming their friends
57. And will obey their wives
58. And the voices of men who commit adultery will be raised in mosques
59. Women who sing will be treated with great deference
60. Instruments of music will be kept with great care
61. Alcohol will be drunk on the highways
62. People will be proud of their acts of persecution
63. Justice will be sold in the courts
64. The number of men in the police force will increase
65. Instead of music, the Quran will be used to gain pleasure for its tune and
style (qirat), not for what it preaches, its meaning or for rewards in the
Akhirah
66. Animal fur will be used
67. The last of the Ummat will curse those before them. (clearly seen today in
people who call the Prophet's companion's names)
68. Either Allah will send a Red Storm upon you,
69. Or Earthquakes
70. Or your faces will be changed
71. Or a rain of rocks from the skies. (Asteroids? Meteors?)
72. Lies will become a habit of the rulers and the rich

[Abtiga]

Well iam not gonna waste my time reading about his history it doesnt concern me. But i just see no end in site. Both the TFG and Al Shabab are after their own interest and at the end civilians are paying the prize. A population need to stand up for themselves but yall seem to be in a deep hibernation. As for the clan system am sure once they get a consitution and a parliament it can be reappealed again. If it was up to me i would recommend the swiss system to somalia and a rotating presidency among what ever federal states they end up with.

To realize needed changes, we need new breed of men in leadership who think beyond their clans. It is impossible to devalue clan system with the likes of A/Y whose power is gained through the clan system. A/Y and others on the opposite side appeal to their clansmen for support and they get the support they need, thus, Somalia remains in limbo, dead, with no future in sight. Wallahi we need Allah's resolution and that he gives us a break from warlords, clanists, mindless generation raised on hate. I have given up on Somalia already anyway, but it pains me that somalis as young as 20 think A/Y is okay, he is a just man. Such mentalities assures the death of our nation. Seems to me after careful analysis:

A- Clan matters more than a nation.
B- An individual earns respect by virtue of him being from the clan irrespective of his horresndous personality and criminality.
C- Allah doesn't figure into most somali people's thinking. Some of the warlrod supporters would argue with you about salafi caqiida, sunnah, quran, and they may be well versed, but little faith they gain from their knowledge. That says all.

RIP Somalia.

[Cawar]

Someone should tell this warlord enough with death and devastation.

Who is your choice to lead the somali ppl in this current situation??

And since you have given up on somalia..why are so spirited to talk about it this often??

[King-of-Awdal]

Well i hate to say this but clan politics isnt going any where in somalia so they must find a way to work through it or else it will be in a state of limbo. You think you are right and they think they are right. There must be a compromise and yall can meet in the middle or else nothing will work. If yall truly love ur country and people you will find a solution. This shit has been going on for 19 years now.