I rarely say this but that was a top-class summarization of exactly the status-quo of Kismaayo. I applaud you, saaxib.Murax wrote:Voltage wrote:Murax, Jubbaland cannot and will not be sustained. Already even the most united contiguous land suitable for an autonomous state (Puntland) has disintegrated and that is a lesson to be heeded and has been heeded by Sade. Our objective from now on is to live in peace and harmony with our neighbors and eventually the land will be overtaken by a central government. Since the dust has settled and we have turned out to be the most powerful group, we have had time to look seriously into the future and realize Jubbaland cannot and will not materialize. It is too divisive, it is too tribalistic, and just leads the animosity and problems that people have against us to continue. This "aqoon is waydaarsi" or dialogu within our community was put forward under the governorship of Farax Taano in which many of our leading intellectuals were given the chance to weigh in. That is why we signed peace treaty with every single group from Shiiqaal to Gaaljecel to Jareerweyn to Biimaal, etc. Our objective is to get internal legitimacy in the region and be civilians under a central government in the future.
The only people still holding on to the idea of Jubbaland are people who have the idea they will lay claim to high positions in it and use THAT as a leverage to be awarded national positions as was the case during the beginning of the TFG. This is what Xassan Dheere was talking about when he called Barre's actions attempts to go back to "qabqablenimo".
I 100% disagree with You and while I may be pessimistic that this Jubbland actually does get established, I would support anyone who goes about the mountainious task of trying to establish it. All this time I thought You were fully in support of the idea of a Jubbaland with different leadership then Barre, but I had no idea that You were against the idea of its formation altogether. In addition sxb I think You're wrong about Sade not beleiving in Jubbaland and wanting to keep the status quo. I've went to SDF conferences where SADE intellectuals with PhD's raising money for Gedo schools were speaking about Jubbaland and were promoting it. Every Marexaan I know from the odayaal, young generation to even My own Parents who are removed from Somali politics support the idea of Jubbland. To think that Marexaans are content to live in Kismaayo as shacbi with maamul la'aan for our regions is ludicrious.
As for Your rational that Puntland is dissintrigrating, saaxibo Puntland meel heersare ayuu marayaa and its getting better and better May Ilahay increase it for them. Majerteen have done a good job and instead of us being petty and or jealous in saying its dissintigrating lets be mature Men, admit our shortcomings/failures and work to correct them. Maamul loo dhanyahay Jubbaland ah is definitely a way to go and Your suggestion that Marexaan wait in Kismaayo like xoolo for a Government that will probably never come doesn't make any sense. A Government most probably isn't going to come and even if it does there not gonna come with a magic wand and fix everything. Its been 18 years since the Government collapsed sxb. In addition I disagree with the assertion that a Jubbaland admin even headed by Barre would be used as a guise to oppress other groups in Kismaayo/Jubboinka. Quite the contrary, their rights would be even more ensured. As any Ogadeen, Gaaljecel, Harti etc. How Kismaayo was Before 2006 and they'll tell You it was a relatively safe city. Take Puntland for example under their maamul Jareers live, work there and even own property. Also remember that if a Government were to come the most horumar would still occur in Somailand/Puntland because they already have the institutions necessary for a Government to work and all they need is funding for budgets/projects. In addition the ministers in those regions will be more competent to run a Government as they've been doing it for 18 years and the shacbi in those areas will be more prepared for a Government as they've been living in one. The average kid thats grown up in Bossaso, Haregeisa, Burco the last 18 years has not experienced lawlessness a day in His life. A maamul even if its oppressive leads to peace, which leads to stability which eventually leads to investment, development etc. It is my opinion that if there is a contigant contingent of Marexaans in Kismaayo that do not want this Jubbaland established there not doing it because there angels and care for other clans there but there doing it for selfish reasons and want to actually furthur abuse and exploit those clans by keeping them out of business, hording the port money and even try to harass them out the city altogether, and want to keep Kismaayo as a little fiefdom where a few key Sade induviduals in Kismaayo keep the money. The fact that under a Jubbaland they'll have to share something and compete with people from other clans drives them crazy . They are the real calooshooda u shaqeystayaal.
As for this whole "We want educated people not qabqables" Well tell Me is friggin AY more educated than Barre? Cadde Musse? Answer is no. Anyway really hoosta makaa gelinaayo Barre taageer as You suspect Me of doing a lot. I'm just saying that frankly inadeero I'm really dissapointed at How You really took a 180 turn from the interests of Beesha simply out of some colaad siyaasadeed You had for Barre and His camp. Sadeboi told Me many times I believe in the establishment of Jubbaland but I don't want Barre leading it period but for intellectuals, educated Marexaans to lead it and I totally respected that. Barre does not equal Marexaan and standing against Him is fine, but the fact is You stated You're against the idea of a Jubbaland or that Marexaan have given up on it is royally dissapointing.
My purely personal opinion and shaqsi I fully endorse and support what Barre, Ahmed Warsame, Yusuf Kaanti and Mataan are doing in Kismaayo and I hope they are successful. In my opinion they are the only ones showing a political pulse for Marexaan but are dealing with a bunch of idiots oon abaal iyo caqli lahayn so they may not be able to get this done. Nonetheless I salute them.
Insha'Allah, they will succeed. The fact that a Guddi consisting of every clan has been established is a good signal in the right direction.
