The Infamy and Trickery of Al-Wahhabiya
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Re: The Infamy and Trickery of Al-Wahhabiya
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Suufis are not Kufar they are muslim and they say La illaha ilalaah. The Prophet s.a.w said the blood, property and honour of a muslim is sacred .Its haram to kill innocent people, why should suufis be killed??? Fear allah warya you should not say stupid things like that.
Suufis are not Kufar they are muslim and they say La illaha ilalaah. The Prophet s.a.w said the blood, property and honour of a muslim is sacred .Its haram to kill innocent people, why should suufis be killed??? Fear allah warya you should not say stupid things like that.
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Re: The Infamy and Trickery of Al-Wahhabiya
[quote="RebelLion"]http://www.dhahar.com/article.php?articleid=4622
"The Wahabi's have innumerable wrong tenets which are based on three principles. They say that amaal or Ibaadaah are included in imama. One example is he who does not perform fard although he believes it is fard becomes a disbeliever. And he must be killed and his properties divided among the liars i.e the Wahabis. Secondly they say he who asks for shafaa the souls of propehet Aleyhimu salam. or Awlias rahmatulahi. or visit their graves and pray while consider them mediators becomes a disbeliever.They also believe the dead do not have any sense."[/quote]
Oh them crazy wahhabis. They think that leaving fard is kufr? Yeah I have one similar example about this kind of senseless action and takfeer. One man (maybe a wahhabi) called Abu Bakr as Siddiiq (they claim he's best person who ever lived after the anbiyaa) labelled many tribes as murtaddiin when they were still praying and practising Islam, they only left one fard which was zakaat. And he fought and killed them as a kuffaar because their women were taken as slaves. Just think about that!
And yeah, they think you can't worship saints? Oh sorry, yes they were only mediators to get closer to Allah, not real worship. Funny how the mushrikin of Quraish had exactly the same slogans that some of these extreme sufis have today. Allah says in Qur'aan that they say:
"We worship them only that they may bring us near unto Allah. Lo! Allah will judge between them concerning that wherein they differ. Lo! Allah guides not him who is a liar, an ingrate." (39:3)
"The Wahabi's have innumerable wrong tenets which are based on three principles. They say that amaal or Ibaadaah are included in imama. One example is he who does not perform fard although he believes it is fard becomes a disbeliever. And he must be killed and his properties divided among the liars i.e the Wahabis. Secondly they say he who asks for shafaa the souls of propehet Aleyhimu salam. or Awlias rahmatulahi. or visit their graves and pray while consider them mediators becomes a disbeliever.They also believe the dead do not have any sense."[/quote]
Oh them crazy wahhabis. They think that leaving fard is kufr? Yeah I have one similar example about this kind of senseless action and takfeer. One man (maybe a wahhabi) called Abu Bakr as Siddiiq (they claim he's best person who ever lived after the anbiyaa) labelled many tribes as murtaddiin when they were still praying and practising Islam, they only left one fard which was zakaat. And he fought and killed them as a kuffaar because their women were taken as slaves. Just think about that!
And yeah, they think you can't worship saints? Oh sorry, yes they were only mediators to get closer to Allah, not real worship. Funny how the mushrikin of Quraish had exactly the same slogans that some of these extreme sufis have today. Allah says in Qur'aan that they say:
"We worship them only that they may bring us near unto Allah. Lo! Allah will judge between them concerning that wherein they differ. Lo! Allah guides not him who is a liar, an ingrate." (39:3)
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Re: The Infamy and Trickery of Al-Wahhabiya
Just a decade ago they were wearing see through dirac and singing "awliyo allahay" and now
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Re: The Infamy and Trickery of Al-Wahhabiya
The only reason this piece of sh!t talks bad about "Whhabiya" is because they hate and kill his Master the Tigre, that's all.
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Re: The Infamy and Trickery of Al-Wahhabiya
Sir-Luggoyo wrote:The only reason this piece of sh!t talks bad about "Whhabiya" is because they hate and kill his Master the Tigre, that's all.
SirLuugoyo:
This is the new spiritual leader of the RebelLions & TFG supporters:

He baptized Afbiijo during a ceremony in Addis Ababa
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Re: The Infamy and Trickery of Al-Wahhabiya
I wonder if your paraphrasing this Sufi 'belief' does it justice, or if it is rather a straw man conjured to justify the typical vapid Salafi objection?Salahuddiin wrote: And yeah, they think you can't worship saints? Oh sorry, yes they were only mediators to get closer to Allah, not real worship.
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Re: The Infamy and Trickery of Al-Wahhabiya
Executive,
Stop playing reverse psychology with sxb, this were your exact words:
"Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians, WHOEVER BELIEVES IN GOD AND THE LAST DAY AND DOES GOOD, they shall have their reward from their Lord, and there is no fear for them, nor shall they grieve"(Holy Quran 2:62).
Allah as you can see in that verse is clear as you can get. Not even Jews and Christians deserve to be called kuffar; an atheist is kuffar. Now that this is clear its obvious who are the misguided ones. But since you drive your knowledge from what AbdulWahab wrote I think I could fathom where your coming from when it seems you don't have the simplest knowledge about the Qur'an itself. The misguided ones are the Jews and Christians, the Suufi's are not misguided as you put since they go beyond just saying "La illaha ilalaah." I understand you call yourself "Salafi," you know who else called himself a "salafi?" It was prophet Mohamed (pbuh) when he said "I am the best salaf for you" and he truly was since he never called another Muslim a kuffar or misguided as those that follow AbdulWahaab do. Once upon a time "La illaha ilalaah, Mohammedun Rasul Allah" was enough to assure people Allah's reward in the hereafter: Hence, Abu Talib, but today your not even a Muslim unless your brand yourself as you have. The cancer that is killing the Muslim world are clearly the Wasabi's...Some say Imam Mahdi is coming to save the Muslim world from Christians and Jews, but I say he is coming back to cut this cancer that is within us.
Stop playing reverse psychology with sxb, this were your exact words:
"La illaha ilalaah" is universally shared by all that believe in the ones of God (swt).SuufiThe misguided who came centuries later.
"Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians, WHOEVER BELIEVES IN GOD AND THE LAST DAY AND DOES GOOD, they shall have their reward from their Lord, and there is no fear for them, nor shall they grieve"(Holy Quran 2:62).
Allah as you can see in that verse is clear as you can get. Not even Jews and Christians deserve to be called kuffar; an atheist is kuffar. Now that this is clear its obvious who are the misguided ones. But since you drive your knowledge from what AbdulWahab wrote I think I could fathom where your coming from when it seems you don't have the simplest knowledge about the Qur'an itself. The misguided ones are the Jews and Christians, the Suufi's are not misguided as you put since they go beyond just saying "La illaha ilalaah." I understand you call yourself "Salafi," you know who else called himself a "salafi?" It was prophet Mohamed (pbuh) when he said "I am the best salaf for you" and he truly was since he never called another Muslim a kuffar or misguided as those that follow AbdulWahaab do. Once upon a time "La illaha ilalaah, Mohammedun Rasul Allah" was enough to assure people Allah's reward in the hereafter: Hence, Abu Talib, but today your not even a Muslim unless your brand yourself as you have. The cancer that is killing the Muslim world are clearly the Wasabi's...Some say Imam Mahdi is coming to save the Muslim world from Christians and Jews, but I say he is coming back to cut this cancer that is within us.
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Re: The Infamy and Trickery of Al-Wahhabiya
[quote="Padishah"][quote="Salahuddiin"]
And yeah, they think you can't worship saints? Oh sorry, yes they were only mediators to get closer to Allah, not real worship.[/quote]
I wonder if your paraphrasing this Sufi 'belief' does it justice, or if it is rather a straw man conjured to justify the typical vapid Salafi objection?[/quote]
That's exactly what your boy wrote:
[quote="RebelLion"]
"Secondly they say he who asks for shafaa the souls of propehet Aleyhimu salam. or Awlias rahmatulahi. or visit their graves and pray while consider them mediators becomes a disbeliever."[/quote]
I really wonder why not ask straight from Allah when Qur'aan and Sunna are full of aayaat about this?
And yeah, they think you can't worship saints? Oh sorry, yes they were only mediators to get closer to Allah, not real worship.[/quote]
I wonder if your paraphrasing this Sufi 'belief' does it justice, or if it is rather a straw man conjured to justify the typical vapid Salafi objection?[/quote]
That's exactly what your boy wrote:
[quote="RebelLion"]
"Secondly they say he who asks for shafaa the souls of propehet Aleyhimu salam. or Awlias rahmatulahi. or visit their graves and pray while consider them mediators becomes a disbeliever."[/quote]
I really wonder why not ask straight from Allah when Qur'aan and Sunna are full of aayaat about this?
Re: The Infamy and Trickery of Al-Wahhabiya
Lady-luggoyo, must you always spread your dark bajun buttchecks and fart all over perfectly good threads?Lady-Luggoyo wrote:The only reason this piece of sh!t talks bad about "Whhabiya" is because they hate and kill his Master the Tigre, that's all.
Anyways, I agree with those who said Islam does not need to be fractured, suufi's, NOI, wahhabi and all other sects only serve to create divisions.
No muslim should support wahabi's extremist who takfir people, no muslim can call another muslim a disbelieve.
"According to the Quran, if a person says assalamu alaikum to us to indicate that he is a Muslim, we cannot say to him ``you are not a believer.'"
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Re: The Infamy and Trickery of Al-Wahhabiya
[quote="RebelLion"]
No muslim should support wahabi's extremist who takfir people, no muslim can call another muslim a disbelieve.
"According to the Quran, if a person says assalamu alaikum to us to indicate that he is a Muslim, we cannot say to him ``you are not a believer.'"[/quote]
Ok shaikh, so Abu Bakr as Siddiq was wrong doing this? Waiting for your fatwa.
No muslim should support wahabi's extremist who takfir people, no muslim can call another muslim a disbelieve.
"According to the Quran, if a person says assalamu alaikum to us to indicate that he is a Muslim, we cannot say to him ``you are not a believer.'"[/quote]
Ok shaikh, so Abu Bakr as Siddiq was wrong doing this? Waiting for your fatwa.
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