
Dahir Aweys, Sharif and The Resistance Movement
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TFG = Colonial administrators who can't even make decisions for themselves without getting it approved by their President Gabre 

Re: Dahir Aweys, Sharif and The Resistance Movement
Abdi,
It easy for anyone to criticize while they are away from the nightmare. In your case being as far away as America, gives you the advantage to vow continuation of the resistance, while some of us are living daily in the combat zone under heavy exchange of fire. We more than anything want to see an end of the violence in any way that is possible. In BBC interview, a caller said to the Sharif, you are being sold out to the enemy after our people were killed and our sisters were raped by the enemy. His response was the most intellectual response that any Somali politician/WADAAD ever said. He said, you are right; we have lost many people, and many women were raped, but should we wait until the remaining women in Mogadishu also get raped? And more people get killed? Or should we try in any way we can to save the remaining?
So Abdi how we save the remaining?
It easy for anyone to criticize while they are away from the nightmare. In your case being as far away as America, gives you the advantage to vow continuation of the resistance, while some of us are living daily in the combat zone under heavy exchange of fire. We more than anything want to see an end of the violence in any way that is possible. In BBC interview, a caller said to the Sharif, you are being sold out to the enemy after our people were killed and our sisters were raped by the enemy. His response was the most intellectual response that any Somali politician/WADAAD ever said. He said, you are right; we have lost many people, and many women were raped, but should we wait until the remaining women in Mogadishu also get raped? And more people get killed? Or should we try in any way we can to save the remaining?
So Abdi how we save the remaining?
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xidigow,
If that was the Sharif's intention, why didn't he just surrender in December 2006 and not fight ?
Why make peace now after a horrible cost has been paid ?
Its foolish to make such statements about saving the masses when he & the UIC leadership could have simply quit and given up to save the masses early on instead of waging a resistance only to give up for much less than what they hoped for.
Today, the Sharif wing have accepted that Ethiopians can stay in Somalia for as long as they deem fit. The Djibouti agreement states that Ethiopians withdraw after a UN force of SUFFICIENT numbers replaces them. It is an ambigous goal because who knows what is "sufficient" and if the UN will ever send any forces to Somalia.
All in all, the UN will not send any force. The Ethiopians will remain. Sharif will be discredited as a bunch who sold out for so little.
If that was the Sharif's intention, why didn't he just surrender in December 2006 and not fight ?
Why make peace now after a horrible cost has been paid ?
Its foolish to make such statements about saving the masses when he & the UIC leadership could have simply quit and given up to save the masses early on instead of waging a resistance only to give up for much less than what they hoped for.
Today, the Sharif wing have accepted that Ethiopians can stay in Somalia for as long as they deem fit. The Djibouti agreement states that Ethiopians withdraw after a UN force of SUFFICIENT numbers replaces them. It is an ambigous goal because who knows what is "sufficient" and if the UN will ever send any forces to Somalia.
All in all, the UN will not send any force. The Ethiopians will remain. Sharif will be discredited as a bunch who sold out for so little.
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Brother,AbdiWahab252 wrote:xidigow,
If that was the Sharif's intention, why didn't he just surrender in December 2006 and not fight ?
Why make peace now after a horrible cost has been paid ?
Its foolish to make such statements about saving the masses when he & the UIC leadership could have simply quit and given up to save the masses early on instead of waging a resistance only to give up for much less than what they hoped for.
Today, the Sharif wing have accepted that Ethiopians can stay in Somalia for as long as they deem fit. The Djibouti agreement states that Ethiopians withdraw after a UN force of SUFFICIENT numbers replaces them. It is an ambigous goal because who knows what is "sufficient" and if the UN will ever send any forces to Somalia.
All in all, the UN will not send any force. The Ethiopians will remain. Sharif will be discredited as a bunch who sold out for so little.
One thing I know is, this so called resistance is not working. Beside, last saturday he said in Dijabouiti the ICU made mistakes back in 2006, and we are willing to correct it. meaning! while 100% not surrendering, we need to come up with a way to save our suffering people and to send Afbeejo to his grave in MUDUG style.
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Xidigow,
I am not supportive of Aweys. He is a fool. but a bigger fool is Sharif who is now signing up to a deal that is flawed.
The deal has been signed and we will see if Sharif will achieve anything. But mark my words that Sharif will be conned like Cabdullahi Sheik Xasan and Mohamed iman.
To crush Afbiijo, you need to make a deal that limits his influence. Without the Ethiopian withdrawl, it is more difficult.
THere are only 6 months left on Bush's term and with a new administration, a new Somali policy will come. The funding for Addis Ababa dries up and that is when the back of the TFG is broken.
I am not supportive of Aweys. He is a fool. but a bigger fool is Sharif who is now signing up to a deal that is flawed.
The deal has been signed and we will see if Sharif will achieve anything. But mark my words that Sharif will be conned like Cabdullahi Sheik Xasan and Mohamed iman.
To crush Afbiijo, you need to make a deal that limits his influence. Without the Ethiopian withdrawl, it is more difficult.
THere are only 6 months left on Bush's term and with a new administration, a new Somali policy will come. The funding for Addis Ababa dries up and that is when the back of the TFG is broken.
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Call the TFG whatever you want, they are still the better alternative to the incapable "opposition" groups.AbdiWahab252 wrote:TFG = Colonial administrators who can't even make decisions for themselves without getting it approved by their President Gabre
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RebelLion,
Talk to me when the TFG can assert its independence.
When I hear a TFG official criticize the Ethiopian heavy handiness and slaughter of innocence, i may begin to believe they are an independent group.
Look at Karzai, he criticizes the American's when they kill innocents, Al Maliki does the same.
Yet the TFG refuses to speak about Ethiopian atrocities.
Talk to me when the TFG can assert its independence.
When I hear a TFG official criticize the Ethiopian heavy handiness and slaughter of innocence, i may begin to believe they are an independent group.
Look at Karzai, he criticizes the American's when they kill innocents, Al Maliki does the same.
Yet the TFG refuses to speak about Ethiopian atrocities.
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RebelLion wrote:Call the TFG whatever you want, they are still the better alternative to the incapable "opposition" groups.AbdiWahab252 wrote:TFG = Colonial administrators who can't even make decisions for themselves without getting it approved by their President Gabre
what better alternative dawlad bakahara soo dhaafii laha come this is emberresing war habargedirtu ma siidaasay uu xoog weyn yihin u cant defeat them with 50.000 Tigray troops iyo kuwa t f g ee dawlada ku sheega , Come one men After almost 2 years of fighting aya last month yidhaheen we want to talk why talk Werent yout he dawlad Maxa Djibouti ku geeye

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Who has the courage to kill Aweys? Is that little boy who killed Aidid still alive and kicking?
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They're fighting urban warfare, if this was conventional warfare it'd be over a long time ago. But the al shabab hide behind houses like cowards.The_Emperior5 wrote:RebelLion wrote:Call the TFG whatever you want, they are still the better alternative to the incapable "opposition" groups.AbdiWahab252 wrote:TFG = Colonial administrators who can't even make decisions for themselves without getting it approved by their President Gabre
what better alternative dawlad bakahara soo dhaafii laha come this is emberresing war habargedirtu ma siidaasay uu xoog weyn yihin u cant defeat them with 50.000 Tigray troops iyo kuwa t f g ee dawlada ku sheega , Come one men After almost 2 years of fighting aya last month yidhaheen we want to talk why talk Werent yout he dawlad Maxa Djibouti ku geeye

And the djbouti peace process is good for all, most sane people have realized this.
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alshabaab are fighting ayhual cadaw al islaam= tigray
Why are Ethiopians in our capital city somalia Dawlad maha Dawlad Shisheeya uu soo kiiireysta shabackeeda waxaas dawlad lama yidhaha , Sheikh xassan daahir aweys Na mujaheed Ma oggala gunimada Iyo Hilib qeydhin lugu cunno Xammar
Why are Ethiopians in our capital city somalia Dawlad maha Dawlad Shisheeya uu soo kiiireysta shabackeeda waxaas dawlad lama yidhaha , Sheikh xassan daahir aweys Na mujaheed Ma oggala gunimada Iyo Hilib qeydhin lugu cunno Xammar
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empeiror
adiga afaaraha walanweyn maxa u dex gashaa? Do you you think somaliland will get ictirifaa by supporting shieck aweys?
Somalida ayaga wey heshin wayeen, therefore outside help was needed. And the ethiopians will leave soon and have no interest to stay in somalia. Laakin adiga and other isaaqs you have ulterior motifs, you think if the fighting continues and humanitarian crissi continues there is a chance somaliland will get recognition.
adiga afaaraha walanweyn maxa u dex gashaa? Do you you think somaliland will get ictirifaa by supporting shieck aweys?
Somalida ayaga wey heshin wayeen, therefore outside help was needed. And the ethiopians will leave soon and have no interest to stay in somalia. Laakin adiga and other isaaqs you have ulterior motifs, you think if the fighting continues and humanitarian crissi continues there is a chance somaliland will get recognition.
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Are you really so naive? I figured perhaps the pro-TFG folks figured life would be better as an Ethiopian satellite state, but do you honestly believe they will just leave, and they have no ulterior motive?RebelLion wrote:And the ethiopians will leave soon and have no interest to stay in somalia.
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And you should be considered sourceful, when you are a Habar Gidir pretending to be an caadan man. So people won't see your "biased intent?"James Dahl wrote:Are you really so naive? I figured perhaps the pro-TFG folks figured life would be better as an Ethiopian satellite state, but do you honestly believe they will just leave, and they have no ulterior motive?RebelLion wrote:And the ethiopians will leave soon and have no interest to stay in somalia.
Pathetic mull.
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RebelLion wrote:empeiror
adiga afaaraha walanweyn maxa u dex gashaa? Do you you think somaliland will get ictirifaa by supporting shieck aweys?
Somalida ayaga wey heshin wayeen, therefore outside help was needed. And the ethiopians will leave soon and have no interest to stay in somalia. Laakin adiga and other isaaqs you have ulterior motifs, you think if the fighting continues and humanitarian crissi continues there is a chance somaliland will get recognition.
sxb first of all I am a somali Like ismacil cumar geele who welcomed you in his house and said come u Walanweyns and jebertis make peace in the name of somalinimo , Ta labaad sxb Ethiopianka adigu gacanta kuma haysiid They dont take orders from you they take orders from George w bush , Sxb whether Daahir aweys is emir of somalia or sheikh sharif Of Cabdilahi yey , Somaliland is offlimit ciidi ma tabaan karto jiritaankeedu wa muqadis , Somaliland recogntion kuma xidhna What happends in the bakara Or what happends in Asmara , Mafahantay
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