When did your family migrate to Mogadishu?

[ciyaal_warta]

neve migrated im reer wardhiigley 4 life both ma parents were born there so was i 8)

[The_Patriot]

X playa?
who do you think was diffending Xamar in the 15 th century against portugueese?

[The_Emperior5]

The other dark hords came later, one old Ashraaf dude put it this way:

" before us original reer Hamar we use to eat our food while laying in our beds, at first the Majeerteen came so we had to sit up eating, then the Hawiye came so start eating standing up, then the Daarood refugees from all over came and we start eating while running"

You can read all that and more in the book by the Arab historian Sharif Ayadaruus Ali Al Aydaruus in his book " Bughyat al-amaal fii taariikh al somaal" published in 1954 by the Italian colonial goverment making it the first book of history for southern Somalia.

wabay dhiibeen dadkii asharaafta aha eeh nassabka aaha

bantuga xammer shalay ayuu yimi balcad iyo wardhigley ayuu demeerkiisa ugu maydhii jiiray

[X.Playa]

Not even all of the darkies Abgaal were allowed to live in Xamar before 1920, only the sub-clan of the Imam, the few reer Xamar applied a strict aparthied like system in Xamar, all of them southern Negriods be it Hawiye, Baantu, Daarood or what ever , were deported by sun sit from the city after delivering milk and meat etc in the morning.

[Shirib]

Xamar unuka lex

The Omani Empire was a network of ports, held together more by shared commercial interests than by a state structure (Cooper 1977: 32) Guillan described Sa'id's authority over Banadir as 'seasonal'; it came and went with the monsoons when his ships were able to anchor (Guillan, 1856: III, 185). As far as Muqdisho was concerned, everybody knew the real power lay with Yusuf of the Geledi. Those merchants from Europe, Asia and America congregated in Zanzibar who directed their attention to the mysterious Sultan who controlled the inland trade routes.
Source: SOMALI SULTANATE. The Geledi City-State over 150 Years by: Luling, Virginia

Thus, by the latter part of the 19th century, the coastal and hinterland traditions had merged, and the centre of pressure had swung from the coast to the interior. In the north the ancient ports of Berbera and Seylac, much reduced in prosperity and importance, were now controlled by Somali nomads, and the position of the old ports of Marka, Baraawe, and Mogadishu was very similar. These towns had all been penetrated by various Somali clans, and the dominant political influence became that exercised by the Geledi clan ruling the lower reaches of the Shabeelle. Commercial and political links that provided an opening for European infiltration had, however, also been forged between these two coasts and the outside world. The southern coastal towns, on the other hand, acknowledged the overlordship of the sultan of Zanzibar, although the latter's authority was slight in comparison with that exercised locally by the Geledi Somali.
Source: Encyclopedia Britanica

"The port of Mogadishu (Mogadiscio) was practically autonomous as C. Guillian noted the Zanzibar's Sultans like his customs came and went with the monsoons. The hinterlands of Mogadhishu was controlled by the Geledi clan, who's sultan contracted alliances with many other clans in the region between Shabelle and Juba river. Through much of the century, the Geledi alliance dominated the ivory trade that ran from Luk (Lugh) on the upper Jubba to Mogadishu; the Geledi sultan also collected tribute from the agricultural clans, along the Shabelle river as far south as Brava. Only the powerful Biimaal clan situated in the hinterlands of Marka succeeded in resisting Geledi hegemony. The Sultan of Zanzibar sought to construct a fort in Mogadishu in 1870 he had to obtain approval of Sultan Ahmed Yusuf of the Geledi.
Source: General History of Africa IV. Africa in the 19th Century until the 1880's edited by J.F. Ade Ajayi

" Farther south on the Benadir coast, however, the Sultan of Zanzibar claimed jurisdiction as the successor of Omani rulers. His claim was established, but was forced to share power with the local Somali rulers. The governor of the Benadir coast resided in Brava, which was therefore more firmly under Zanzibar rule. Mogadishu, on the other hand, was really controlled by the sultan of the Geledi, and minor ports were in the hands of members of other clans"
Source: The Cambridge history of Africa: from c. 1790 to c. 1870 - Page 88

"When Christopher in 1843 and Guillen in 1847 visited Mogadishu, they found it more a Somali than an Arab town. In a population of about 4,000 there were only about 30 families of Arab origin and a few Indian traders. The rest were Somali, who had established themselves in the half-ruined houses of the Portuguese and greater Arab period. Unlike the Swahili of the southward towns, who were armed, like Arabs, with sword and dagger, these Somali carried spears and bows and arrows; and though they all professed to be Moslems and should therefore be able to read the Koran, they knew little or no Arabic. Mogadishu, in fact, was virtually an outpost of a Somali kingdom with a population of some 150,000 centered in the Webi Doboi (Shabelle) country. Its real master was the Sheik at Geledi, a warrior chieftain who at need could mobilize at least 20,000 spears.
Source: East Africa and its Invaders From the Earliest Times to the Death of Seyyid Said in 1856. by: Coupland, Reginald pg 333-334

"When Guillain arrived on the Benadir in 1847, it appeared that the Geledi Sultan maintained an authority all the way to the Juba"
Source: Patterns of trade and politics in the Somali Benadir, 1840-1885 By Lee V. Cassanelli pg 57-58

"The Geledi Sultunate which, from its strategic hold on the lower Shabelle river, controlled the vital trade-routes between the coast and hinterlands in the nineteenth century, and so dominated southern Somalia."
-Social and Cultural Anthropology in Perspective page 348

[The_Patriot]

Not even all of the darkies Abgaal were allowed to live in Xamar before 1920, only the sub-clan of the Imam, the few reer Xamar applied a strict aparthied like system in Xamar, all of them southern Negriods be it Hawiye, Baantu, Daarood or what ever , were deported by sun sit from the city after delivering milk and meat etc in the morning.

X playa Somalis played a pivotal role in securing the East coast of Africa from the Portugueese encrouchment.
Were it not for Somalis , the Arab refugees would have never stayed there.

[X.Playa]

what the hell is Galadi any way?? if these people were as such ,how come we never even met a life specimen?

[Grant]

The Portugueze dominated the East African Coast for about a century and a half. This control was challenged by the Omani Sultanate after the election of Imam Nasir bin Murshid to the Imamate in 1624 AD.

Or at least that's the way the Omanis tell the story.

http://www.omantourism.gov.om/wps/porta ... S82XzZfRlQ!

[Grant]

what the hell is Galadi any way?? if these people were as such ,how come we never even met a life specimen?

I believe Shirib is Geledi. Subclan of Eelay.

[Shirib]

what the hell is Galadi any way?? if these people were as such ,how come we never even met a life specimen?

Go to Toronto and ask around I am certain there are some there

[X.Playa]

why not just say Eelaay, loool, instead of Galadi, i thought there existed a somali clan that i never knew of, Eelaay the hunterers with dogs are well known bushmen, but never rulers of anything,

[Shirib]

Grant,

We are not a sub clan of Eelaay, Eelaay and Galadi are seperate subclans of Digil y Mirifle

[Shirib]

why not just say Eelaay, loool, instead of Galadi, i thought there existed a somali clan that i never knew of, Eelaay the hunterers with dogs are well known bushmen, but never rulers of anything,

We are not Eelaay. Eelaay is a different clan from us but we are both Digil y Mirifle

[X.Playa]

shirib,

Thats the problem with Raxanweyn, nobody knows which is a clan and which isn't a sub-clan , who is who, and who is what?

[Shirib]

X Playa

Rahanweyn is actually in reference just to Mirifle. Mirifle and Rahanweyn are the samething then there is Digil.

But anyways here are the D&M clans

Digil

Geledi
Garre
Bagadi
Dabarre
Jiido
Shantacaleemood
Tunni

Mirifle/Rahanweyn: are seperated into Siyeed and Sagaal sub groups

Siyeed
Eelaay
Jiroon
Leysan
Hariin
Macalinweyne
Boqolhore (consisting the four clans of Qoomaal, Disoow, Eemid and Yalaale)
Heledi
Haroow
Waanjaal
Reer Dumaal
Garwaale

Sagaal
Hadame
Luwaay
Geelidle
Jilible
Yantaar
Hubeer
Gasaargude
Goobabweyn