Neo Salafis on Bilal Philips

[salafi_student]

Every deviated sect or every deviant accuse salafis of which they are free from. These deviant people are the inside enemies of Islam and no different to the ones who accused the prophets (saw) when the Haq came to them!

As Allah (swt) said:

"And thus have We made for every prophet an enemy from among the sinners and sufficient is your Lord as a Guide and a Helper." (Quran 25:31)

[The_Patriot]

Every deviated sect or every deviant accuse salafis of which they are free from. These deviant people are the inside enemies of Islam and no different to the ones who accused the prophets (saw) when the Haq came to them!

As Allah (swt) said:

"And thus have We made for every prophet an enemy from among the sinners and sufficient is your Lord as a Guide and a Helper." (Quran 25:31)

So the muslims are deviant while the corrupt leaders are ahlul Jannah?

[Kolombo]

So the muslims are deviant while the corrupt leaders are ahlul Jannah?

That's their position, not surprisingly of course, since they get paid by the Saudi government to cause confusion among the Muslims and discourage the masses from overthrowing corrupt governments.

[Kolombo]

@"Its not permissible to read Bilal Philips' books...." And who's saying this? Some confused Arab "Sheikh" who would rather waste his time gossiping & lying about another Muslim scholar rather than talk about something constructive & beneficial to the Muslims.

What was the Sunnah of the Prophet (saw)? If a scholar has a disagreement with another scholar, it is encouraged for the two to meet and present their arguments in a civilized manner, but here you have so-called "Sheikhs" insulting well-accomplished Sheikhs like Qardawi, Shariif C/Nur, Bakr Abu Zaid, etc. and calling them "Howling monkeys" and "Barking dogs." Where in Islam is it permitted to do so?

F*cking hypocrites!

[Enemy_Of_Mad_Mullah]

So the muslims are deviant while the corrupt leaders are ahlul Jannah?

[gurey25]

I first saw bilaal philips in a documentary about converts,
and he talked about his upbringing by athiest parents..

then i read the Evolution of Fiqh, excellent intro to the subject, i would recommend it to anyone..

why in the world would someone be against him.

his record is spotless...

this tells you allot about his enemies.

[Cawar]

Gurey..salaam and ramadan kareem.

Waryaa dhagta is qabo..waad cimri dheer tahaye.

I was just thinking about you..when I was commenting in another thread about old timers and religious debates we used to have..
And as soon as I posted ..boom..I saw your name..what a coincidence.

[American Salafi]

Gurey

Akhi no, his record is not "spotless". First of all, as muslims we make mistakes and the best of the people that make mistakes are those that repent from it. Bilal philips is not a scholar in any shape or form. I think we all can agree to that. But you can concerned him to be some knowlegdable. The issue is what did the scholars say about Bilal Philips. I can't really stated all his mistakes but here are a few.

Number one is that when someone enters into a mistake he or she has to return from it. If they are stubborn on their mistakes then it becomes Wajib(requried) to advise the people against him for him not just being stubborn but also spreading his mistakes and misunderstandings.

Bilal Philips might look like a cool dude and so on but if you examine some major issues were the people of Ahlu Sunnah have agreed upon, then this individual clearly goes against the correct understanding.

1. Bilal Philips wrote a book on Tawheed called Kitab at-Tawheed. In this book there were numerous errors in which the scholar refuted him on. But thats cool, people make mistakes.

2. Going against the advise of the scholars, Bilal philips associates and works with the people of Innovation. This is a major mistake and enters into Minhaj(methodology). Very dangerous.

3. Adding these points together, Bilal philips has gone out of his way to be stubborn and continue on his errors. So to protect the people from misguidance, people of Knowledge have to warn and also make clear the mistakes he has.

Some of you might ask why can't you advise the brother. You might not hear it but the people of knowledge have been advising him for awhile now.
Jazakallah.

[gurey25]

Gurey..salaam and ramadan kareem.

Waryaa dhagta is qabo..waad cimri dheer tahaye.

I was just thinking about you..when I was commenting in another thread about old timers and religious debates we used to have..
And as soon as I posted ..boom..I saw your name..what a coincidence.

Ramadaan kareem walaal and to all of you in the tread.
bro i just came to have a look at SNEt.. i recently came back from japan.(no surprise there)
and i havent logged into to SNet for 2 months or so..
lol.

dont feel like one now, but i think since this is ramadaan lets refrain from qabiil debates and have religous ones instead, this way some people will soak in some knowledge.

[Salahuddiin]

American Salafi

Sounds very dangerous!

What about a guy who takes away parts of Allah's religion and replaces them with something he sees is better? And not once or twice but permanently and he also enforces that with power, just in case if there are people who believe that Allah is al Haakim and want to do all things according to holy sharica.

He also has no sense of al walaa wal baraa eventhough culamaa say that it is essential part of our religion. He is good friend with some of the greatest enemies of Islam: USA, Russia, India etc.. and his foreign policy is not based on the issue of religion even a little, or even to the fact if this country is oppressing muslims and killing them. This is not important at all. And no matter what kind of disasters happens in a poor muslim country anywhere in the world, they get no help or if they do it's some ridiculous sum. But when disaster strikes at kuffar, no matter if they are the richest people in the world (Hurricane Katrina), be sure that millions start flowing.

Also this guy steals from muslims, and not few cookies, but billions of dollars. And he keeps that wealth within the family and also sells those stolen goods well under market prices to kuffar who are fighting against muslims, just to please them.

And he is doing something that is kufr that takes out of religion, or at least that's what the consensus of culamaa say about it. He has allied with the kuffar and helps them to fight muslims and Islam all around the world. He helps them militarily, financially, ideologically and giving them all information they need.

And also in his aqiida there might be something wrong. He makes conferences with the representatives of kuffar and mushirikin in order to bring all of them together based on that what they all have in common and of course to unite with the mushrikin and other kuffar against all those muslims who believe in pinnacle of Islam, jihad. And this meeting is no less than kufr.

And we could add dozens of similar things to this list.....

Oh, is this guy a king? Then islamic way to deal with it is to close our minds and deny our eyes and ears and make ourselves believe that all of this is cheap propaganda, even when all this can be found from the first page of government owned newspapers. And even if this was true, these things are only minor issues and so small and insignificant that they can't even be called mistakes because king is always free of those. And who dares to think differently is no less than khariji.

[fisabililah]

Assalamu a'leykum,

This is the reply of Bilal Philips against those who attack him.

http://www.bilalphilips.com/bilal_pages ... iew&id=279

[The_Patriot]

do you guys Know Abu Khadija?
this guy is not a scholar nor did he graduate from Any Saudi University.
this guy works as a freelance scholar with no back ground of any scholary work he just opens books belonging to Fawzan and Parrots it.

Abu Khadijah is the Imam of Salafiya mosque in Birmingham UK. He is used to attacking men who are more learned than him.

they the Salafiya aljadida as I call them also have a Mosque in Brixton London. and many other places around.
Most of their recruits are EX-convicts,reverts and docile youth.

[salafi_student]

"O you who believe! obey Allah and obey the Messenger and those in authority from among you; then if you quarrel about anything, refer it to Allah and the Messenger, if you believe in Allah and the last day; this is better and very good in the end." (Quran 4.59)


Less talk, more evidence

[The_Patriot]

"O you who believe! obey Allah and obey the Messenger and those in authority from among you; then if you quarrel about anything, refer it to Allah and the Messenger, if you believe in Allah and the last day; this is better and very good in the end." (Quran 4.59)


Less talk, more evidence

dude dont cut and paste Quraanic verses to suite your propaganda.
But does your Amirul Mumineen understand this verse?
'WAman lam yaxkum bimaa anzalalahu faulaika humul fasiqun'
'Waman lam yaxkum bimaa anzalalahu faulaika humul Kafiruun'
Tell me a reason to follow your Amir? nor give him allegiance

The day I became suscpicious of you guys is when you started propagating the Catholificfication of Islam.

they started defaming Xasan Albana, then followed Sayid Qutb then Abu a3laa almaududi....
today they are trying to finish of any upcomming bright scholars students like Bilal Philips? Where is this jokes ending?
they want us to refrain from attaining knowledge and wallow in Ignorance.

Why do you call your self Salafi student in the 1st place? Better call yourself Dalabul Cilmi.
You try to call yourselves Salafis which even prominent scholars refrain from using those words.

'Wala tuzaku anfusakim.......ila akhir aya.'

One thing is I hate hypocites who would look for very microscopic faults of muslim scholars, students in an effort to defame, cast doubt as well as to make takfiir out of him.
While if you backtrack those people who are doing this you will be shocked to find out that they are freelancers who have no knowledge nor did they qualify from any Islamic School

What they do is open Mosques that are used to jester on muslim scholars and maker vediolink Duruus from a Sheikh stationed in Saudi.....This Sheikh is then asked about qestions by this reckless people. this qestions are very biased and the naive Sheikh gives his Fatwa on So and so.. Then immediatly they capitalise on this and produce extensive publications with the wilful intetion of damaging the reputation of the people who work day and night enlightening this Ummah.

[salafi_student]

^^ You have "Kalimatul Xaq yuriidu bihaa baatil!"

In reality I do not speak to Takfiriis, I don't give them Salaam, I do not associate my self with them. Due to their hunger to spill Muslim bloods by means of revolting rulers and to reach their selfish will to seize power. (unless they repent)

So before you come out here do a little research and I'll be kind to point out few areas you can brows:

Books; Ibnukathir - Tafsiir
Umuhatu sita : books of ahadith / with interpretations of Salafi scholars
Ibnutaymiyyahs Aqiidah books
Dhaxawi's Aqiida book
Usuuluthalaatha by Sh. M Abdulwahab.

Recent scholars; ( Binbaz, Utheimeen, Al-bani, Muqbil ) Rahimuhulah and their students.


Bye!