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AbdiWahab252 wrote:Ismahan,

Abayo, adiga ba oog. Nafta ka waran ?

Abaaydaa miyaa mise adeer baad utahay?

Gurey,

As corrupt & un-Islamic as the Ottomons were in the early 20th century, a greedy warlord with the assistance, more like the servant of the British empire had no authority to rebel against their rule. My beef isn't even with Ibn Saud family, but with a sect that call themselves Salafi/Madkhali who are the mouth-piece for the royal family, spewing lies & confusion, hiding under the banner of Islam, while they work to further the policies of the Ibn Saud family.

i do not disagree with you, i was just pointing out that rebellion against the ottomans after 1909 was justified
becuase it was no longer muslim lead, it became a turkish empire ruled by unislamic wetern oriented freemasons...

The last khalifa was abdulhamid all the others after him were just puppets...

the khalifate died in 1909 not in 1920..
kemal attaturk just presided over the funeral.

isnt it funny how Somalis are expert on what destroyed the Khalifat and the House of Al Saud as well as world politic yet cant bring themselves to see eye to eye on issues like...er,..well, a simple maamul!

thats becuase governing somalis is allot more difficult than governing anyone else..
most nations are more or less domesticated.

Salafi is a self hating waste.Even in ramadan he brings nothing but negative news about his own people, what is the point of this creature.He hides his agenda under a wicked salafi smile..

[quote="gurey25"]thats becuase governing somalis is allot more difficult than governing anyone else..
most nations are more or less domesticated.[/quote]


I see.

So what wee need is a zoo. Not a country nor maamul, so why fight the Ethiopians.

you will first need to exterminate a good chunk of the population before you can put them in zoos,
culling as they call it, sometimes it is natural and the species are endangered..

somalia is a patch of wilderness, like the ngorogongo crater, surrounded by farms
you are one of the sheep on those nieghbouring farms..

you are domesticated , you depend on the state for your identity, your livelyhood and existance
while for the somali the state was usually an alien entity a nuisance..
if your state fails and collapses, you will be vulnerable sheep, while for us, it was small bump on the road.

gurey25 wrote:
the Saud clan is different they opposed and rebelled against their rightfull khalifa from the late 1700s.

gurey25

Who led this rebellion militarily and who was the spiritual leader of this rebelion? Why was the khlaifa "rightful"?

Kolombo's agenda is to protect ONLF a secular and tribalist group, he supports them for tribal reasons and all ONLF supporters think if Somalia returns to peace, then the Ethiopians will be free to wipe out the secularist tribalist ONLF.

What is the difference between Salafi jadiid and Salafi takfiri? Both are Wahabis who split up into sects.

American sufi at least we are not faggots like you reer Xamar.
No wonder Indocade f*cks your lady.

The_Patriot wrote:American sufi at least we are not faggots like you reer Xamar.
No wonder Indocade f*cks your lady.

The_Patriot

Come on buddy don't resort to cussing. The writing is on the wall. You dudes support ONLF only to gain legitimacy and victory and the only way to do so is to bog the Ethiopian troops down in Somalia. Your priority is ONLF to succeed and not Somalia to have peace, Admit it.

American-Suufi wrote:

The_Patriot wrote:American sufi at least we are not faggots like you reer Xamar.
No wonder Indocade f*cks your lady.

The_Patriot

Come on buddy don't resort to cussing. The writing is on the wall. You dudes support ONLF only to gain legitimacy and victory and the only way to do so is to bog the Ethiopian troops down in Somalia. Your priority is ONLF to succeed and not Somalia to have peace, Admit it.

Dude use common sense and not your @ss to reason. Ogaden needs as much peace as Somalia.To get peace in Ogaden you need to 1st kick out Ethios out of Somalia.
And yes I do support my peoples plight to liberate their land from oppression so whats your reasoning? That I should hate/forsake my peoples plight and concentrate on Somalia.

[quote="The_Patriot"/quote]
Dude use common sense and not your @ss to reason. Ogaden needs as much peace as Somalia.To get peace in Ogaden you need to 1st kick out Ethios out of Somalia.
And yes I do support my peoples plight to liberate their land from oppression so whats your reasoning? That I should hate/forsake my peoples plight and concentrate on Somalia.[/quote]

Why doesn't your "Amiir" Turki take over ONLF and turn it into an Al-Shabab movement instead of ONLF being run as a secular tribalist organization? Why is he involved in Kismayo Somali tribal disputes and blesses a secular tribal movement like ONLF? Why is he hiding in Dhobley when he is no where near the Ethiopian army? This how it works, keep the Ethiopians bogged down in Somalia and the ONLF will succeed. Tribal allegiance over Somalia's interests.

Horta why are you concerned with Ogaden? Why dont you form your own organisation to liberate your land/people from Hawiye? or you expect the Xabashi to liberate the land for you.