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Re: Sh. Hamza Yusuf: Proof Of Determination.

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 1:19 pm
by SahanGalbeed
These little stupid wannabes , get on my nerves man ! :lol:

Re: Sh. Hamza Yusuf: Proof Of Determination.

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 1:27 pm
by ToughGong
Sahan easy on the brother he's just ignorant Quoting others without full context It's well known what his advice to Bush was

Re: Sh. Hamza Yusuf: Proof Of Determination.

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 1:29 pm
by SahanGalbeed
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Re: Sh. Hamza Yusuf: Proof Of Determination.

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 1:50 pm
by suga_n_spice
Mashallah, I love sheikh hamza yusef. I haven't watched his muxadaro's in ages!

btw, I heard his mentors were suufi, is that true? :o

Re: Sh. Hamza Yusuf: Proof Of Determination.

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 2:23 pm
by Kolombo
suga-n-spice,

Some of his mentors were Sufi, such as Sh.Murabit al-Haaj in Morocco:

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Yusuf spent four years studying in the United Arab Emirates and elsewhere in the Middle East. Later he traveled to West Africa and studied in Mauritania, Medina, Algeria, and Morocco under such scholars as Sheikh Murabit al Haaj; Sheikh Baya bin Salik, head of the Islamic court in Al-'Ain, United Arab Emirates; Sheikh Muhammad Shaybani, Mufti of Abu Dhabi; Sheikh Hamad al-Wali; and Sheikh Muhammad al-Fatrati of Al Azhar University in Cairo, Egypt[citation needed]. After more than a decade abroad, he returned to the United States and earned degrees in nursing from Imperial Valley College and religious studies at San Jose State University. In 1996, Yusuf co-founded the Hayward, California-based Zaytuna Institute, dedicated to the revival of Islamic Sciences and the preservation of traditional teaching methods.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamza_Yusuf

Re: Sh. Hamza Yusuf: Proof Of Determination.

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 2:26 pm
by suga_n_spice
Jazzakallah, for telling K. I wonder though, how influential is/was this to him and his lectures? :?

Re: Sh. Hamza Yusuf: Proof Of Determination.

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 2:31 pm
by Kolombo
He never claims to be a Sufi and I've never detected Sufi ideologies in his lectures, but he does claim to be an admirer of Sh. Al-Ghazali who was a famous Sufi sheikh. I've his 40 hadith narratives by Sh. Nawawi and everything he says is backed up by Sahih hadiths.

Also, some of the scholars he studied under e.g. Sheikh Muhammad al-Fatrati of Al-Azhar University are not Sufi. Listen to him with a cautious ear as you would any other Sheikh.

Re: Sh. Hamza Yusuf: Proof Of Determination.

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 2:34 pm
by suga_n_spice
That's what I've always done. Thanks!


Btw, I'm listening to tafsiir in english, but I see myself not compeletely understanding :oops:
I'm more comfortable in Somali, do you know of any websites that tafsir the quran in somali?

this is where I'm listening now.... http://www.quranexplorer.com

Re: Sh. Hamza Yusuf: Proof Of Determination.

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 2:42 pm
by Kolombo
Tafsiirka Qur'aanka by Sh. Cumar Faarooq:

http://www.qorahay.com/tafsiir.htm

:up:

Re: Sh. Hamza Yusuf: Proof Of Determination.

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 2:44 pm
by The_Patriot
Kolombo wrote:Sh. Hamza Yusuf for those of you who don't know him:

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....was born as Mark Hanson in Walla Walla, Washington and was raised in Northern California in a Greek Orthodox family, the son of a US academic father, veteran of World War II, and activist mother. At the age of 17, in 1977, Hanson converted to Islam in Santa Barbara, California, after having a near-death experience in a car accident which led him to read the Qur'an and eventually become a Muslim.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamza_Yusuf


Hamza yusuf :down:
I used to like his lectures and speeches but no more.
He is a sufee and does alot of tawil on quranic and Hadith texts.

Re: Sh. Hamza Yusuf: Proof Of Determination.

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 2:46 pm
by suga_n_spice
Jazzakumullah K

Re: Sh. Hamza Yusuf: Proof Of Determination.

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 2:48 pm
by Kolombo
Patriot,

He's all right, Yusuf Islam is a major Sufi, never saw Hamza Yusuf claiming to be one. My policy is take what is good, leave what is questionable/controversial.

suga-n-spice,

Here is English Qur'an translation by JD Hall, he's very good:

http://www.aswatalislam.net/DisplayFile ... _the_Quran

Re: Sh. Hamza Yusuf: Proof Of Determination.

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:03 pm
by American Salafi
Kolombo

Subhanallah. Now your spreading Sufism. Now you become a sufi lover after getting tired of insulting Saudi Arabia. This Innovator Hamza Yusuf and his Zaytune Institute are propagators of Sufism.

Even Yusuf Estes refuted him.

http://www.allaahuakbar.net/individual_ ... _wrong.htm

Re: Sh. Hamza Yusuf: Proof Of Determination.

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:06 pm
by The_Patriot
Hamza Yusuf after 9/11 changed completely.
Thats the sunah of sufis.
I heard him saying that the urine of the prophet is not najis... WTF