Will Abdullahi Yusuf Step-down and Take Care of His Liver?

[Somaliweyn]

Voltage,

Are you prepared to defend your claims seriously? I'll clarify the ignorance and clear bias in your post in due time.

[Voltage]

If you have something to say, say it.

Don't tell us you have something to say.

[Somaliweyn]

Unlike you I dont just talk nonsense. I think before I say something, in order not to utter silly things like you.

You should take example and revise the nonsense you wrote.

Anyways, I'll post my view and how history went in contrast to your propaganda history that was written during Barre's dictatorship rule.

[Voltage]

Like I said, if you have something to say, say it.

I responded to a question. You called it out. Now I want you to tell me what about my response is debatable.

It does not have to be a challenge but I am interested to know.

I already know where you are coming from. Your problem is not with what I wrote about Siad Barre nor Abdirashiid but the fact that I fittingly and accurately designated Adan Cadde last in terms of "accomplishments'.

You want to refute...by all means go ahead.

[Somaliweyn]

Actually it is my view towards the dictator.

Ofcourse my analysis will incorporate the achievements of the civilian government of 1960-1969.

And will discuss the policies of Pres. Sharmarke (AUN) and Aden (AUN).


PS:

I'm at work now, so it might take some time.

[Voltage]

Actually it is my view towards the dictator.

Amazing how we overlook our biases. Clearly I will cease taking you seriously but am interested to see your response.

Please, the next time you respond let it be your actual response.

[Somaliweyn]

Actually it is my view towards the dictator.

Amazing how we overlook our biases.

This is amusing, coming from your mouth!


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PS: Wasn't MSB a dictator by every definition of the word? Are you denying this obvious fact?

[Voltage]

Addan Cadde was in power for two years.

Siad Barre was in power for 21 years and is practically synonymous with modern Somalia, good or bad.

Yet you "will" argue Addan Cadde has more achievements, even good, to his name then Siad Barre.

What an objective and brilliant mind you.

I'm done kiddo!

[Somaliweyn]

Ofcourse you're done.

I remember what AW said yesterday, it was in the sort of ''you start something and afterwards ran away blaming others''

Also, just wait. Dont put words in my mouth. I will discuss your post and the ignorance and bias that spills from it.

[Voltage]

Bye!

[Twisted_Logic]

Addan Cadde was in power for two years.

Siad Barre was in power for 21 years and is practically synonymous with modern Somalia, good or bad.

Yet you "will" argue Addan Cadde has more achievements, even good, to his name then Siad Barre.

What an objective and brilliant mind you.

I'm done kiddo!

Voltage,

Is that what you know about Somali history? That Aden Abdulle (AUN) only ruled for 2 years? And then you wonder why people don't take you serious

[RebelLion]

Voltage

Out of this list of somali presidents and dictators which do you think was the best?: Abdirashid Ali Shermake, Aden Cadde, Abdullahi Yusuf, Siade barre?

1. Afbiijo is not in the list. You might as well include Cabdiwasim, Caydiid, Ali Mahdi and the assorted members of the Loser's Club.

Coming from an objective analysis, whether it is because he ruled for 21 years or not, clearly Siad Barre's legacy and his achievements, even just looking at the "good", outweigh the combined achievements of the others multiplied by infinity.

With respect to objectivity my list goes:

1. Mohammed Siad Barre
2. Abdirashiid Ali shermake
3. Aden Cadde

Aden Cadde in his tenure accomplished naught, and I mean naught. But he was a fair and decent man who was also the first modern African ruler to step down democratically.

Abdirashiid Ali Shermake tried to reform the country in order to make it an effective post-colonial African state but under is tenure, not necessarily because it his fault, Somalia became the most corrupt country in the world, over a hundred tribal parties came into existence, he failed to write the Somali script despite the determination by the academics, failed to lobby on behalf of the NFD, and failed to tackle Ethiopia's cross border raids into Somalia. Yet he tried and was also a fair and decent man.

Siad Barre is synonymous with modern Somalia, the good as well as the bad. That really says it all.

Figures, at least you pretended to be objective. Most of Barre's achievements have been exaggerated, and he's dictatorial regime only looks good compared to today. But you fail to mention that somalia predicament today is a direct result of Barre's policies. I will say this though, Siade Barre(AUN) was a man who knew how to manipulate people and groups hence why he stayed in power for so long. And in that respect he was a good leader, even if he's economic, social, political policies were corrupt. The ogaden war failed miserable mostly because of barre's bumbling leadership. How can you justify putting him as number one on your list?

If you want an objective look at somalia under he's regime, read From bad policy to chaos, I remember you saying you were freshmen economics student, so that should be of interest to you.

The somali youth league, aden cadde and abdirashid cali shermarke were responsible for uniting somali tribes, creating a unified somali government and building a strong somali army. Barre was given a united somalia and in 21 years was able to destroy and create animosity between somali clans.

Abdullahi Yusuf's task as president is more difficult, and depending on how things turn out he could very well be one of somalia's greatest president.

[Somaliweyn]

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[sadeboi]

So far none of you have actually addressed what voltage has presented. If you will mention the actual achievements of Aden Cadde [aun] and Abdirishid [aun], once you do then can we compare with President Maxamed Siyaad Barre [aun]. Lakiin the utterance of "you just wait I have something" and "Siyad was this and that" with even explaining how won't do you guys any good!

[Voltage]

Rest assured I am coming. The SQL error is what I am trying to fix.

Rebel, you make yourself look worse then a laughingstock.