Formula 4.5 Isaaq vs Dir& Digil&Mirifle whats the deal?

[Executive]

Shirib

In 1956 Hizbia Digil and Mirifle was the second largest somali political party, SYL was the largest. So they used to be pretty big in the political scene,

[suldaan300]

Suldaan,

Ur right D&M is/was weaker then the other groups cause they got a late start. While Isaaq, Hawiye and Darood started in the 80's to make their own movement D&M started in 95.

That being said numbers wise we are a big clan and will be represented that way buddy. D&M is bigger than Isaaq. Infact I am willing to bet Digil y Mirifle is right now the largest clan inside Somalia.

shirib you niccas are large I recognise that now ( wikipedia

but you shouldn't trust the hutus

fuk al shabab and problems related to mudug.

there is no legal resistence in Somalia right now
no real jihad.

its just a mix of xaasiidnimo iyo qabiil wars in an anarchic state.


If I were to propose a new formula it would be

D&M
Isaaq
Hawiya

and split the dooros because in reality as the civil war showed they dont act as a confederacy. dhullos and warsangeli are very small compared to majeerteen.
marehan will become like bantus in the next 50 years down south.

ogaaden is a ethiopian clan.

So I propose
0.5 for Darood with majeertens leading the rest
there is no sane reason to give darood the presidency nor Hawiya in a interim government.
if you guys play your cards right you could take that post Insha Allah.
Isaaqs are out of the game long time ago ...

so here it is 2009 formula

D&M 40 %
Hawiya 40 %
darood 15 %
others 5 % you know shaanshi people and stuff

[Shirib]

Shirib

In 1956 Hizbia Digil and Mirifle was the second largest somali political party, SYL was the largest. So they used to be pretty big in the political scene,

Yea I know, the only reason people act as if we are a minority is cause we really didn't take part in the civil war.

I mean SSDF, SNM, USC were all made in the 80's. The first D&M armed rebel group (RRA) was made in 1995, and the first part of the decade Mirifle were too busy trying to find food because of starvation to care about anything else

[GENERAL_SNM]

Executive adidu your hoping somalia gets you back las anood.

What the last government did was under estimate Isaaq's and lost. Watch history repeat it self.

James If Isaaq's were in the south we would own the place.

[Executive]

GENERAL_SNM


Isaaqs have never harmed me.

[abdi ilyas]

anlike D%M Isaaq are respected by the bosses(hawiye) in south. this not personal believes. but truth.

[suldaan300]

SNM was a pioneer and the supplier of

USC
USP
SDM
SNF

came all later

SNM took the burden of fighting majority of Siad Barres army and we dislodged them completely by 1990 a year before topple of afweyne.
USC and SDM was just babies doing the 10 % job in Xamar.

[GENERAL_SNM]

GENERAL_SNM


Isaaqs have never harmed me.

Sxb I'm not being personal so dont take it that way.

[peace08]

executive let me ask you a simple one

which tribe is largest dhulbahante or habar jeclo

Please Bro, They are the same size as Rear Dahir or Ahmed Farax, it would not be fair to compare them to four sons of Shiek isaaq.

sxb im not that into lets knock other qabils to make our qabil look good business. i dont want diss habar jeclo cos i have lots of relations with them and do have respect for them. but ur comments about dhulbahante being the same size as Rear Dahir or Ahmed Farax is offence cos you now that is not true. i dont know really know who is the largest between dhulbahante and habar jeclo. nor do i really care about which is larger. as for your comment saying that it is unfair to dhulbahante compare with four sons of Shiek isaaq, your right even though you meant it as insult, in the since that harti and habar jeclo are equals interms being the subclans of darood & isaaq. but than god that dhulbahante as subclan of a subclan still had the ability to contribute to somalia history, culture and literature if not more then at least the some as the entire tribes of of isaaq & hawiye respectively.

[Starscream]

Look at these laangaab of their tribes talk about size and power. How cute.

Starscream approves this confidence building discussion for its participants.

[suldaan300]

how many of you think its wrong to classify Isaaq as Dir?

peace08

dhulbahante and ogaade formed under leadership of marehan the unholy alliance known as Dheg deer... you know?

all your political posts , houses , property , poetry came to live because of nepotism.
just like that stupid stature of Mad mullah in Xamar.

starscream I bet if there was a clan war in east Somaliland Garowe would be overun by Habar Jeclo today. Wether they are under JSL flag today or tribe flag tomorrow still same men who are twice as strong as you

not to mention Habar Yonis those guys will eat you alive from Danood iyo Wardheer ilaa Bosaaso

[dawwa9]

Digir and Muufo are dirty people, I don't consider them Somali at all. They are the same as Jareers, Cad-Cads and others.

Even their mentality, very submissive disgusting poor people.

Isaaq is more significant than them.

[suldaan300]

dawwa being the smartest majeerten here.

dont you think its wrong to stamp Isaaq as Dir clan in the book.
when clearly the other Dir didnt feel comfortable with Isaaq after we won in 1990

but bro easy on the attack
I have yet to meet D&M , but I like Shirib he is very intelligent.

I just hope he realizes Hutus is to blame just as much as A/Y for the mess.

[Voltage]

Digir and Muufo are dirty people, I don't consider them Somali at all. They are the same as Jareers, Cad-Cads and others.

Even their mentality, very submissive disgusting poor people.

Isaaq is more significant than them.

And you are what? A half-Oromo reer Bicidyahan badow from the desert. Get real nigga ma Cusmaan Maxmuud baad is mooday waadigii boosaaso noo xayaysiinayaye

[Executive]

suldaan300


What peace was emplying is if you read a Somali history book half of it will be about Dhulbahante, which is true.