Breaking News: SHILLING Supports AL SHABAAB

[Shirib]

Shirib,

I sense you have your own agenda here so good luck...I stated the obvious but you only see things through clans lens. I support the TFG because it's trying restore Somalia's dignity back and fighting Indha-Cade and Co. at the same time. And likewise I support Kismaayo new leadership because the residents there are happy with it since the brutal militias that suppress not just one group but everyone there has been routed out.

Btw...Every warlord at onetime served as a minster of the TFG, the game has since been redrawn and one by one the warlords have been sacked, so like Mohamed Dheere, Hiraale is history. You know Hiraale arrogantly refused to recognize TFG so let's be clear about the past and present. From the TFG prospective Kismaayo was never under the TFG's leadership so who is in control makes no difference really...

Al Shabaab the folks who you are against took over Kismayo and u support them because u think its good for you clan.

Yea Hiiraale is horrible and Mohamed Dheere and his goons in Xamar are respectable and shouldn't be fought.

No its not at one time or another. Every warlord who has been wreeking havoc in Somalia since 91 some even before is in the TFG, and thats all the TFG is the men who have been destroying Somalia.

But please continue with the justifications

I'm enjoying this

[Son_of_Somalia]

Shilling waa nacas.

[QansaGabeyle]

Dadka waxay isku dayi inay kaa dhaadhacshaan caadi ma aha. Listening to people like Shilling and Somaliboqor is just like watching Fox News wallahi.

Besides, the for the TFG..is a good thing that most of the somali cities have some sort of law and order..
Its good for the image, no matter who controls that city..be them shabob or Hiirale and co.

Over 20,000 people dying, hundreds of thousands being displaced and dying of starvation in squalid camps all over the country because of the TFG is defended while condemning the administration of a city where less than 20 people died in the whole year of 2007 and 2008 under this administrations rule. This is what happens when people attempt to rationalize their support for organizations for tribal reasons.

If the TFG cared about its image, all the damn ministers would resign, Cabdullahi yusuf would voluntarily go to the Hague to be tried for the crimes he committed against the Somali people and the TFG as we know it would be dismantled by its members. The TFG should leave Mogdishu so peace can return because this useless organization has brought nothing but misery to the people of Mogdishu and since you are supporters of "popular uprisings", then practice what you preach and make a conscious decision now to support the people of Mogadishu's choice to remove the TFG from their city and free themselves from this brutal regime.

[Somalian_Boqor]

Dadka waxay isku dayi inay kaa dhaadhacshaan caadi ma aha. Listening to people like Shilling and Somaliboqor is just like watching Fox News wallahi.

Besides, the for the TFG..is a good thing that most of the somali cities have some sort of law and order..
Its good for the image, no matter who controls that city..be them shabob or Hiirale and co.

Over 20,000 people dying, hundreds of thousands being displaced and dying of starvation in squalid camps all over the country because of the TFG is defended while condemning the administration of a city where less than 20 people died in the whole year of 2007 and 2008 under this administrations rule. This is what happens when people attempt to rationalize their support for organizations for tribal reasons.

If the TFG cared about its image, all the damn ministers would resign, Cabdullahi yusuf would voluntarily go to the Hague to be tried for the crimes he committed against the Somali people and the TFG as we know it would be dismantled by its members. The TFG should leave Mogdishu so peace can return because this useless organization has brought nothing but misery to the people of Mogdishu and since you are supporters of "popular uprisings", then practice what you preach and make a conscious decision now to support the people of Mogadishu's choice to remove the TFG from their city and free themselves from this brutal regime.

Your a one sided Mother Focker bastard baatahy. Why don't you just fock off you idioit.

People were dying in Mogadishu before the TFG even entered the city. Our people can no longer live in anarchy.

[QansaGabeyle]

People were dying in Mogadishu before the TFG even entered the city.

Mogadishu was peaceful before the TFG came there. Since 1991, there hasn't been any mass displacement of Mogadishu population until the TFG and Ethiopia invaded the city and illegally occupied it.

Our people can no longer live in anarchy.

True! And TFG is only contributing to this anarchy. So it needs to go, don't you agree.

[Somalian_Boqor]

The Truth of the matter is the International community has recognized the Major Qabils in South Somalia as being incompetent. That is why Abduallhi Yusuf was selected to deal with you and bring you animals out of anarchy.

I personally want Abduallhi Yusuf to resign because you people in the South are focking animals that don't deserve Yusuf leadership. The International community has seen what he was done with Puntland and how he brought security peace iyo prosperity and they wanted him to do the same for you people.

You got more seats than the whole of Majeerteen in the TFG parliament. 14 focking seats while we got 12. So if you people don't believe in these governments leave it!!!

But for crying out loud don't come on somalinet and accuse people of supporting an equally shared government for tribal reasons. When you support a true war-lord that hasn't done sh!t for your people just cause he is Marehan.

[QansaGabeyle]

the International community

That is where you and I differ saaxib. I don't care for what white nations that carved up Africa only 50 years ago decide our faith will be. They never mean good and our people have decided that the TFG is no good and there is enough physical evidence for us all to see that our people did not come to this conclusion hastily. Tell me one good thing the TFG has done Mogdishu saaxib? They haven't made a single improvement to the city since they took it over from the courts.

[Somalian_Boqor]

People were dying in Mogadishu before the TFG even entered the city.

Mogadishu was peaceful before the TFG came there. Since 1991, there hasn't been any mass displacement of Mogadishu population until the TFG and Ethiopia invaded the city and illegally occupied it.

Our people can no longer live in anarchy.

True! And TFG is only contributing to this anarchy. So it needs to go, don't you agree.

The TFG is the rightful ruler of Somalia. It is the legitimate Governing body of Somalia so it is more than authorized to rule Mogadishu iyo Somalia oo dhan.

The anarchy will be forcefully brought to than end. And those who want to continue to live in anarchy must find somewhere else to live other than Somalia.

We are more than fad up with the Mooryans of Mogadishu iyo South Somalia. If Somali Unity is going to Come it must come today. If Government and rule of Law is going to return it must come today because if it does not than I can assure you it won't come tomorrow.

[Cawar]

Qansa,

You are taking my words out of context here..and getting emotional..which is not a trait you are known for..in here.

I said..without taking into consideration any other ongoing/simultaneous situation..that the Image of projecting that you are in command..gives not only comforness..but it good for the moral of your own supporters.

Now..we can go into details about every given situation and analyze it ..just to make our points..ex??

What if Hiiraale and Co. attack the city and re-capture it..just trnaslate that and equate it with all the ppl that could die, be displaced, animosties that could further become deeper..etc etc..

So ..I was being a mere (ok a little biased i nature..but not to the point that I ignore realities on the ground) spectator..trying to analyzer/strategise if you will..commenting in how I thought the TFG..could benefit from this situation, in my earlier comment..and you had a break dance over it.

[QansaGabeyle]

I didn't realize I sounded emotional. Just out of curiosity, what is it exactly I wrote above that conveys emotions?

I said..without taking into consideration any other ongoing/simultaneous situation..that the Image of projecting that you are in command..gives not only comforness..but it good for the moral of your own supporters.

I agree however I don't really see how Al Shabab taking over Kismaayo can be good for the moral of the TFG supporters even under the false assumption that Al Shabaab brought law and order to the city. Al Shabab is not the TFG so Al Shabab ruling a city like Kismaayo would not be projecting the image that the TFG is in command. Anyhow we are all Somalis after all so who are we to bullshit each other about why we support any group or person.

Besides, the for the TFG..is a good thing that most of the somali cities have some sort of law and order..
Its good for the image, no matter who controls that city..be them shabob or Hiirale and co.

[Cawar]

Ok, your emotional outburst was seen when you were talking about the 20K dead and displaced somalis..

Aside form that..I have no personal interest in who is in charge of Kismayo..i really could care less.. so long as they are not Ceyr.

As for the TFG.. its a city that they dont have to deal with..in the immediate future..but in the event they have to..then it depends who is charge of the city at that moment.

In anycase, given how unpopular(esp. with some qabils) the TFG is today and the fact that all their resources are focused mainly on Mogadishu..
They can project ..to the world..that most of somalia is in peace right now..except the capital..and by claiming that..they can get more focused support from the international community, thats targeted on Xamar.
And once they succeed to gain control of the head(the capital)..the rest will follow or will be seen as breakaway regions that need to be dealt with.

Its complicated man..tough to explain it..more than that.

[Niya]

Politics 101: There are NO permanent friends or permanent enemies, only permanent Interests.

[Shirib]

TFG warlords in Muqdisho, Muqdisho was a warlord city full of isbaaro's and what not. TFG warlords get kicked out city gets peace, law and order is established, business booms. TFG warlords come back this time with Ethiopians, city turns into chaos, tens of thousands dead, hundreds of thousands replaced.

Dhibka waa TFG

[Voltage]

Shirib, why don't you tell Shilling this is not a "chance assasination" in some street in Kismaayo.

If it was that, he could accuse Marehan clan or others.

All the reports attest the man was executed by a firing squad WITHIN the prison compound. His punishment was thus.

Now what was there about "clan alliances" taking over Kismaayo? It is funny when I go back to forum history and read this guy and people like Awe writing "MJay and Kablalax" took over Kismaayo.

Now I hope they realize there is no "MJay", no "Kablalax", this is Al Shabaab and if they supported them because they thought it was a clan grouping in their favor, well tough luck.

This guy was in the Kenyan bordering village of Kudhaa. He was the guy who lead Afgaduud's army who wanted to take on the leftovers of the ICU back in 2006 when they were driven off from power.

Even before the Ethiopians left Kismaayo to go the Jubba hawd to fight the wadaado, this guy was running before them, tripping over himself to be the first one to attack them.

Payback is a b.itch and the wadaado got revenge.

[Alluring]

Voltage,

Why are you obsessed with Kenyans?