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Goljano Lion wrote:
Cawar wrote:These "liberals and jewish funded muslims" like some1 said, dont deserve any attention IMHO.

This happened couple of yrs ago in NY..and it died down..we dont have to issue a fatwa on everything.

Surrender..its about muslims, not Islam.
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do you have any proof where it says women cannot lead prayers, i really like to see
Some Qs dont deserve answers..but let me ask you this one..

Do you have any proof where it says men can lead prayers??
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are they ismailis?
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I also have a question, does she lead em when she's on her period?

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Cawar wrote:
Goljano Lion wrote:
Cawar wrote:These "liberals and jewish funded muslims" like some1 said, dont deserve any attention IMHO.

This happened couple of yrs ago in NY..and it died down..we dont have to issue a fatwa on everything.

Surrender..its about muslims, not Islam.
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do you have any proof where it says women cannot lead prayers, i really like to see
Some Qs dont deserve answers..but let me ask you this one..

Do you have any proof where it says men can lead prayers??
don't answer question with another question, just proof me wrong, or show me facts like Hadiths which says women cannot lead prayers or a verse from the Quran which prohibits women leading prayers is that too much to ask
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Goljano Lion wrote:before you make any accusations and saying fitna and evil and blalalaal, do you have any proof or facts to back up your comments whether it is in the quran or in the Hadiths where it says women can not lead a prayer?
http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Sate ... TheScholar

Also check other related questions at bottom of link.
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Goljano Lion to start with you bro, come on! we all know women arent allowed to lead in a paryer of both men and women. they only allowed to lead in women only prayer and their voice shouldnt be allowed anough to hear from outside. these kind of stuff we should already know. is basic sunnah. we all know basic sunna's right? they also not allowed be be a leader of a country i.e president, queen, and so on. and (i heard this one from someone but dont have the proof of it) women arent allowed to be in front line in a war/jihaad :up:


cawar thanks, sorry was top sock to re-check what i wrote. :oops: is supporsed to say shocking news about muslims these days. :up:


TrophY-WifeY- sis dogs arent allowed in mosques whether the person is blind or not!! the fact that he was blind made it not compulsory for him to go. you now how men have to have to go to mosques for prayer? well not the ill, disabled and un-able ones. they dont have to go. anyways what he did was not right, in a sence you cannot correct you deeds but commiting a sin. thats just stupid. how is a sin going to give you ajar if what you doing is wrong to start with? :?

AbuShabab bro i now is the western countries that we always hear some weird sh!t happenes but is only a matter of time before it hits our countries, back home or even makka. we sould b aware of iy asap and try to warn others. :up:
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surrender wrote:AbuShabab bro i now is the western countries that we always hear some weird sh!t happenes but is only a matter of time before it hits our countries, back home or even makka. we sould b aware of iy asap and try to warn others. :up:
Trust me; we aren't gonna have Amina Waduds, gay/lesbian imams, etc in our Muslim countries. They will not be tolerated in even the most secularized Muslim countries such as Turkey. Besides, most Muslims have been radicalized by the injustices (invasions of Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia, Holocaust of Muslims, torture in Gitmo, Abu Ghraib, renditions, supporting corrupt Muslim governments, etc) of America and Europe, and it's only a matter of time before an Islamic Caliphate is established, insha'Allah.
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ina ilahi rajucuna ..

why o why ,.

walahi the truth is the west wants us to accept
their craziness society . trying to change the teaching
principle of islam ..

the only thing we can do is pray to allah
that this crazy utterness stops :up:
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There appears to be a rapidly accelerating movement this direction among both Christian and Jewish groups. Here is a chronology of when varius denominations began ordaining women:

http://www.religioustolerance.org/femclrg13.htm

I was shocked :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: to see that the eastern branch of the Mormons, what I knew as the Reformed Church, now ordains women...... This is a very, very, very un-Mormon thing to do.
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AbuShabab wrote:
surrender wrote:AbuShabab bro i now is the western countries that we always hear some weird sh!t happenes but is only a matter of time before it hits our countries, back home or even makka. we sould b aware of iy asap and try to warn others. :up:
Trust me; we aren't gonna have Amina Waduds, gay/lesbian imams, etc in our Muslim countries. They will not be tolerated in even the most secularized Muslim countries such as Turkey. Besides, most Muslims have been radicalized by the injustices (invasions of Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia, Holocaust of Muslims, torture in Gitmo, Abu Ghraib, renditions, supporting corrupt Muslim governments, etc) of America and Europe, and it's only a matter of time before an Islamic Caliphate is established, insha'Allah.
yeah i hear u. but is not like somalia is clean of fitnas. like we accept killings of muslim people, we accept the weird muslim sect who pray on graves, ones who dont eat other muslim's meat. walahi fitnas is everywhere. we just think we save because it doesnt happened in our country. i dont think there is a "good" muslim government in this world at this very moment. :down:
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Surrender .. WHAT
do muslim pray on graves? :?
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Mzbeautifull wrote:Surrender .. WHAT
do muslim pray on graves? :?

thats what i heard. back home there are group who go to the graves of their grand parents, and ask for the weather for example. :(
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Mzbeautifull wrote:Surrender .. WHAT
do muslim pray on graves? :?
surrender is referring to Sufis.
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AbuShabab wrote:
Goljano Lion wrote:before you make any accusations and saying fitna and evil and blalalaal, do you have any proof or facts to back up your comments whether it is in the quran or in the Hadiths where it says women can not lead a prayer?
http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Sate ... TheScholar

Also check other related questions at bottom of link.
dude i read the whole article, and you don't proof me wrong, it is the scholars who said that women cannot lead prayers. dude this scholars said this and that is not proof and when it comes to Muslim scholars opinions , we all know they have difference of opinion and disagreement about every thing
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Goljano Lion wrote:dude i read the whole article, and you don't proof me wrong, it is the scholars who said that women cannot lead prayers. dude this scholars said this and that is not proof and when it comes to Muslim scholars opinions , we all know they have difference of opinion and disagreement about every thing
There's no Muslim scholar (who lives in a Muslim country) who has the opinion that a woman can lead mixed-gender prayers. I challenge you to find such a scholar. Besides, women never led mixed-gender prayers during the era of the prophet (salalaahu calayhi wasalam), Sahaba and the generations who followed them.
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