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surrender wrote:Z i do understan what you coming from in a way, but you have to remember the cause of the problem in the first place.
its wasnt women who decided to take USA's side over USSR.
it wasnt women who join the proxy war
it wasnt women who got somalia into debt, so much that now we are practically owned by the West!!
it wasnt women who handed our ports to galo,
its wasnt women who dragged fathers, sons, and innocent menout of their homes, so they could be killed, because SB said so.
it wasnt women who raped and killed anyone and everyone they got their hands on.
it wasnt women who burned houses, schools, mosques because the other qabiil owns it. or my favourite one, because the Faqash are coming to take whats theirs.
it wasnt women who still run around with guns and boms in our capital city.
it wasnt EVEN a women who decided all the women in muqdhiso should join the "holy" war and gave innocent girls, and mothers guns and parade them around in the city as peice of objects.(the whole world saw the infamouse pictures, and still im asked about 'em as if i was there )

so you see, women are truelly the victims, esp. in the situation in somalia!

so in hindsight and retrospectively speaking...you're saying women basically had absolutely no role in the conflict?...can you honestly say that factually?

i guess that would reduce us to simply adding more to the stock(ie giving birth to more men) of failure huh?

The only thing women were probably guilty for was moral support, I can imagine lots of somali women backing their husbands in their actions.

Quite Interesting!

Walaal, I don't think the women had a choice, but to follow in the footsteps of their husbands? I mean a wife must always be obedient to her husband regardless of whether his actions are wrong or not. If anything I believe they had no ultimatum except to fulfill their duties as wives.

Quit interesting indeed,

Baar, what is a wife, the husband's shadow? your duties as wife does not include following a mindless fool's 'wrong' actions.

Baar wrote:Quite Interesting!

Walaal, I don't think the women had a choice, but to follow in the footsteps of their husbands? I mean a wife must always be obedient to her husband regardless of whether his actions are wrong or not. If anything I believe they had no ultimatum except to fulfill their duties as wives.

u sound like a newbie with old issues.

this isn't about husbands and wives huuno, but rather women who support the actions of men of whom they have little to no relations with at all...and by the same token disassociate themselves from the trouble entailing those very actions citing...we are victims, we're only women..ragii baa umada xasuuqey.

They were not the architects of the conflicts but when the sh!t hit the fan a lot of them aided and abetted their men. A lot of women were involved in raising money for rebel movements and still are to this day involved in funnelling money to buy weapons for their clan. They are victims and have the right to blame men for starting this but first they must cease the support including moral, financial and composing of war lyrics before they claim to be victims.

Sir-Luggoyo wrote:Zuli,

They vowed that any Farah who doesn't particpate in a counter attack would never get a koochie cause he is a member of the Xaliimo circle (composed some Buraanbur about that) .

They definitely were a source of financial and moral support to these men, and are till today. If it wasn't for the women, there wouldn't be that much money to buy artillery to fight. So they did/do have a role.

I wonder how did the women that were married to men from clan other than their own cope with the messed?

Zuli,

I agree with you, women are partly to blame too. In war moral and physical support is vital, women hold alot of sway, and if they refused their husbands certain right, such as refusing to provide food and etc then everything might have played out different in Somalia.

Lets face it, women are good size of the population they could have pushed for peace, but often they were the ones who goaded the men into fighting, who fanned the flames.

Salam

ISmahan,

It depends on her loyalty. Some like my ayeeyo would be stubbornly loyal to her qabiil while others would do nothing.

Yes, women have a blame in this.

You hear friggin buraanbur about them talking about reer hebel stealing reer hebel's geel in the 1800s, wtf is up with that.

Is not as if the women bak than had any power watso eva, dey were pretty much submissive n those who who tried to change things were assassinated plus name one single women warlord??None they were all male...I strongly blame somalia's destruction on our MEN period.

Warsan_Star_Muslimah wrote:Zuli,

Lets face it, women are good size of the population they could have pushed for peace, but often they were the ones who goaded the men into fighting, who fanned the flames.

warsan,

indeed, there was a missed opportunity for women to "push" for peace and they didn't.

ismahan,

it must've been hard for those women, i can't possibly imagine how devastating it would be if my brother was trying to kill my husband and vice versa because we're from different qabils..but the reality is that in Somalia we've seen people of the same qabil slaughter each other so it doesn't matter, no one was safe from the war.

munique,

if you support a warlord, you're no different.

most the people who fundraise for weapons / millitia in the dispora are women even in our neibourhood ,

both men and women are to blame