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Retarded moorshe livin in a wrong era, the only thing in Banadir is MogadishuCUSHITE KINGDOM wrote:Shirib wrote:
Mogadishu is the only thing in Banadir, genius
mind of a geledithey banadir you know might be mogadishu but its bigger than that.
co-sign.Addoow wrote:this guy is somehow disturbed,he comes here with the intention of dividing the banadir inhabited communities thus sowing the seeds of dissent among us.
please dont give attention to him.
Banadir now is just Mogadishu, and nothing elseabdi ilyas wrote:shirib, banadir is not only moqdishu but the capital city of banaadir is moqdishu.
and before 1980 banaadir consisted of sh.dhexe sh.hoose and moqdishu
The Omani Empire was a network of ports, held together more by shared commercial interests than by a state structure (Cooper 1977: 32) Guillan described Sa'id's authority over Banadir as 'seasonal'; it came and went with the monsoons when his ships were able to anchor (Guillan, 1856: III, 185). As far as Muqdisho was concerned, everybody knew the real power lay with Yusuf of the Geledi. Those merchants from Europe, Asia and America congregated in Zanzibar who directed their attention to the mysterious Sultan who controlled the inland trade routes.
Source: SOMALI SULTANATE. The Geledi City-State over 150 Years by: Luling, Virginia
Thus, by the latter part of the 19th century, the coastal and hinterland traditions had merged, and the centre of pressure had swung from the coast to the interior. In the north the ancient ports of Berbera and Seylac, much reduced in prosperity and importance, were now controlled by Somali nomads, and the position of the old ports of Marka, Baraawe, and Mogadishu was very similar. These towns had all been penetrated by various Somali clans, and the dominant political influence became that exercised by the Geledi clan ruling the lower reaches of the Shabeelle. Commercial and political links that provided an opening for European infiltration had, however, also been forged between these two coasts and the outside world. The southern coastal towns, on the other hand, acknowledged the overlordship of the sultan of Zanzibar, although the latter's authority was slight in comparison with that exercised locally by the Geledi Somali.
Source: Encyclopedia Britanica
"The port of Mogadishu (Mogadiscio) was practically autonomous as C. Guillian noted the Zanzibar's Sultans like his customs came and went with the monsoons. The hinterlands of Mogadhishu was controlled by the Geledi clan, who's sultan contracted alliances with many other clans in the region between Shabelle and Juba river. Through much of the century, the Geledi alliance dominated the ivory trade that ran from Luk (Lugh) on the upper Jubba to Mogadishu; the Geledi sultan also collected tribute from the agricultural clans, along the Shabelle river as far south as Brava. Only the powerful Biimaal clan situated in the hinterlands of Marka succeeded in resisting Geledi hegemony. The Sultan of Zanzibar sought to construct a fort in Mogadishu in 1870 he had to obtain approval of Sultan Ahmed Yusuf of the Geledi.
Source: General History of Africa IV. Africa in the 19th Century until the 1880's edited by J.F. Ade Ajayi
" Farther south on the Benadir coast, however, the Sultan of Zanzibar claimed jurisdiction as the successor of Omani rulers. His claim was established, but was forced to share power with the local Somali rulers. The governor of the Benadir coast resided in Brava, which was therefore more firmly under Zanzibar rule. Mogadishu, on the other hand, was really controlled by the sultan of the Geledi, and minor ports were in the hands of members of other clans"
Source: The Cambridge history of Africa: from c. 1790 to c. 1870 - Page 88
"When Christopher in 1843 and Guillen in 1847 visited Mogadishu, they found it more a Somali than an Arab town. In a population of about 4,000 there were only about 30 families of Arab origin and a few Indian traders. The rest were Somali, who had established themselves in the half-ruined houses of the Portuguese and greater Arab period. Unlike the Swahili of the southward towns, who were armed, like Arabs, with sword and dagger, these Somali carried spears and bows and arrows; and though they all professed to be Moslems and should therefore be able to read the Koran, they knew little or no Arabic. Mogadishu, in fact, was virtually an outpost of a Somali kingdom with a population of some 150,000 centered in the Webi Doboi (Shabelle) country. Its real master was the Sheik at Geledi, a warrior chieftain who at need could mobilize at least 20,000 spears.
Source: East Africa and its Invaders From the Earliest Times to the Death of Seyyid Said in 1856. by: Coupland, Reginald pg 333-334
"When Guillain arrived on the Benadir in 1847, it appeared that the Geledi Sultan maintained an authority all the way to the Juba"
Source: Patterns of trade and politics in the Somali Benadir, 1840-1885 By Lee V. Cassanelli pg 57-58
"The Geledi Sultunate which, from its strategic hold on the lower Shabelle river, controlled the vital trade-routes between the coast and hinterlands in the nineteenth century, and so dominated southern Somalia."
-Social and Cultural Anthropology in Perspective page 348
1. geledi had an alliance with many other clans to stay in power for their little period.Shirib wrote:Put up or shut up
-->Thus, by the latter part of the 19th century, the coastal and hinterland traditions had merged, and the centre of pressure had swung from the coast to the interior.
"-->The port of Mogadishu (Mogadiscio) was practically autonomous as C. Guillian noted the Zanzibar's Sultans like his customs came and went with the monsoons. The hinterlands of Mogadhishu was controlled by the Geledi clan<---
At the same period, the dynasty Ajuran founded a State centralized in the valley of the Shebelle. For Said Samatar, it is about the one of the rare episodes centralization of a pastoral State of the history of Somalia, which was larger and more powerful than the coastal city-States of Mogadiscio, Merca and Baraawe joined together. The sultanate ajuran disintegrated at the end of the 17th century, folding under the Portuguese attacks, the internal dissensions and imitated them wandering tribes of north. It took more than one century before seeing the emergence of a new State, the Geledi sultanate, around the town of Afgooye. Meanwhile, the Sultanate of Oman drove out Portuguese out of Somalia to take the control of the coast of Benaadir. The Somali cities remained free to be self-managed as long as they respected the authority of the sultan and paid their tribute; the role of the governor omani in Mogadiscio, Merca and Baraawe remained largely honorary.
Hobyo was the commercial centre of the Ajuran Sultanate, based in Qalafo (modern Ethiopia). Commercial goods harvested along the Shabelle river (especially around the agricultural centers of Harardheere and El-Dheer) were brought to Hobyo for trade, as Hobyo remained the active mercantile port of earlier times. The Ajuraan rulers collected their tribute from the town in the form of sorghum (durra), and the port of Hobyo was very profitable and important for the Ajuran sultans. (14th century - 15th century - 16th century - other centuries) As a means of recording the passage of time, the 15th century was that century which lasted from 1401 to 1500. ... (16th century - 17th century - 18th century - more centuries) As a means of recording the passage of time, the 17th century was that century which lasted from 1601-1700. ... The Ajuran (also Ajuuraan or Ujuuraan) is a Somali clan. ... The Shebelle River (with numerous spelling variations, including Shabele and Shabell, sometimes with Wabe or Webi prepended, Shabeelle in Somalia) begins in the highlands of Ethiopia, and then flows southeast into Somalia towards Mogadishu. ... Species About 30 species, see text Sorghum is a genus of about 20 species of grasses, native to tropical and subtropical regions of Eastern Africa, with one species native to Mexico. ...
Hobyo's Ajuuraan rulers were allies of the Mogadishu Sultanate, and trade between Hobyo and the Banaadir coast flourished for some time. So vital was Hobyo to the prosperity of the Ajuran Sultanate that when the Hiraab, a lineage of closely related Hawiye clans, successfully revolted against the Ajuran and established an independent Hiraab Imamate, they included Hobyo. This was not the only fragmentation of the Ajuran state, as the Majerteen also broke away to form their own sultanate in the north, and the Warsangeli Sultanate shook off centuries of Ajuran hegemony. The Ajuran remained in their power base in Qalafo, but were a shadow of their former power, and were conquered along with the rest of Ogaden by the Ethiopians two centuries later.
Somalia stands out among the states of Africa, because although it's borders were shaped by the colonial powers, it is a nation-state. The Somali live not only in present-day Somalia and breakaway Somaliland to the north, but also in adjacent stretches of territory in Ethiopia (the OGADEN province) and Kenya.
The coastal region was settled by Arabs between the 7th and 10th century; trading centers such as MOGADISHU and KISIMAYO emerged. Islam became the dominant religion.
Mogadishu was visited by IBN BATTUTA in 1331 and by Chinese explorer ZHENG HE in the 15th century. At that time, Mogadishu was an Islamic Sultanate, ruled by the Muzaffar Dynasty which in the 14th century was succeeded by the Dynasty of Fakhr ad-Din; the latter were dependent on the Ajuran, who in the early 17th century were defeated by the Hawiye Somali, thus becoming the new force dominating Mogadishu. The Portuguese visited the city, but never succeeded in taking it. In 1704, the Omanis established control; Mogadishu never regained it's old position. In the early 19th century, Mogadishu followed Mombasa's example and threw off Omani sovereignty; in 1828, Mogadishu had to surrender to Omani forces. In 1841, with the partitioning of the Sultanate of Oman, Mogadishu became part of the Sultanate of Zanzibar. When Mogadishu was visited by French traveller Charles Guillain in 1846-1848, Mogadishu was dependent on both the Sultanate of Zanzibar and the Somali Geledi Clan.
Xooga was Geledi, you collect tributes from all the other clans you rule them, learn how to read. Over a hundred years ain't a small time period palCUSHITE KINGDOM wrote: 1. geledi had an alliance with many other clans to stay in power for their little period.
Read buddy here's more than one source Geledi controlled Muqdisho itselfCUSHITE KINGDOM wrote:2. geledi controlled the hinterlands
Again your either somewhat illiterate or just don't like factsCUSHITE KINGDOM wrote:3. geledi power didnt pass banadir.
Even though I understand where cushite kingdom is coming from, I agree with abakar but still all tribes should have the right to rule otherwise it wouldn't be fair. And cushite I don't think it makes any sense when you say we should pack up and leave..what is the ratio from reer xamar and other tribes in mogadishu? Honestly Xamar is the largest city in Somalia, why is it impossible to share it with others? Look at the other big cities in Somalia which are all inhabited by different tribes.cushite, my heritage in benadir goes back to my 5th forefather. thats 5 generations, at least 200 years, the abgaals probably have longer history than mine, anyway back then muqdisho was not even an official city, but my great grandfathers owned property, land and wealth in the districts which are part and parcel of benaadir province today. so who the fock are you to tell me that im not a native of muqdisho!? you telling me that my family should pack up and leave.. leave the city to who? a minority clan that numbers no more than 100 people, for a city that can home more than a million? get out of here man, what an insecure person you are. warya, as for the other hawiyes, in banaadir, majority rules, so they have that right.
