Why do Somalis have an inferiority complex?

[neocon_2007]

LastrealSomali, if you think all the Somalis to be of same Y-DNA haplogroup, then you are mistaken.Among the Somalis there are T2,J1e,E1B1...
So, if Somalis have all these different genes, how can you put them in one category.Let me tell you one thing.Somali is a region and not a clan and I am proud Arab from the Tarud clan.This is what my Y-DNA confirms that it is J1e and that is one of several proofs which show that I am as Arab as a Saudi or an Iraqi Arab.I am brown in color, I always check the black category when I am filling an application.I dont believe Somalism or Africanism or blackism because these categories were not known to my people before the last century.

wtf is Tarud?

if you are referring to Darod clan then u ain't no Arab dumbass cause I'm Darod and all the Darod I know look BLACK.

Maybe your talkin about those half-breed reer xamar niggas who are clearly part Arab

most somalis have black skin other than a few with brown skin

but then again America has alot of brown skin people who are still black

You aint DAROOD AKA WARSANGELI just another adopted and fooled into someones confederacy claiming it.

I am Darood aka Warsangeli and I do not look BLACK.

So your little claims been rejected.

Get ready to fill out the Hawiye membership form.

Ethnic Warsangeli.

[LastREALSomali]

LastrealSomali, if you think all the Somalis to be of same Y-DNA haplogroup, then you are mistaken.Among the Somalis there are T2,J1e,E1B1...
So, if Somalis have all these different genes, how can you put them in one category.Let me tell you one thing.Somali is a region and not a clan and I am proud Arab from the Tarud clan.This is what my Y-DNA confirms that it is J1e and that is one of several proofs which show that I am as Arab as a Saudi or an Iraqi Arab.I am brown in color, I always check the black category when I am filling an application.I dont believe Somalism or Africanism or blackism because these categories were not known to my people before the last century.

wtf is Tarud?

if you are referring to Darod clan then u ain't no Arab dumbass cause I'm Darod and all the Darod I know look BLACK.

Maybe your talkin about those half-breed reer xamar niggas who are clearly part Arab

most somalis have black skin other than a few with brown skin

but then again America has alot of brown skin people who are still black

You aint DAROOD AKA WARSANGELI just another adopted and fooled into someones confederacy claiming it.

I am Darood aka Warsangeli and I do not look BLACK.

So your little claims been rejected.

Get ready to fill out the Hawiye membership form.

Ethnic Warsangeli.

lol

I unlike you am from the honorable Dhulbanhante clan that were the defenders of the somalia when the british invaded dumbass

we fought and died for the somali nation while traitors probably like urself sided with the british

nigga you better know who you talkin to

[neocon_2007]

I unlike you has VERIFIED lineage and not shooty stories. One your group is said to be either Dir/Isaaq and sometimes Dudubble/Hawiye.

Authentic Daroods/Warsangelis can only speak of the matter when it comes to my patriarch Darood. You may not have been a son but adopted.

I understand your outrage, you are the horses other clans use and when useless shot. Today your useless. And this discussion of Warsangelis patriarch and the father of Maakhir is closed.

Now its evident why you suffer from a inferiority complex, today your the rag doll of Isaaq yesterday Majarteen and on and off Hawiye aka ICU aka Shabab.

[LastREALSomali]

now this is funny

I'm not big on qabiil shit cause its the problem in our country

and it makes no sense for me to bad mouth another Darod brotha

and I woudn't bad mouth a Hawiye or Issaq brotha

to me it makes NO difference what you say about my clan

I am PROUD to be Somali period. Whether you wanna say that Dhulbahante are Darod, Issaq, Hawiye, etc.

it don't matter to me

[neocon_2007]

Your Somali, agree


I and my kin are Ethnic Warsangelis, different ethnicity from the Somali. An understanding has to come when dealing with your inferiority complex. Your not an authentic Darood but an indeginous African who has adopted the lineage. Granted that, its you and the likes of your people who suffer from a complex as they try to tie their ancestry to Maakhiri patriarchy. It would be wise to educate your people and embrace Somali, rather than tag my lineage and forefather in order to avoid your true brothers.

[LastREALSomali]

what imaginary world are you living in dawg?

go to saudi arabia and see how they treat you

your a fool dude

they'll call you a abid like every other somali

lol.........keep wishing your arab but they will remind you quick you ain't

[neocon_2007]

Your a layman.

By arab standards based on "looks" I am one of them. I am not a negro nor of the same stock but a Warsangeli of the mediterrainid stock. Stock that intersects with the Arabid. I share the classical Warsangeli features shared by my forefathers people, Hadrameut.


I am a ethnic Warsangeli whose origins is Yemen. And superficially fits in with the local indeginous inhabitants there.

[Hyperactive]

oh i need to change my name to somali name.
stop speaking arabic, and stop goig to arabic school!!
also give my mother somali nationality ot rather african one if there is such.

[ky2008]

LastrealSomali, what you need to know is Somali nationalism is just a product of European colonialism.Before the Europeans came to Somali Peninsula, no Tarud person use to claim to be a Somali.When ever a Tarud went to the Haj or Yemen, he/she use to go by his/her clan name which was Tarud and if that person was asked what is the origin of this clan he/she use to say that he/she was of Aqeeli of the Hashimite origin.
I think you live in the Scandanavian countries where all blacks are put in one category but what you need to know is that we Arabs are just like the Hispanics.We have people of different colors and we do not count our geneology on color or language lines but rather on male lines.Let me show you an example.
Today there are Taruds whose mothers are whites or fair colored Arabs and because of that they are not blacks, so are you saying a Hawiye or a Nigerian man is closer to us than these Taruds?
You also mentioned that if you go to Saudi Arabia you will be called abid just because of your color.From here I can infer that it is really you who have inferiority complex.If a fair skined Arabs calls you names, dont you have a mouth to insult back or you think slavery and black color are synonymous to one another?Dont you know that there were white slaves in Arabia and todays Arabs, many of them have descended from these white slaves.Hey!, let me tell you one thing.I dont care about colors or races.All I care is if this dude is geneologically related to me or not.We Taruds have relatives who are the progeny of our forefather Aqeel ibn Abitalib and who have different colors.These Aqeelis are found in most of the Arab countries.

[LastREALSomali]

LastrealSomali, what you need to know is Somali nationalism is just a product of European colonialism.Before the Europeans came to Somali Peninsula, no Tarud person use to claim to be a Somali.When ever a Tarud went to the Haj or Yemen, he/she use to go by his/her clan name which was Tarud and if that person was asked what is the origin of this clan he/she use to say that he/she was of Aqeeli of the Hashimite origin.
I think you live in the Scandanavian countries where all blacks are put in one category but what you need to know is that we Arabs are just like the Hispanics.We have people of different colors and we do not count our geneology on color or language lines but rather on male lines.Let me show you an example.
Today there are Taruds whose mothers are whites or fair colored Arabs and because of that they are not blacks, so are you saying a Hawiye or a Nigerian man is closer to us than these Taruds?
You also mentioned that if you go to Saudi Arabia you will be called abid just because of your color.From here I can infer that it is really you who have inferiority complex.If a fair skined Arabs calls you names, dont you have a mouth to insult back or you think slavery and black color are synonymous to one another?Dont you know that there were white slaves in Arabia and todays Arabs, many of them have descended from these white slaves.Hey!, let me tell you one thing.I dont care about colors or races.All I care is if this dude is geneologically related to me or not.We Taruds have relatives who are the progeny of our forefather Aqeel ibn Abitalib and who have different colors.These Aqeelis are found in most of the Arab countries.

ur stupid and I'm just glad most somalis I know are nothing like you and that other fool neo

we don't speak Arabic

can u explain how u can be considered Arab if it isn't even your indigenous language?

The Sudanese at least are of partial arab heritage and speak arabic. They could claim to be Arab just off the cultural similarities. Somalis on the other hand look just like the Oromos and Afar and speak similar languages. If anything we are related to them.

[Kolombo]

First and foremost I have studied biological anthropology in college.

So did I as a requirement for my major. And let me be the first to tell you that you can not use theories about race & human evolution (the other word for biological anthropology) to explain why you think Somalis suffer from "Inferiority complex." All science can do is make links between DNA relations of people in the horn, these are all guesses & theories. No one can finger point anything with predicted accuracy.

In addition, human evolution conflicts with the concept of creation in Islam. Prophet Adam (as) is not of African descent, he was created in heaven & only Allah knows his original race. To argue all humans came from Africa, because some scientists have cross-referenced the Y-DNA of different populations around the world & have noticed relations means nothing. If you consider yourself to be a Muslim, my only suggestion would be to work on your faith & stop believing everything at face-value.

[Voltage]

Guys, this guy is Xabasha. Ignore the troll.

[LastREALSomali]

First and foremost I have studied biological anthropology in college.

So did I as a requirement for my major. And let me be the first to tell you that you can not use theories about race & human evolution (the other word for biological anthropology) to explain why you think Somalis suffer from "Inferiority complex." All science can do is make links between DNA relations of people in the horn, these are all guesses & theories. No one can finger point anything with predicted accuracy.

In addition, human evolution conflicts with the concept of creation in Islam. Prophet Adam (as) is not of African descent, he was created in heaven & only Allah knows his original race. To argue all humans came from Africa, because some scientists have cross-referenced the Y-DNA of different populations around the world & have noticed relations means nothing. If you consider yourself to be a Muslim, my only suggestion would be to work on your faith & stop believing everything at face-value.

ok so because the quran doesn't say what race adam was we are to believe he wasn't african?

u stupid fam

maybe he was green with red dots all over his body then?

the only facts we know right now is that the first people to look like you and me lived in Africa.....east africa to be precise

from that u can posit whatever u want but I and almost every other person who has studied this subject take it to mean they looked black

[LastREALSomali]

Guys, this guy is Xabasha. Ignore the troll.

full blooded somali fam

but I do have a bunch of Ethiopian friends who go to school with me

good people

[surrender]

One thing science teaches us is that there is no such thing as race. Race is a human construct created by people just to group different populations.

i havent read the whole thing, but ^that caught my attention.
there is such a thing as race.
"...min dakarin wa unthaa...wajacaalkum waqabaaila..."
people see each other differently because they look differnet. is who you see closer to you, in terms of religion, culture, alnguage and so on. us somalis have more in common with arabs than africans.fact!!!
if there was no such a thing as "race" then why do white people hate(d) black people? for example. and if somalis are better off claiming to be Arabs, then so beat it. why do you have a problem with that? what i dont get about some people is. what is this anti-arab? why do we hate the arabs so much. they brought the religion to our door steps, they fought for the religion, they fought for kacba? what did we do horta for islam.? seriously soomali hadaanunahay, maxaa diinteena utarnay talow?
when the white men came and divded us into two groups or shall i say three?. some went along with it. some didnt care. some went against. basically we let them devided us.

and here we are bad mouthing the arabs yet again..hmmmmm