Dutch MP banned from entering the UK

[Firefly]

Madd_Scientist_:- Yeah, I agree sis. This is a positive step from the UK government. They're targetting all forms of extremism. But a lot of people are hinting, they're just scared that another 7/7 will occur if they were to display what can be construed as tacit support for Mr Wilders.

abdikarim86:- Do you really think people won't listen to him? I think there are enough loonies ready to jump on the bandwagon. I think I agree with Maddy on this, he has a lot of media attention, so he certainly knows how to play his cards., I think he is a dangerous person who wields to much influence, and has some ideas of policy that I find deeply abhorrent.

Kolombo:- That sounds like a good idea. But don't you think they will just issue a fatwa on him just like they did with Rushdie? And what good will that serve but paint Muslims as extremists...

Aerosmith:- Yeah, Maddy is right. Muslims will just react with violent protests, and burning Dutch flags etc. They can only generate an emotional reaction instead of restraint and positive dialogue with the opposition.

[Sakhraan]

I voted for mr Wilders last time..........fukk Brown and fat cow Jacqui Smith

i agree with mr wilders the one-eyed Scottish idiot has become the biggest coward of Europe.

[surrender]

this idiot wants attention, and he's damn right getting it! so all we can as British Muslim do is ignore him, and dont/stop reading the papers that support him!!

[zidane88]

It is a positive act to ban . He would add salt, to the ( already) injured MUslims.

[Hoowle]

i'm generally against censorship but might make exception when it comes to incitement to hatred accusation.

while i never heard of this dude before what i don't get is the double standards and hypocrisy of the british. britian allows so-called wahabi islamic clerics who incite muslims to hatred against jews and kufrs and sometimes extol muslims to kill others. Wahabis are allowed to propagate their propaganda on campuses and mosques. what is the difference?

we must be allowed to counter wahabi brainwashing of young impressionable muslim minds. else, we'll have a ticking time-bomb on our hands.

may God save the queen.

[Firefly]

Sakhraan:- I see you're a Jeremy Clarkson fan.

Surrender:-

zidane88:- I don't think Muslims should be injured by his comments tho, we should be stronger than that.

[QansaGabeyle]

barring him from entering the UK only gives this attention whore what he seeks. nothing people like him hate more than being ignored.

[Firefly]

Hoowle:- I only agree with the first statement you've made. What's this wahabi business you're on about? Do you know how many Muslim clerics have been denied access in UK? Do you know how many have been deported? You make it seem like so called Islamic extremism is something that thrives in the UK, when they're actually going undercover in Mosques across London to expose extremists and then to deport them.

Yes, even universities are targetted, and closely monitored, especially since the 7/7 attacks.

QansaGabeyle:- Yeah, you have a good point.

[zidane88]

I said ( already). meaning, muslims facing growing Islamophopic before the idiot.

[Sakhraan]

I'm looking forward to Ayaans response of her friend's treatment by the Uk officials.


firefly,.......I'm a Top gear fan.

[Firefly]

zidane88:- Oh ok, sorry for the misunderstanding.

Sakhraan:- Yeah, I figured.

Hoowle:- First of all, can you stop using the term 'wahabi'? It's offensive, and it's used by those who seek to cause division. Are you talking about Ibn Qutayba? And what problems do you have with the 'wahabi' concept you're on about?

[Mr. Yungnfresh]

I think Muslims should take a page out of Prophet Muhammad's (SAW) noble book and react with no reaction at all. Burning flags, yelling undecipherable Arabic into a news-camera lens and uttering death threats is kinda counter-productive to disproving his claims that Islam is a violent religion which breeds extremist religious zealots. Instead...why not appear calm, cool and collected...and let him look like an idiot for claiming there's fire without any smoke. As passionate as we are about Islam, the Prophet SAW was exponentially more passionate about it, and i'd expect he'd analyze the benefits of images of flag-burning on CNN vs. a calm response accompanied by educating the masses on what being a Muslim truly entails. If he verbally attacked Islam, we should respond in kind and verbally rebut his slanderous accusations....but with intelligence, not emotion. It's too difficult to differentiate between someone who's screaming and yelling cuz they've been wronged and someone who's a nutcase. Calling for someone's head because they insulted Islam isn't being Islamic, as the pagan Arabs used to insult Islam and the Prophet (SAW)...and he himself responded by inviting to Islam based on it's merit.

"O you who believe! Stand out firmly for Allâh and be just witnesses and let not the enmity and hatred of others make you avoid justice. Be just: that is nearer to piety, and fear Allâh. Verily, Allâh is Well­Acquainted with what you do" (Surat Al-Ma'idah, Ayat 8)

[Firefly]

I think Muslims should take a page out of Prophet Muhammad's (SAW) noble book and react with no reaction at all. Burning flags, yelling undecipherable Arabic into a news-camera lens and uttering death threats is kinda counter-productive to disproving his claims that Islam is a violent religion which breeds extremist religious zealots. Instead...why not appear calm, cool and collected...and let him look like an idiot for claiming there's fire without any smoke. As passionate as we are about Islam, the Prophet SAW was exponentially more passionate about it, and i'd expect he'd analyze the benefits of images of flag-burning on CNN vs. a calm response accompanied by educating the masses on what being a Muslim truly entails. If he verbally attacked Islam, we should respond in kind and verbally rebut his slanderous accusations....but with intelligence, not emotion. It's too difficult to differentiate between someone who's screaming and yelling cuz they've been wronged and someone who's a nutcase. Calling for someone's head because they insulted Islam isn't being Islamic, as the pagan Arabs used to insult Islam and the Prophet (SAW)...and he himself responded by inviting to Islam based on it's merit.

"O you who believe! Stand out firmly for Allâh and be just witnesses and let not the enmity and hatred of others make you avoid justice. Be just: that is nearer to piety, and fear Allâh. Verily, Allâh is Well­Acquainted with what you do" (Surat Al-Ma'idah, Ayat 8)

[wastegal]

Asalaamu Alaikum all,

I'm sure you all recal the Dutch MP who made that controversial film titled 'Fitna' which claimed that Islam supports terrorism, well he has been banned from entering the UK.

The Home Office has said:- There was a blanket ban on Mr Wilders entering the UK under EU laws enabling member states to exclude someone whose presence could threaten public security. Furthermore, "The government opposes extremism in ALL forms,"


What do you guys/girls think about this? Should he be allowed to enter? If so, why?

Source:- http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7882953.stm

Walaikum salam sis,

Personally i think everybody should there right of access. But for what he did i think he would start contriversy (sry for the spelling). So i think he should come at his own will and understand that his safety will be at risk.