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Re: James Dhal is going to wet his pants reading this.

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Aliyah no we are not! And those names are fake names.

Abakar, in old language Ethiopia=All of Horn Africans...they talk 10x more about Somalis and Somali clans in that article then they ever do about the Habesha. :lol:
It should be understood that many of the names of Cushitic speaking tribes today in the horn of Africa – Somalia, Djibouti and Ethiopia/Eritrea – were also known in early Arabia. In Somalia such clans as the Yahar, Darood, the Mahra or Maheyra of Somalia and the Yemen, Makhar or Makir (Machir), Bin Sama’al or Somali(or Sam’al and El Sama of Yemen), Rahawein (ancient Rahawiyyin or Ru’ayn or Rahawi of Yemen) and smith clans such the Hubir (Heber), Yubir, Sabi, Tumal and Wubar (or Wabar) are mentioned in ancient times and through the early Islamic period as Himyarite and Sabaean tribes in South Arabian inscriptions.
The Afro-Arabian Origins of the Ad, Amalek and Aram, Uz, Saba and Himyar: Ethnohistory of the Mahra/Shahara/Somali populations
The modern Mahra extend from Hadramaut to Oman and are found in Somalia. They had clans named Samudayt (Thamud or Samud) and Mashek (Mashek is also called Mash in the Bible) and Riyam or Rigam anciently known from their king Rekem or Arkam, Mahli (Mahli the Korahite?) and Idi. The 13th century traveler Ibn Mudjawir speaks of the Mahra (also called Maheyra, Mahri) living in those days in Oman as “tall and handsome” which can also be said of the Mahra of Somalia.
It has been suggested that the name of the Hawiye clan of Somalia is related to the name of the Hivites
The modern Somali (Sama’al), Afar, Danakil and other Cushitic speakers are examples of the peoples known to historians as Ad or A’ad, Amalek, Qahtan, Saba and Himyar kingdoms. Names of their clans Rahawein, Mahra, Darood, Yahar and Hubir give credence to the documents that state the Sabaeans migrated to Africa, many of these Baribari also ended up in North Africa. The comments of early Roman and Greek writers such as Josephus and Strabo become more understandable. They claimed the Ethiopians of Meroe were actually Arabians or Sabaeans and that everything east of the Nile was in fact “Arabia”.
According to David Goldenberg, Wah ibn Munabbih in the 7th century, an Iranian descendant born in Arabia (as were many inhabitants of the Yemen of that time) said the Qaran along with the Barbar (Berber early name for Somali and their descendants in the Maghreb)
It is clear that the descendants of Esau, Himyar, Saba, Ad, Amluk, Cush and Canaan are represented by the copper black and dark reddish brown inhabitants of Somalia, northern Sudan, Djibouti, Ethiopia and Eritrea.
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so is this source reliable


i wont read it until told so :|
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Snoop you guys are misunderstanding.

It is not CLOSE to reliable, as far as i know, and I did not post it for academic purposes. I took a look at it and it is 100% something James dhal would be interested in so I posted it.

That's the only relevance it has :lol:
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ire wrote:
dawwa9 wrote:It always amazes me why people care about subjects like these, shit was 20000 years ago, get over it.
The more you post, the more I think you're twelve.
:lol: :lol: :lol: Who has time to read so long list.
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My eyes hurt...I should get some sleep, but I just skimmed through. So, in essence what they're trying to say is that the modern arabs are not really arabs and that the true arabs are the Cushites? Isn't that going abit too far? I can understand saying most modern arabs are not really arabs but to say Cushites such as the raxanweyn are arab is just too far fetched I think.

Besides raxanweyn is not a real qabiil....it is an a group of people who came together to form some sort of a coalition unless I'm mistaken.

I'd like to see some evidence or sources to back this up.
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James where is your rebuttal to contradict this evidence presented by Voltage
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Interesting! The author unfortunately doesn't pursue her original point and starts indulging in name comparison to try and prove her hypothesis, which is unfortunate. Names used to actually mean something in their languages, and the same people can have completely different names in only slightly different languages. I agree with her original hypothesis however that both Semites and Cushites once lived together in Asia and both have migrated to Africa about 8,000 years ago or so, and then re-migrated to Arabia a few thousand years ago from Africa.

I came across the similarity of Horus to Kuush myself. Kuush means "black", and Horus was the "black God". In fact, I think there may be a connection with Horus and Waaq.

The connection between Somalis and Oromos with ancient Egypt is undeniable. If genetic evidence isn't enough, you just have to see this:

You all know the stick he's holding, right?
http://www.aminarts.com/JAN_31B_2009.html

Well here it is again, only the Oromo call it a Hokkoo or Hororo.
http://books.google.ca/books?id=lISwBs-1jIIC&pg=PA159

And here it is again!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Horus_standing.svg

That stick, which you probably thought nothing of, is the most incredible example of a cultural item surviving for literally thousands of years.

Oromo Qallu (religious elders) use the Hororo stick to issue blessings and in important ceremonies. Guess what the ancient Egyptian priesthood used it for? Exactly the same thing.

Oromo are monotheists though, and never has had a pantheon of gods, which means their religion actually predates ancient Egypt and is possibly a relic of an ancient Monotheist religion.
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I've no idea what to make of this stuff.
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Padishah wrote:I've no idea what to make of this stuff.
waa none sense unless you love history ..........waa sheekoy shekoo baa la yidhi
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James Dahl I've always noticed the very peculiar similarity between Ancient Egyptians and Somalis

For example, look at Egyptian types

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Somalis before they picked up the modern pants

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Ancient Egyptian headrest called "arshin" from the 6th dynasty (2K years before christ)

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Modern day Somali headrest called Barshin (used by nomads) also pillow in Somali is called Barkin

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Ancient Egyptian spoon from 8th dynasty

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Somali nomadic spoons collected in 20th century by colonialists

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Just soe
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Voltage wrote:

Ancient Egyptian headrest called "arshin" from the 6th dynasty (2K years before christ)

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Modern day Somali headrest called Barshin (used by nomads) also pillow in Somali is called Barkin

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Now that cannot be coincidence

Laakin the ancient Egyptians were not Arabs...so are you saying Somalis are descendants of ancient egyptians or that they're the original arabs? It has to be one or the other right?

I've read quite a few articles claiming Somalis are descendants of ancient egyptians which sounded plausible.
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are you guys saying then that Carab Saalax (Somali Maheris) are the ancient 'Thamud?
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voltage ina adeer do seriously expect people to read this :down: :down: personally if wanted to read something as long as that i would read my textbooks, that would benefit me more i think
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Who is this James Dhal character, again?

Voltage, does trading and general communication amongst two different people, throughout centuries, not often account for or lead to certain similarities in culture, or looks (As i'm sure many have intermarried), as well? :roll:

On another tip --- It's disheartening and sometimes even frustrating to know that we hail from a nation built and continuously breed on Oral history, seeing how it dies a bit every day with each elder. We desperately need more indigenous"historians" who document these things/Not just the handful of westerners who'd jotted a few things down in the 40's and 50's. :idea:
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peace didn't read it either, skimmed through it
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