Good wallahi, Mareexaanki way ciishoodeen.

[Voltage]

Nobody told Me Marexaan was moving, However realizing the problem is the 1st step even if I'm one shaqsi. The reasons I post the importance of this stuff in the Gedo section is thinking maybe Marexaan youths can come up with a consensus on kala dhanbeyn iyo hormar even though our Parents generation couldn't.

Then the first thing you should do is understand Qansa, SDM, and Xoogsade are part of our parent's thinking and you should become independent of their bile.

When you start to understand then, then you should comprehend why it is inconceivable to expect change from crackheads who control our regions. It is like trying to beat a dead cow to keep moving.

[Murax]

"TPLF cannot build a Jubbaland only a united Marexaan could"

viewtopic.php?f=26&t=198331&start=15.


Take that before You accuse Me of being in a "camp". My quote in Sadeboi's thread and I can't think of a more direct Way to show that shaqsi ahaan theres some stuff I don't agree with from one of the Marexaan political groups. Furthormore I expressed some of these reverations personally to Warsame101 as He can attest.

Again I expressed very bluntly My disagreement with something, and also expressed to You My disagreement with Your lets be passive and wait someone to save us talk. You used Your backward thinking to throw Me in a camp.

[Voltage]

Again, everything is personalized.

The reason why I posted this topic and am happy at the calaacal of Mareexaan on the net is so they can open up their eyes and actually put in intelligence, resource, and manpower into the regions. The people who were incharge of the regions in the last 15 years are not capable of building Jubbaland, are not capable of building adiministration for Gedo, for Caabudwaaq, etc. They are just not. Sure they could have some feel good meetings every now and then but they are not capable of establishing an effect administration which should be save from everything.

If the maamul in Gedo was any bit strong or as deserving of anything as you are under the impression, Al Shabaab would have never taken over. Instead Al Shabaab received the region on a silver batter because the people were poor and battered, hungry and disillusioned. Not even a single clash happened. Does that look like the people of Gedo felt there was actually something to fight for?

That's what you need to understand Murax.

By Marehan being embarrassed in public and Shiekh Sharif telling them "no the prime minister is going to be from Puntland", all the big wigs who sat out and let their territories be screwed over deserve it. You neglect yur lands to, you reap what you sow.

Puntland is not controlled from Boosaaso or Garowe, Puntland is controlled by the rer Puntland diaspora. They fund all those things. They funded the Boosaaso port, they funded their airports. They funded their buildings, and their administrations.

Do you think there are more reer Puntland then Mareexaan in the Diaspora? Do you think the reer Puntland who works in the hardware store is any richer then his Mareexaan counterpart?

Waa maya but the Puntlander is involved, whereas the Mareexaan isn't and this is really the big difference. What happened in Djbouti is a big symbolic meaning and a wake up call to the Mareexaan who only get involved to send in a 100 for war or something.

THis is what the articles signifying and what you are apparently not understanding Bro.

[Murax]

Again, everything is personalized.

If the maamul in Gedo was any bit strong or as deserving of anything as you are under the impression, Al Shabaab would have never taken over. Instead Al Shabaab received the region on a silver batter because the people were poor and battered, hungry and disillusioned. Not even a single clash happened. Does that look like the people of Gedo felt there was actually something to fight for?.

Sxb How is a maamul supposed to be able to defend itself When it is literily attacked weeks after it is formed? Ofcourse it was small, weak and couldn't do much because it was infant! The problem You're having is You think things happen overnight. 20 years of neglect of the region You think that this little maamul would be bulletproof. Teeda kale You're misinformed about Gedo. They didn't wanted no part of these groups but the people are defenseless and cannot do anything to defend themselves against a bunch of brainwashed teens with AK's slaving for an interest group that doesn't have the hormar of the people of Gedo on their agenda. The people of Gedo want to be left alone to go after their dhan and they were beginning to do that, and NGO's were planning to come. As a Guy who Has very close family members involved with Hirda, SDF I know. Now How many of these groups are going to want to come to a region that is controlled by a group who frankly says "We're Alqaeda"


Btw, Beled Xaawo which Has a very young admin are very adamant in not wanting these fake little groups coming into their town. In a matter of 8 months they have a strong admin with kala dhanbeyn and a strong civl structure. Funny thing is if You look at the clan demographic of the city, and the fact that it was an itixaad hotbed, one would think they'd be chiming for Shabab but they don't after experiencing the headache and disaster of Itixaad a group You conveniently hated, just like You conveniently loved Shabab. That was the model most of Reer Gedo should follow, wanted to follow, and need to be helped to follow so there could be some sort of tangible progress.


My last post on this topic to You Adeer




Btw nothing personal was taken. Its one of us who lost our cool here and it ain't me

[snoop12]

fadlan stop exposing our internal affairs in public, open a private forum without inviting me if you like i don’t really give a ........

theres no reason to self-destruct and in the process embarrassing beesha on the net just because your cyber pals won over you in a cyber debate, i mean what is with all this cyber pride

Again I expressed very bluntly My disagreement with something, and also expressed to You My disagreement with Your lets be passive and wait someone to save us talk. You used Your backward thinking to throw Me in a camp.

again stop linking yourself to beesha when you are on your period, or having inferiority complexity attacks, CEEB WAYE! i see your both not fit to engage with the challenges facing beesha, therefore in future allow the qualified and willing one to do their job without dishonouring their efforts with your DISGUSTING women-like CALACAL

shame on you both

[Voltage]

Murax you tend to highly personalize everything. I just can't deal with that man. I don't have a lot of stamina to engage with over-reactionary participants. You have said what you said and I have said what I said, waa yahay.

[CoolPoisons]

These Guys need to save us the calacal articles. Just a PM position in a Transitional Government in a torn up Country, its not like this is Malaysia or Venuzuala.

You don't get me. I don't mean the pm is powerless or something, I mean Mareexaanka need to understand what they are today; nothing! And they made themselves like that when they left the control of their people up to little militias high on drugs. Build a base and you get respect. For 15 years we had had probles because of warlords, militias, and iyo buuq aan dhaamanayn. Now they are just starting to realize their mistake and its refreshing.

Adeer, now You Yourself are starting to calacal way too much. 1st take a deep breath and relax because We're not missing out on much. This Gov could and most probably will fall on its face tomorrow and everybody is back to square one. The problems We had before are the same, and a PM nomination wouldn't have changed a thing. My only question to You is Why wern't You burning this much When the locally elected Administration of Gedo was ran out of the region, and the Gudoomiye of that region is sitting in Nairobi and one of the town mayors killed brutally by Shabab? You were on Here cheerleading them, what good did You expect to come out of that? All of the sudden You go in a frenzy When this meaningless snub happened. Were You planning to post a million faan topics like some of the MJ childeren on Here or something?

wow ETHER

[snoop12]

cool you think what i think??

[CoolPoisons]

Murax killed Mad_Dogg

[snoop12]

guess what they both lose

even though murax should not have encouraged voltage to continue the Calacal which would eventually be the course of his downfall, i agree with him on most points if not all (didn’t read the whole debate)


but murax is taking things too personal, it is plausible he foresaw the downfall of this great tyrant(voltage) and essentially attempted to turn the debate into a personal battle to win the heavy weight belt

what do you think cool

[sadeboi]

Murax, both you and voltage want Marexaan to get out of the situation they are in. The difference is, like qansa and xoog, you think it can only be achieved by military leaders who cannot articulately represent us in the current Somali play flied, nor have the intellectual capability to build functioning adminstrations for our regions. In the that one topic I asked xoog how can we unite Marexaan as a whole, all he could utter waa "dhulka kowdi aan xoreyno, marka we will build stuff but obviously 90% of positions will go to our side." What logic is that? Wiilsha Marexaan oo la wato oo wadaad ah miyeena dhulka uu dhalan? Tan kale he said they aren't working for Marexaan interest, well I'll be damned in the last 15 years anyone really worked for Marexaan interest. If you look at Puntland and even the current Hawiye wave, they are all lead by pliticians and educated people, their military wing has no say in their adminstrations. That is the way to move forward, settling for shipments from the port to give khat to boys with an AK will not do it for us anymore. Even when Maslax was running xoogsade was uttering I don't want him to win, I don't want this to happen and so on, for what? He had no reason other then to see Maslax as a threat to a camp he deems to lead the clan.

[Murax]

Murax, both you and voltage want Marexaan to get out of the situation they are in. The difference is, like qansa and xoog, you think it can only be achieved by military leaders who cannot articulately represent us in the current Somali play flied, nor have the intellectual capability to build functioning adminstrations for our regions. In the that one topic I asked xoog how can we unite Marexaan as a whole, all he could utter waa "dhulka kowdi aan xoreyno, marka we will build stuff but obviously 90% of positions will go to our side." What logic is that? Wiilsha Marexaan oo la wato oo wadaad ah miyeena dhulka uu dhalan? Tan kale he said they aren't working for Marexaan interest, well I'll be damned in the last 15 years anyone really worked for Marexaan interest. If you look at Puntland and even the current Hawiye wave, they are all lead by pliticians and educated people, their military wing has no say in their adminstrations. That is the way to move forward, settling for shipments from the port to give khat to boys with an AK will not do it for us anymore. Even when Maslax was running xoogsade was uttering I don't want him to win, I don't want this to happen and so on, for what? He had no reason other then to see Maslax as a threat to a camp he deems to lead the clan.

Other then the time after the Kismaayo conflict When I got out of hand, I calmed down and realized that We have a complex problem. War is not something loo degdego and since this is Marexaan on all sides I thought there could be some sort of an understanding. In addition in private discussions between You and I, I made it clear that I wasn't clapping for War. I wouldn't be one to admit stuff in private and deny it in public. A post I made in Your thread:

"TPLF cannot build a Jubbaland only a united Marexaan could"

viewtopic.php?f=26&t=198331&start=15.


When I say stuff like "our land is occupied" it is true, and I don't mean its occupied by a clan but by an idealogy that is not in our interest. Sadeboi You probably wonder Why I keep talking about this "Gedo maamul". Sxb do You know the 1st requirements of NGO's, Aid Agencies etc. to come to a region of a wartorn Country? That region that wants them to come in and work has to have an Administration that can guarantee their security, and that they can work with. You have one they can very well come. You don't have one? Its "Sorry". You say "Yea We do but they say they're linked to Al Qaeda" then You're probably getting the cops called on You. Sxb if You really think that Shabab can play a viable part of Marexaan's political future then, thats Your opinion. I know You don't so lets brainstorm ways We can fix the situation because Wallahi I don't have any ideas.

Btw, Qansa wrote this weeks ago in Coolpoison's 'Do You support Shabab thread' so I don't see How He is in this camp You identified either


"I support what is good for maatada Mareexan. Whoever brings instability and destruction to the region should be fought and evicted whether it be beesha or others. Marexaans in Shabaab and in the other camp are acting like headless chickens these days. Hawiye made peace with the Habeshi so that the Habeshi can have bases in Gedo and Al shabaab will also make peace with Hawiye while continuing to cause problems in Gedo and Jubboyinka."

Cool-Caag and Snoop Sheegato,


Voltage is 100x more intelligent than You two retarded trolls. Go find another clan because You're definitely not one of us. If You are, than Allah help us

[CoolPoisons]

^^ Murax why are U kissing Mad_Dogg's ass U focking wuss

grow a set of balls U dumb ass Ali Husein doqon

sadeboi, i dont know xoogsade didnt support Maslah. i asked him and he said he doesnt support the hutu Sharif but he supports Maslah

[xoogSADE14]

SB

Ma waqtigaagii baa la gaaray? Waxaad socotidba ma waxaad leedahay I didn't support Maslax's candidacy out of qabyaalad? Does that even make sense to you? Reer Xassan Kooshin miyaan u kala hiilinayaa?

The lion's share of the Jubbaland administration will go whoever liberates the land from these wahabi scum. Period.

Nimaan shaqeeysan shaax malaha.

This is my last response to any of this nonsense.

[sadeboi]

Xoogow, dee maskaxda ba qabyaalad ku shaqeeyo, ma ana ku iri hab-qabiil baad uu la safatay. Mise waxaan iri, because he wants the other "camp" in Doolow to have full lead of the clan, unless the "camp" is a Reer-Koshin camp then my comment did not address qabiil.

Wahabi adeer wax la daho maba aqaan. Balse, 10 sano oo la soo dhaafey maxaa mamulkaas lo dhisi waayey? Maxaase dadka reer-Jubbaland wax cad logu qabanwaayey? Mise adigu as long as xukunku la heysto dee heerki la rabey wa la gaarey miyaa?

Nimaankaas mindha dhanba uma heyaan shaax balse kobka in la badalo.