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XKeyse_ we're not talking for that sense.

we're talking how somalis misuse qabiil and that is against islam.

Somalis use qabiil in no different way then the Arabs , but you been a little Arab yourself can't tell ? The Arabs use clansim so severly that for generations one doesn't marry but his own and one doesn't support but his own, all of the Gulf states and Iraaq and almost 80% of the Arab world is ruled by 1 clan and 1 family within that clan.. so tell me how Somalis use it differently my little Cagdheer Qaadi Al Dil.?

lol your little agderr say:
arabs didnt destroy their land, killed for clanish.
they builded a most beatiful cisties and turned their little desert lands to pradise with help of Allah.

but somalis as usually misuse every thing and abuse it.

arabs respect each other and other clans and cannot cross the lines each other because they know no one will win in the end. but somalis do not know bounderies to hate.

it's a hige differences.

How Bani Umaya didn't kill thousahds of Banu Hashim? How Sadam Xuseen didn't use tribalism to destroy his country and kill ten of thousands non-Takriiti clans? How the Alawi Xaafid Al Asad not killed ten of thousands of Syrians because of his clanish rule? How many non-Cunayzi Al-Saud died by the hands of al-Saud , wasn't Al-Saud himself personnely use to deflower the virigns of the al-Shamar clans when Ibn Rashid finally was killed.

Little Cagdheer boy dust off that Cagdheer brain of yours and tell us how the somali case is any different?

XKeyse_ wrote:How Bani Umaya didn't kill thousahds of Banu Hashim? How Sadam Xuseen didn't use tribalism to destroy his country and kill ten of thousands non-Takriiti clans? How the Alawi Xaafid Al Asad not killed ten of thousands of Syrians because of his clanish rule? How many non-Cunayzi Al-Saud died by the hands of al-Saud , wasn't Al-Saud himself personnely use to deflower the virigns of the al-Shamar clans when Ibn Rashid finally was killed.

Little Cagdheer boy dust off that Cagdheer brain of yours and tell us how the somali case is any different?

heres the difference

those countries today are rich

somalis have nothing

even Iraq is a 100 years ahead of somalia

XKeyse_ wrote:How Bani Umaya didn't kill thousahds of Banu Hashim? How Sadam Xuseen didn't use tribalism to destroy his country and kill ten of thousands non-Takriiti clans? How the Alawi Xaafid Al Asad not killed ten of thousands of Syrians because of his clanish rule? How many non-Cunayzi Al-Saud died by the hands of al-Saud , wasn't Al-Saud himself personnely use to deflower the virigns of the al-Shamar clans when Ibn Rashid finally was killed.

Little Cagdheer boy dust off that Cagdheer brain of yours and tell us how the somali case is any different?

Killed to get the govern and control and they builded the culture, religion, science and every other expect includinmg education.

but likes you full of hate and destroy every thing mentality.
no one abuses and misuses as somalis about 3asabiya and qabaliya.

im aware of al 3abas al awal or as many books refer al3abas's al safaa7.

but he was smart who devolped the khilafah and built culture and history.

that is the sense of differences. and that is hundred of years ago, so you admitting somalis now like arabs hundered of yearsago and are you happy with that?

whats richness has to do with the structure and use of clansim, even Somalia was doing fine in the 1970's despite the Daarood sucking the blood of the nations. clansim is clanism and the use of it is the same wether you are rich or wether you are a poor, where does it says if clansim makes you rich for a while..keep using it?

"Killed to get the govern and control and they builded the culture, religion, science and every other expect includinmg education"

cagdheer boy,

you can't debate you keep shifting the parameters, now you have shifted your argument to saying " if you kill and steal to gain power then its ok" whats the difference Said Bare your uncle and your Daarood tribe did the same and few years later they crossed the border faster then Cabdi Bile leaving their women and childern behind. Clansim is clansim and its the same in Arabia and in Somalia, simply because the former is now stable doesn't make it better then the somali version.

XKeyse_ wrote:whats richness has to do with the structure and use of clansim, even Somalia was doing fine in the 1970's despite the Daarood sucking the blood of the nations. clansim is clanism and the use of it is the same wether you are rich or wether you are a poor, where does it says if clansim makes you rich for a while..keep using it?

despite the clannism, arabism are much more civilized with it by not engaging in fruitless civil wars

they may dislike each other, but they are rich for seeing the stability of peace and their oil reserves

what can lamagoodleys like you say?

you got a million camels from you great great great grandfather or your ancestors killed hebel hebel

fock outta here nicca

im debatting you man. im telling you the differences.

you admitted somalis are now like hundered years ago where arabs stand while fighting for khilafah or 7okum.

look arabs now, they have their qabils as their last name and no one killing or hatting each other like somalis do. yes that is differences adeer.

FAH1223 wrote:

XKeyse_ wrote:whats richness has to do with the structure and use of clansim, even Somalia was doing fine in the 1970's despite the Daarood sucking the blood of the nations. clansim is clanism and the use of it is the same wether you are rich or wether you are a poor, where does it says if clansim makes you rich for a while..keep using it?

despite the clannism, arabism are much more civilized with it by not engaging in fruitless civil wars

they may dislike each other, but they are rich for seeing the stability of peace and their oil reserves

what can lamagoodleys like you say?



you got a million camels from you great great great grandfather or your ancestors killed hebel hebel

fock outta here nicca

do not bother. he is happy we are backwards for few hundred years.

and we killing each other like owz and khazraj.

people moved on and we're just starting over stupid wars for: im better than you shit!

I have never seen somalis killing one another just out of entertainment, for example Isaaq killing your Ogaadeens who settled in their home in the 1988-1989 wasn't due because you were Ogaadeen , it was because you were theifs that dispossessed other people of their home.. and now that isn't clanism its simple human nature.

Now one thing is sure you are confusing the petro $$$ with the Arab clansim, 99% of that Petro Dollar is shared by the ruling Arab clan and the rest of it goes to the colonial protector be it USA in the case of Al-Saud and their Unayzi clan.

FAH1223 wrote:

XKeyse_ wrote:whats richness has to do with the structure and use of clansim, even Somalia was doing fine in the 1970's despite the Daarood sucking the blood of the nations. clansim is clanism and the use of it is the same wether you are rich or wether you are a poor, where does it says if clansim makes you rich for a while..keep using it?

despite the clannism, arabism are much more civilized with it by not engaging in fruitless civil wars

they may dislike each other, but they are rich for seeing the stability of peace and their oil reserves

what can lamagoodleys like you say?

you got a million camels from you great great great grandfather or your ancestors killed hebel hebel

fock outta here nicca

I understand being objective about your people but your crossing to the self hate corner. Let me ask you something if the arabs are so civilized then why are the palestinians being exterminated right under their noises? 300 million people being help hostage by 5 million jews, that says alot about arabs.

GENERAL_SNM wrote:
I understand being objective about your people but your crossing to the self hate corner. Let me ask you something if the arabs are so civilized then why are the palestinians being exterminated right under their noises? 300 million people being help hostage by 5 million jews, that says alot about arabs.

Its not self hate bro, its just being realistic. Why argue over towns with no modern enemities while you live a nice life in the UK or elsewhere...what are you achieving? I mean are you better than me just cause Burco has peace and B.Weyne has seen war? Doesn't make sense and its so irrational.

I said the arabs were rich and had developed countries while Somalis have nothing.

I never said they were highly skilled warriors.

XKeyse_ wrote:I have never seen somalis killing one another just out of entertainment, for example Isaaq killing your Ogaadeens who settled in their home in the 1988-1989 wasn't due because you were Ogaadeen , it was because you were theifs that dispossessed other people of their home.. and now that isn't clanism its simple human nature.

Now one thing is sure you are confusing the petro $$$ with the Arab clansim, 99% of that Petro Dollar is shared by the ruling Arab clan and the rest of it goes to the colonial protector be it USA in the case of Al-Saud and their Unayzi clan.

well then what you call destoying a country nas coas over 20 years of civil war?

arab are civilized even with their clanish and somalis or most of them are barbaric mentality.

FAH1223 wrote:

GENERAL_SNM wrote:
I understand being objective about your people but your crossing to the self hate corner. Let me ask you something if the arabs are so civilized then why are the palestinians being exterminated right under their noises? 300 million people being help hostage by 5 million jews, that says alot about arabs.

Its not self hate bro, its just being realistic. Why argue over towns with no modern enemities while you live a nice life in the UK or elsewhere...what are you achieving? I mean are you better than me just cause Burco has peace and B.Weyne has seen war? Doesn't make sense and its so irrational.

I said the arabs were rich and had developed countries while Somalis have nothing.

I never said they were highly skilled warriors.

Its a little unfair to compare 300 million arabs to 30 mill somalis. You should compare them to other equal in numbers races. I mean compare the arabs to the indians or malaysians or anybody else, they've just been lucky that allah has rewrded them with natural resources otherwise they would be in the same boat as us. Imagine somalis with that sort of money every warlord would be bought out and paid to behave. Thats what happens in the arab world, they are economys that wont be sustained without pertrol dollars.
As for Burco and the south we'll just have to get along.....
Yesterday I was at a family gathering with all my nephews and they are all mixture of tribes young innocent kids, who if they all follow the expectations of their tribes will be enemys in the future. Times like that is when you realize how stupid qabil is....

Hyper, No difference between a bedouin arab and a geljiree...
The city folks might be different because once hungry and hopeless and the other has had a bit of education and has a future.