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I don't get it..didn't they try this in 1991?

Camel_herder wrote:This guy is confused, jelouse and filled with blind ambition which will lead him nowhere!

First of all #1) Hawiye need to stop claiming whats not theirs and start investing in their cities instead of moving 60% of hawiye population into the somali capital city of muqadishu which is not even 500 sq.km - that's over population - which will create poverty, lack of advancement and poor health conditions. Why not start a beautifull city near the shabeele reiver half way between jawhar and xamar and design a city with schools, hospital etc, etc...with clean supply of water, etc, etc.

#2) Do not bet on Muqdishu if it is going to remain the nations capital city, because it won't provide for you only.
you need do develop Jawhar, Dhusaamareeb, Hobyo, Ceelbuur, Mareeg, and other cities you can actually claim.

#3) Forget about Kismaayo! Forget about Gaalkacyo! There's uprsing in lower shabeele to draw a red line between the new encrouching hawiyes and the original digil&mirifl and biyamal settlers. Gaalkacyo is Darood strong hold, 90% is settled by Darood, if you don't believe me go and see it for yourself. Baraxleey is like a neighbourhood of greater gaalkacyo, sure sacad live there, but so does Darood people in Xamar, that does not mean Darood is going to own xamar, lol.
Go back in history and find out when Sacad moved into Gaalkacyo, it was under italian order when they made the map to allow sacad to settle in gaalkacyo, before that Gaalkacyo had only 2 water wells one belonged to Leelkase and the other one belonged to Majerteen.

So to make matters even worse, your claim to Gaalkacyo is invalid, since you've been placed there by italians and not by birth.

p.s. I have a better claim to Hobyo than you do to Gaalkacyo, at least my subclans patriarch "Mahamed Muumin" is buried few kilometers from Hobyo, which was like over 500 yrs ago.
Ask any elderly somali who hails from Mudug, he will tell you the same!

Get the fock out of here man, your demographics knowledge is absolute zero.

1) The most strategic areas of Mudug is xarardheere, hobyo and gaalkacyo. they are resided by hawiye sub clans. infact, there are four sub clans of hawiye that live in mudug, they are sacad, saleebaan, waceysle (abgaal) and sheikhaal. south gaalkacyo is part of galmudug, so irregardless of history, that half of gaalkacyo is resided by sacad whether you like it or not. hobyo was the capital of hiraab imamate, its always been a HG town, your grandfather can be buried wherever he wants, he doesnt mean anything.

2) hawiye does reside between kismayo to gaalkacyo, we dont have mere claims, we reside in the towns we say we reside in.



theres muqdisho, jowhar, beledweyne, marka and hobyo which are majority hawiye, gaalkacyo and mudug in general is 50/50, kismayo is very small numbers, probably 10% or something.

^^^ Jowhar is a Shiidle degaan and Marka is Biimaal.

abakar20 wrote:Look at your ignorance, you don't even know who are the Silcis clan and you have the nerve to tell me Hawiye don't reside in those towns. Infact, Mudug region is as much Hawiye's as it's Darood. Half of Gaalkacyo city is part of Galmudug so that kills your arguement about that.

Never heard of Silcis, dont try to shove it down peoples throat, I know abgaal, habar gidir, murursade and few more, unless silcis is another name for the ones I mention than I dont have the nerves, I have facts buddy which are pilloral contraceptive, u can either convince urself incorrect information underpinned by an emotional or spiritual sense of certainty or u can accept my statement that corresponds to fact and reality.

Fact is.

Kismaayo is majority darood

<cannot be disputed>

galgacyo is also Majority darood

and dont come here with that 50/50 bulshid, I been to galgacyo and know much more than u do, Sacad do have their section but that's nothing compared to the sections of Majeerteen, leelkase, other hartis and other daroods etc.


so, how can anysane person in the name of his qabiil claims something that he has absolutely nothing to do with it?

advo
there are daarood subclans which i dont know walahi...and there are hawiye subclans which u dont know....stop this childish rantings...silcis are hawiye heavyweights waryaaa...
from gaalkacyo to kismaayo ilaa kenya to somalia galbeed ayuu hawiye dagaa....

Crazy Idea..

Anything between Shabelada dhexe & South of Galkaacyo is Ok. (with the exception of western Galgaduud)

Shabellada hose, Bay & Bakool should be United under Digil & Mirifle with Baydhabo as its Capital & Marko as its port.

Jubbaland is out of the question its Daarod with Kismayo as its capital.

Have any of you ever been to Gaalkacyo! Wallahi Billahi Baraxley is not even 25% of the city let alone anything els.

Addoow wrote:stop this childish rantings...silcis are hawiye heavyweights waryaaa...

too funny....

Addow,

Be honest you heard of Silcis on snet didn't you?

Shirib wrote:^^^ Jowhar is a Shiidle degaan and Marka is Biimaal.

get out man, shiidle are bantus that only went to jowhar in the 19th century, i know that coz their patriach is a guy called kaboole, they adopted that name from their owners who is a murusade guy. jowhar and the rest of that region is mudulood's and galjecel country, otherwise saying jowhar is shiidle is like saying all of lower shabelle is hawiye's! anyway, shabelle hoose has hawiye's footprints there because buulo murusade is at least 4 great villages in that region such as day maroodi, all of it is called afarta dayood!

Babygirl- wrote:Crazy Idea..

Anything between Shabelada dhexe & South of Galkaacyo is Ok. (with the exception of western Galgaduud)

Shabellada hose, Bay & Bakool should be United under Digil & Mirifle with Baydhabo as its Capital & Marko as its port.

Jubbaland is out of the question its Daarod with Kismayo as its capital.

if merexaans continue to claim that part of galgaduud then hawiye has full rights to claim mudug because we reside in south galkacyo, xarardheere, gelinsoor and hobyo in the bare minimum! they're the most strategic and major towns of the entire region.

Abakar20, Calaacal baa wada, we control Galkayo and we also control the Sacad sh1thole section as well, got muscle come and get it. It's funny when an Afar qooble screaming from Dayniile to get some of Galkayo, war move around nigga

And Kismayo is Darood City ,


Concentrate on Moqdisho for now

Captain24 wrote:Abakar20, Calaacal baa wada, we control Galkayo and we also control the Sacad sh1thole section as well, got muscle come and get it. It's funny when an Afar qooble screaming from Dayniile to get some of Galkayo, war move around nigga

And Kismayo is MAREHAN City ,


Concentrate on Moqdisho for now

indeed, further 20,000 Rer Dalal are going there to seal the deal of dominance

Snoop, Ok Marehan is part of Darod right?

Either way, When there are hutus around, I give Marehan a breathing room, so don't let me start on Kismayo affairs