islamic Question 2all somali ppl

[Buhodle-Gurl]

P.s
Surrender quit editing the name list.

[Babygirl-]

@ Garacyahow laso hindhisaay!!

Waar leave the girl just answer the question acuudubilaah..

Buhodle

[surrender]

P.s
Surrender quit editing the name list.

sorry!

[Air Canada]

surrender

I will ask you one question before i leave you. My question is, if you were left with no choice but to either surrender and bend over for a wadaad or an Ethiopian...who would you surrender to?

[Babygirl-]

Air-Walee Aqli Dameer ina tahay..

[Basra-]

Surrender


u r an IDIOT. That question is NOT an ISLAMIC question. Its a qabil question. Basically, u r asking whether its okey to invade prosperous somaliland and contaminate it with your Dhoro shananigans. Istupiraad waxiiid.

[Somaliman50]

I think the ICU had a better approach when it came to influencing areas of Somalia out of their control. Did you know when the ICU were in Mogadishu consolidating their power, there were many Sheikhs from Northern Somalia who had contacts with the ICU and were attempting to establish Islamic Courts in those areas too? Thats when Somaliland and Puntland started to panic because those Sheikhs were threatening their regional administrations if they didn't comply with Sharicatul Islam.

[LaQaNyO]

well the Q is: ISLAMICALLY can they (the religious groups) have right to invade those regions and force them to sumbit.?

is there any religious proof that gives these groups the right to go and inavade other people's lands???

please answer kindly, i really need to know this.[/color][/b]

If you mean Invasion as in attack or violation then its stated NO WAR is allowed in Islam but for Allah sake, to push back the enemy (enemy= infidel/unbeliever), the gross injustice (oppression of Muslims) or to smash the aggressive forces (those attacking you because of Islam). Early suraats of the quran such as AL Baqara, Al Imraan, Maida etc talk about this topic area (war).

Technically it can be argued that these religious groups are not invading any land... the land is still of Somali people (unless you are talking about qabil territories) and even then these religious groups consist of people from different regional areas/qabils.

In contrast their purpose can also be questioned... because, who are they fighting? their fellow brethrens in Islam and compatriots! therefore what is the point? are they fighting unbelievers? oppression? or are they retaliating against aggressive forces? I think one has to know a bit more about Somalia's political situation as well as Religion to try and answer your question sis. Lol and i am illiterate when it comes to Somali Politics.


PS: not sure if i answered your Q but thanks for your acknowledgment abaayo.

[Warsan_Star_Muslimah]

Surrender Abaayo,

Somalia at a certain point in history become secular, and because of that the people become less into the deen, it started to become, an Eid, Ramadan, or Friday thing.

The way I see it, if the Somali people are doing something Islamically wrong then they should be corrected, alot of the people are 'Muslim by name' and do not understand the Islamic teachings properly and what they are doing is wrong.

The problem in my eyes is that you have hundreds of 'islamic groups' springing out of nowhere these days, claiming they are the right ones and they should be followed etc, who do I believe? Who is right? It is all blurred. The sitaution is total anarchy, but if one group succeeds above all others and implements order and Sharia law (in the south say first), then you best bet they can under Islam have legitimate excuse to venture to areas such as Puntland and Somaliland, why? Well because they are implementing the Islamic law and getting rid of man-made ones. Also, keep in mind they wouldn't be invading anywhere, those areas are technically part of Somalia. If they were internationally recognised then ofcourse that is a different story altogether.

Also if the country has a president 'willing' to implement Sharia law this 'groups' lose Islamic legitmacy, because their only excuse was to implement Sharia law.

Hey, do ask this question a proper Sheikh or someone well-versed in Islam fiqh.

Salaam
Wallahu alim

[Shirib]

I'm not a person of great Islamic knowledge but thanks for including me

Anyways surrender the thing really is simple, if they don't try to take it over we're just gonna have our little tribal enclaves for ever

[Abmn]

well the Q is: ISLAMICALLY can they (the religious groups) have right to invade those regions and force them to sumbit.?

If the authorities in those regions rule with Shariica, if they don't have good relations with the enemy (i.e. Ethiopia, America, etc) and if they are willing to join the Islamic Caliphate-- then, the religious groups have no right to invade those regions.

[surrender]

Surrender


u r an IDIOT. That question is NOT an ISLAMIC question. Its a qabil question. Basically, u r asking whether its okey to invade prosperous somaliland and contaminate it with your Dhoro shananigans. Istupiraad waxiiid.

naa adaa istupirad ahe!! re-read what i wrote, waxyahay waalan!!!

abakar: but remeber the outcome of that was a bloody war, that many people die. so im thinking, though these groups prolly want to achieve sharia law in all somali lands, the way they going about is wrong, no?

Warsan: thanks for that sister! i understand what you saying, but to impelement the sharia law is an area, dot you think you need to look how that certain areas is governmened? i mean if the people that governed that area, are muslims and do follow the islamic laws, do you thin these groups have the right to charge in that area, and order around people.

another issue will be, that the negative outcome of the activities caused by groups will outwight than if they stayed away from it.
ps: im going to ask wadaada this Q, the next maxadiro.


laqanyo: sis i hear you, but say if these tribel terroteries were ruled/governed indvidualky, according to the onwers of that land. dont you think these groups have no right to invade a region/terroteries that is already governed, and is peaceful?

shrib: i agree in a way, but as i said before the outcome of their "jihaad" is worser than the current people that governed these terroterries,!

Abmn: are you saying these groups are bringing the Islamic Caliphate to our door step.? is that how the the original Islamic Caliphate went about in bringing the sharia law to other people?

[subeir123]

Runti i would never trust or listen to a faqash wadaad

[surrender]

but you listened to faqash president!

[Shirib]

shrib: i agree in a way, but as i said before the outcome of their "jihaad" is worser than the current people that governed these terroterries,!

When ur doing a deep cleaning of your house what happens first? Your house gets a lot dirtier but eventually it get cleanlier than the beginning.

Wadaado took over Kismaayo, war took place for two days and then the city became safer than it was way before. I would expect similar results if that happened in other areas.