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Voltage wrote:

abakar20 wrote:]Those who could possibly be charged; A/Y, Mohamed Dhere, Hiiraale and the rest of the USC wankers

Don't compare Barre Hiiraale to people who used to set up isbaaro and make old women pay their weight in money. Barre Hiiraale didn't go and invade anywhere, he joined his people in defending themselves from USC and their allies when they came to Gedo and he went to kick Morgan out of Kismaayo after he started harassing his clan.

Learn the difference between war criminals who attack and make old women pay check point money equal to their weight and people who defend their people.

When the Tutsi were getting attacked, Paul Kagame fought but because he was defending his people and he is today president while the Hutus who were attacking the people are the ones on war crime trials now. Just because you fought doesn't make you a war criminal, it's what you fought for.

This dude is really a joke. one day he come out as new born muslim and the next day he is supporting ethiopian stooge who brought tigre into bardheere so they could help capture dhul uu san lahayn. under his watch women was raped, people were assesinated and whole city was roped and raped.

Those who could possibly be charged; A/Y, Mohamed Dhere, Hiiraale and the rest of the USC wankers

When did Hiiraale become a warlord? As far as I can remember, he was not a hawiye.

BaasAbuur wrote:

Those who could possibly be charged; A/Y, Mohamed Dhere, Hiiraale and the rest of the USC wankers

When did Hiiraale become a warlord? As far as I can remember, he was not a hawiye.

Why did you stop using your more familiar nick?? or you want inaad baasabuur noqotid ayamahan??

just like the TFG parliament.. i guarantee you the war criminials are going to be 70% hawiye.

Truth and reconciliation forums would never work in our nation! The victim and victimizes lines are blurred to the point where one starts where the other stops. Besides, the warlords have pulled the redemption card, and gotten reestablished into leadership positions throughout the 2 decades. Some have apparently even found religion. And you know how sticky religion makes things. Most claim that they did what had to do on the basis of securing their "qabiils" interests, when you and I clearly know that's never been the case. I think we oughta just ka wareejin their influence as much as we can and punish whomever is doing the most harm today. AND just leave it that. Besides, the difference between Muslims and Gaalo is that unlike them, we can rest assured seeing how everyone last one them will get what they have coming to them.

going after warlords and somali war criminals is counter productive. almost every somali has a killer or two in their family ( 1st uncles and cousins included )

abakar20 wrote:

Voltage wrote:

abakar20 wrote:]Those who could possibly be charged; A/Y, Mohamed Dhere, Hiiraale and the rest of the USC wankers

Don't compare Barre Hiiraale to people who used to set up isbaaro and make old women pay their weight in money. Barre Hiiraale didn't go and invade anywhere, he joined his people in defending themselves from USC and their allies when they came to Gedo and he went to kick Morgan out of Kismaayo after he started harassing his clan.

Learn the difference between war criminals who attack and make old women pay check point money equal to their weight and people who defend their people.

When the Tutsi were getting attacked, Paul Kagame fought but because he was defending his people and he is today president while the Hutus who were attacking the people are the ones on war crime trials now. Just because you fought doesn't make you a war criminal, it's what you fought for.

I have seen you critisizing Indhacadde and accusing him of being a criminal, why not Hiiraale who was in the same group as him? Barre Hiiraale is a proffesional warlord, he may not have started as one, but everybody knows he illegaly took the profits from Kismayo Seaport and the charcoal business. We all know how his militia treated the Bantus and other minorities there, we all know how he said ' For Hawiye, we will bring the Jews'. We all know how he has militia being trained in Sodere and Mustaxiil to recapture lands from forces which are supported by the residents because they pledge the deen. You for one cannot talk about justice and who is a war criminal since your status as a flipflopper and a clan supporter is well known in Snet.

If we judge somebody based on what he fought for, irregardless of what he does later on, should we consider Aideed a war criminal? He apparently saved the nation from dictatorship. He is not alive, but had he been alive, would you have wanted him to face war charges?

Lol @ he said I will get jews for Hawiye or he was in any other group. Listen to me well Qanyare's little nephew, Barre Hiiraale was not a warlord, he was a political leader. He never was in any group with Indhacade, there was a heshiis between Indhacade's clan and our clan to get some of our weapons down from Galgaduud and Barre Hiiraale went on the BBC to show how much he would defeat the wadaado who invaded him even when he was against the Ethiopians. Now listen here Qanyare's little nephew, it is your uncle Qanyare who used to grap anyone with a beard and sell him to anti-terrorism activities, it was your own Qanyare whose militias used to rape and rob even Murusade old ladies and girl's. It was your uncle Qanyare who used to go and have serfs among his own Murusade in the couple Muursade neighborhoods he controlled in Xamar. That is a warlord. Is Barre Hiiraale guilty of some things? Maybe he is not perfect, but dont you dare compare him to your people or your warlords in Xamar because Barre Hiiraale never had isbaaro, he never robbed old women, and he didn't rape little girls. Your uncles did that which is why you want everyone to go down with you but that is not how the world works.