Isaak people stop this somaliland thing

[GENERAL_SNM]

First of all difference of opinion leads to a healthy debate so lets all hear what this new brother has to say. Second you cant stop people in somaliland or outside somaliland discussing the idea of unity by threatening to expel them inorder to shut them up. Thats not democracy thats fascisim.

To the brother who posed the question of unity. Can I ask you what have you got for me to unite with you. Qabil aside southern somalia is on fire do you want me to come and burn my house with you, wouldn't it be wiser for you to get your house in order first before we become a whole.

[Queen_Arawello]

I was born in the so called Somaliland so was my mother and my father so I have every right to talk about its future. General_s n m I am Daarood. If qabil means anything. Ducaysane how is my blood not from there.

because the pure somalilanders are isaaq and gadabursi and some dhulbahntes or warsangelis thats if they are pro somaliland if not then you can fuck off to your darood cave for example a isaaq person born in puntland does that mean they are puntlander? the answer is no so shut the fuck up

Cajib!! you're half darood ( your mother is Lelkase) and you're talking like this

[GENERAL_SNM]

I was born in the so called Somaliland so was my mother and my father so I have every right to talk about its future. General_s n m I am Daarood. If qabil means anything. Ducaysane how is my blood not from there.

because the pure somalilanders are isaaq and gadabursi and some dhulbahntes or warsangelis thats if they are pro somaliland if not then you can fuck off to your darood cave for example a isaaq person born in puntland does that mean they are puntlander? the answer is no so shut the fuck up

Cajib!! you're half darood ( your mother is Lelkase) and you're talking like this

The pot calling the ket black. How many of you guys are half iidoor and talk ill of your rear abti?

[The_Emperior5]

qubbato we dont care about somalia or somaliweyn or mogadisho or any other somalis
somaliland wa muqadis jiritaankeeda

[GENERAL_SNM]

qubbato we dont care about somalia or somaliweyn or mogadisho or any other somalis
somaliland wa muqadis jiritaankeeda

'WE' speak for yourself sxb, some us do care about what happens to other somalis and if you dont, try not to assume everyone else share your sentiment.

[Cumar-Labasuul]

Sister if it was that simple we would of united a long time ago. But somalidu waa xaasidiin, they wanna all have power and the most land thats why they use the 4.5 system. So if thats what we will expect if we unite then were better off like this.

[The_Emperior5]

Genereel siyaaasdu saaxiib ma leh sxb iska da jil jileeyca somalidu konfuurta iyaku ha is badbaadiyan kala danbeynta iyaka diidan marka what can i do for them.

[GENERAL_SNM]

Genereel siyaaasdu saaxiib ma leh sxb iska da jil jileeyca somalidu konfuurta iyaku ha is badbaadiyan kala danbeynta iyaka diidan marka what can i do for them.

Wish them the best? To not feel anything for another human suffering is sick, and to not feel for a somali suffering is just wrong on many levels. Now if thats the way you feel, fair enough but dont assume that every other person from somaliland is like you. Most of us hope and prey allah helps them get on their feet and give them the peace we have.

[Queen_Arawello]

isaaak people you guys stop dreaming you will never have a country that you control and where you are 90% majority we the other Somalis will never allow that and we will for ever fight this idea called Somali land.

You have to join Somalia you rule it but don’t divide the county why do just want your little part of the country if you can rule all of it or are you guys selfish. And don’t you care about the rest of Somalis. I have been to hargeysa its nice city and well build but why don’t you wane share with the rest of the Somalis
Reer sh isxaaqow damiir xummada iska dayaa Somali soo raaca


Don’t dream about a isaaq state that you control with your own flag embassy's Military strength we can never allow that. I know what you want and you will never achieve that goal.

The problem is Somalilanders cannot really state a valid reason to be recognised without getting all emotional and playing the victim mentality card (the massacres of 80's ), and majority of the landers in the diaspora are poorly informed, we all know Somaliland officials are skilled at masterminding propaganda, walle they must have studied Joseph Goebbels tactics ..There is a false assumption that all Reer Sheik Isaxaaq are monolithic and that they all support secession, that is a sweeping overgeneralization, large sections of the Isaaq clan do still remain patriotic unionists, notably the Garxajis who had an honourable leading role in the independence struggle for the Somali people everywhere..This whole secession is the work of our enemies..let me just say am not taking away what Somaliland has achieved ( peace ,stability and since 91 it has run its own economy ) but that is not valid reason to why it should be accepted as a sovereign nation..so landers put aside your pride...


Since the secession was declared, the antipathy towards the rest of Somalis in Somalia had reached intolerable proportions. Who would have believed until recently that a time will come when Somali nationals living lawfully in Hargeisa, as Somali citizens, or coming as visitors, would be “deported” as illegal aliens while foreigners such as Ethiopians, and even Israelis, are affectionately welcomed? The problem with the secessionists is that there are no leaders with vision, courage and integrity who are prepared to face to the hard facts and the necessary decisions even if they have to risk initial unpopularity. Those who are presently in government or in the opposition parties have come to outdo one another in their eagerness to endear themselves to the uninformed masses that have been daily fed with anti-Somalia hate propaganda.

This distancing from the rest of Somalia is not a new phenomenon related to the secession and recognition goals. It goes back to the early 1950s when some sections of the Isaaq clan in former British Somaliland opposed the raising of the S.Y.L flag at its office in Burco which led to the famous S.Y.L. verse: “Sanduluu ku iman saca faarsa tegey saddex maalintuu qado, sawaxaa ka dhigan safka haatan yidhi Soomaali aan diidno”.

[MrPrestige]

Queen Arawello let me ask a question in your opinion would you like to see somaliland being part of somalia?

[Cumar-Labasuul]

The problem is Somalilanders cannot really state a valid reason to be recognised without getting all emotional and playing the victim mentality card (the massacres of 80's ), and majority of the landers in the diaspora are poorly informed, we all know Somaliland officials are skilled at masterminding propaganda, walle they must have studied Joseph Goebbels tactics ..

Walaal Isaaq were massacred by Afweyne regime there's no victim card to play. Isaaq were one of the most patriotic when going to war in the ogaden war in '77 and what did we get for our troubles, we got Gadabursi, Ogaden, Dhulbahante and Marehan all part of the SNA butchering Isaaq just because we when against a regime. So if we want to seceed it's our choice not anyone elses.

[The_Emperior5]

Queeen arawelo where do you get that garxajis is pro somaliweyn or something like that. isaaq had its internal affairs but they do not support that concept. Garxajis is lafdhabarti Somaliland they where first president.
Honey we where a country before Somalia even existed just like Eritrea we joined Somalia to create somaliweyn that didn’t work and we went our own way Just like Djibouti.

Somaliland is a new reality in 1991 there for every one who comes to somaliland after 1991 is a foreigner based on our new rules and laws and constitution because waanu la soo noqonay gobonimadii 1960 and you know that now ma ceeb ba i wish dadka somalida all the best and there somalia and there Mogadishu all I just say is I wish not to be part of it get of my Peepz lool
Today every Somaliland citizen has its own Id card and the people come are welcome but they are just foreigners. Queen just because I share the same language as a person Somalia is not a valid reason to be from the same country Djibouti we speak the same language they are even closer to us then walanweynta if we look at our accent and theirs its almost the same but Somaliland is not part of Djibouti . even though there is a cultural ties and family ties between the to country’s
There are 23 arab states who speak the same language and same culture they are not the same country come with something better.

we had our own political party’s usp nuf usp . Those where the Somaliland political party’s and you know it and the syl was for Somalia we had nothing to do with that.

We are very self determent and our message is clear the independence of Somaliland is sacred every somalilander believes that.

[Salah Al-Din]

Assalaamu Alaikum,

Qubbato, you're grossly mistaken when you equate Somaliland and Isaaq. Isaaq is a clan, just like any other clan. Bring your tribes men and any issues you have with Isaaq will be addressed under the acacia tree using the Somali Xeer. However, if your issue is with Somaliland's sovereignty then I'm saddned to inform you that is non-negotiable. Politic Somali unity is an ideal whose time has come and gone. Somaliland and Somalia already tried that experiment. Nevertheless, other forms of union could take place, be it religious, economical, cultural, academic, etc. There is no love lost between Somaliland and Somalia, I'm sure you will find many families who are inter related and have different people from the 5 different regions Somali's inhabit. This doesn't mean we must all be under one political entity. Finally, at the moment Somaliland is on its own course to build and strengthen its institutions and work on good governance. Maybe once we in Somaliland claim mission accomplished we can lend a hand to Somalia or any other region be it Djibouti, etc.

As for Araweelo, Somaliland did not join Somalia by force as you allude to in your last sentence. It joined Somalia to form a new country called the Somali Democratic republic. Unfortunately, after carrying the burnt of the sacrifices to bring this about, it has all been for nought. The relationship has ended regardless of the circumstances, and I'm sure if Somalia dusts its self from the anarchy that has plauged it for nearly 18 years that it would stomach another civil war to attempt to bring political unity with Somaliland. It just wouldn't make any sense.

Wassalaam Wa bilaahi Towfiiq

[Queen_Arawello]

Queen Arawello let me ask a question in your opinion would you like to see somaliland being part of somalia?

In terms of international law is already part of Somalia proper.

[MrPrestige]

Queen Arawello let me ask a question in your opinion would you like to see somaliland being part of somalia?

In terms of international law is already part of Somalia proper.

but we dont care what the international view we will get our recognition soon as long as we know we run our affairs that makes our own country but hey guys inaanta iska dhaafa shes ogaden queen