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Re: New classification for extremists in the UK?

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1_londoner wrote:That is so stupid...laakiin id still much rather live here than mareykanka xun.
i agree with you lol. america has worser fitnah than here!
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Qubbato wrote:i dont like argagixiso
who does? :idea:
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Re: New classification for extremists in the UK?

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Dr Yalaxow; Doesn't matter if you don't agree with them all! If you agree with them one, then you are an extremist.

BTW, it was not only Africans that were being sold as slaves in the caliphate, it was Whites, Arabs, Asians, etc just about anyone.

Listen, Jihaad is a fundamental part of Islam. You are correct in saying that Jihaad of nafs is mentioned, laakin there is Jihaad of fighting-war! Caaqli miya for people to come and kill and you do nothing? This defies the human logic, if we are attacked, we will defend ourselves.

Oh, the Sharia in Islam helps the poor! Why do you think the Zakah goes to? And the Bayt al-Mal (Public treasury) all of these were to help the poor and those in need. Sharia law is a complex law and cannot be reduced to cutting hands or heads, it is not as simple as that. Someone steals - get them, chop them.

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Are you telling me girl? I aced that test. :roll: :rose:

Londoner; Sis, :rose: Ruunti, I'm contend living here, in the sense that I grew up here and I'm used to it. But there comes a time in life, where you just have to pack your bags and go. :lol: Hit the road Warsan waa Sheekada. Malaysia here I come. :rose: :lol:

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Re: New classification for extremists in the UK?

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Warsan_Star_Muslimah wrote:The government is considering plans that would lead to thousands more British Muslims being branded as extremists, the Guardian has learned. The proposals are in a counterterrorism strategy which ministers and security officials are drawing up that is due to be unveiled next month.

people would be considered as extremists if:

• They advocate a caliphate, a pan-Islamic state encompassing many countries.

• They promote Sharia law.

• They believe in jihad, or armed resistance, anywhere in the world. This would include armed resistance by Palestinians against the Israeli military.

• They argue that Islam bans homosexuality and that it is a sin against Allah.

• They fail to condemn the killing of British soldiers in Iraq or Afghanistan.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009 ... gy-muslims

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

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How stupid and ridiculous is that? Anyway, I don't really believe what the newspapers write.
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Re: New classification for extremists in the UK?

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We have chosen to live in this country,,We must all accept their rules or leave and go back to somalia,,qasab naguma ahan in aan halkan joogno,,aniga marwalba oo aan wadan ka dhoofaya airport silly question ayey igu weydiiyaan..
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Diyeeshaha_Tolka wrote:We have chosen to live in this country,,We must all accept their rules or leave and go back to somalia,,qasab naguma ahan in aan halkan joogno,,aniga marwalba oo aan wadan ka dhoofaya airport silly question ayey igu weydiiyaan..

:lol: Dude, you must look seriously suspicious or something because no body's ever asked me any questions while flying out. They just check the passport and exchange pleasantries...the usual thank you and have a nice flight.
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Re: New classification for extremists in the UK?

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Warsan_Star_Muslimah wrote:
BTW, it was not only Africans that were being sold as slaves in the caliphate, it was Whites, Arabs, Asians, etc just about anyone.
slaves in the former caliphate xukunkoodii waxay ahaayeen 99% black africans.even in that caliphate TIME, from umayadiin to abasiyiin to osmaaniyiin, word black was synonymous = slave. if you were a black person in the caliphate time probably you were owned by middle eastern person .in the market black human beens were sold.under caliphate tyou can go any market and buy 10 years old girl and use her as sex slave. :down: :down: ah caliphates from muwaaciya was dynasty system of government, when the caliph dies hes fat son will inharates the leadership, marka tell me about what was so good about caliphates?

wahabi saudi scholars are blind and stupid and their igrorant students like al shabaab and other morons are those who they want to go back the caliphate dictiotorship throw suicide bombing inay dad islaam dilaan sida xamar somali :down: xaqiiqdii dadkaas waa dad aan islam waxba ka aqoon.
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Listen, Jihaad is a fundamental part of Islam. You are correct in saying that Jihaad of nafs is mentioned, laakin there is Jihaad of fighting-war! Caaqli miya for people to come and kill and you do nothing? This defies the human logic, if we are attacked, we will defend ourselves.


the real jihaad is not the war its your as person inaad noqoto qof naxariis baddan.ilaahiisana caabuda. dadkana amaan siina muslim iyo gaalo.( LAKUM DIINAKUM WALIYA DIIN) if gaaal wanna be gaaal. waxaa inaad faraha ka qaadaa. adiga muslim ayaad tahay nabad kula nolooow.

maanta dadka islaamka magaciisa ku ciyaarey fiiri somaliya al shaab wiilal teenagers brainwash ku sameyeen JANAA GALEYSAA is qarxi :shock: subxaana allah is that islam maya walaahi is not. muslims today inay dagaalamaan maba aha becouse hadiis nabawi aayaa jira oranay(haddii aadan 100% ogeeyn dagaalka aad gasho inaad ciidan ahaan guul ka keeni kartid waad dagaalami kartaan lakiiin hadii ciidan ahaan hub ahaan lagaa baddan yahay ha galin dagaal)

maanta islaam dhinac waliba waa laga horeeyaa. waa in islaamka schoolada ku laabtaan xagga waxbarashada technology ay kaga hor maraan wadamada yurub japan iyo china .
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Re: New classification for extremists in the UK?

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FAH1223 wrote:this is why USA >>> UK
muslims in the UK are trillion times better than WEloveAMEERIIKAmoderate"MUSLIMS" :!: :!:

many muslims who're serious about the deen (including memebers of my own family) have moved to the UK because of the muslim ummah there (though many of them have sinces moved on and now live in a "muslim" country).

in fact, the islam practiced in the UK is much more in-line with true islam than the islam practiced in most of the so called "muslim" countries. :up:
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Re: New classification for extremists in the UK?

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Somali-Star wrote:
FAH1223 wrote:this is why USA >>> UK
muslims in the UK are trillion times better than WEloveAMEERIIKAmoderate"MUSLIMS" :!: :!:

many muslims who're serious about the deen (including memebers of my own family) have moved to the UK because of the muslim ummah there (though many of them have sinces moved on and now live in a "muslim" country).

in fact, the islam practiced in the UK is much more in-line with true islam than the islam practiced in most of the so called "muslim" countries. :up:
no such thing as "moderate muslim"

islam is a whole you have to take in

anyway USA >>> UK...
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Re: New classification for extremists in the UK?

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are youe sure fah?
In a special two-part film Rageh Omaar travelled across the US exploring the roots and influence of Islam in America.

Abdi says he would sacrifice his life for the country he calls home.

The taxi driver taking me to the airport in Minneapolis is not referring to his birthplace, Somalia, but to the US – the place where he has lived for the last 13 years.

Abdi is part of a 44,000-strong Somali community in the liberal mid-western state of Minnesota, most of who are Muslim.


My own adopted home, England, has an even larger Somali community, which has been settled for longer, but they do not tend to think of England as home.

But in Minnesota, Somalis – no less scarred or traumatised by their experiences - seem to have planted roots deeper and faster than any Somali community I have seen in the world.

They do not talk of returning home, they are home.

The Somali community's sense of belonging in Minnesota runs contrary to the image many people may have of an irreconcilable conflict between America and Islam.

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/ameri ... 21626.html
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Re: New classification for extremists in the UK?

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Somali-Star, yes bro I am sure. America is OUR home now. Whether you like it or not, majority of Somalis here aren't going back because our country still remains and will probably be a failed state for a while.

If its other countries in the Muslim world, that depends on your perspective and profession... family, ect

Muslims have been in the USA just as long as any in Britain, Muslims make more money than the avg american, Muslims are more educated, Muslims are family oriented than normal Americans, ect

Muslims in America are showing these gaalo the light while these people are in the dark.

Theres a lot of shid here, and that shid is exported to the third world under the guise of globalization or what have you, with western culture prevalent everywhere. Thats the sign of the times.

Anyway if someone violates your religious rights, sue them :up: make them suffer for the sake of the diin and the ummah for trying to take away whats sacred and just :up:

reminds me of the khutbah today :lol:

Just because the Muslim population here is more at home, more integrated in society, doesn't mean we are somehow criminals or that we are kaffirs or that we support bombings in the Muslim world. Its very much in the contrarty.
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Re: New classification for extremists in the UK?

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fah, i think we've to agree to this disagree on this one...
Just because the Muslim population here is more at home, more integrated in society, doesn't mean we are somehow criminals or that we are kaffirs or that we support bombings in the Muslim world.
subhanallah... i'm not implying anything of the sort.
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