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Re: Waxaa Wax Walba Ka Daran!
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 3:03 pm
by Buhodle-Gurl
Re: Waxaa Wax Walba Ka Daran!
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 3:15 pm
by kambuli
Looyaan,
Gabdhuhu way leeyihiin xuquuqdaas ee waa laga qarin jirey weligood. Aniguna mana ihi Reer Galbeed iska yeel yeel, waxan ahay reer miyi, balse aan jecleyn in haweenka la lugooyo
Fah,
Please refrain from accusing me of wrong doings on my religion..Where did I trash? Bal horta dib iiga joogso..
I can't believe of all the people you are supporting those men who are abusing the Aayaat of Allaah SWT...
Nimankan qudbu Sireedka ku wada qaba naagaha miyaa noqdey dad diin leh?
Look around you? All the muslim men around the world are confined to one women, because they know and are afraid about the Aaya"'Wa in khiftum Allaa Tacdiluu Fawaaxidata"
Muslims don't take the Ayaat lightly...
Mid tii horeba naf u waayey ayaa leh, mid labaad baan guursanayaa...
Shirib,
Waxaad Ilowdey inaad ku darto hadalka"Habarta"

Re: Waxaa Wax Walba Ka Daran!
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 3:20 pm
by FAH1223
kambuli wrote:
Fah,
Please refrain from accusing me of wrong doings on my religion..Where did I trash? Bal horta dib iiga joogso..
I can't believe of all the people you are supporting those men who are abusing the Aayaat of Allaah SWT...
Nimankan qudbu Sireedka ku wada qaba naagaha miyaa noqdey dad diin leh?
Look around you? All the muslim men around the world are confined to one women, because they know and are afraid about the Aaya"'Wa in khiftum Allaa Tacdiluu Fawaaxidata"
Muslims don't take the Ayaat lightly...
Mid tii horeba naf u waayey ayaa leh, mid labaad baan guursanayaa...
Kambuli, in the other topic about the woman killing her co-wife... you seemed to be supportive
I'm not accusing you of being a bad Muslim or anything like that, all I'm saying is you should not bash polygamy but RATHER THE PEOPLE who don't use it correctly. I'm right and you know that
btw, Polygamy is an exception... men can only handle one woman
Btw, why are you accusing me of supporting Polygamy? It is something Allah made permissible, so I don't hate it... I hate what people do to things in the Islam. I have no reason to oppose if people do it correctly or use it in circumstances that befit it.
Re: Waxaa Wax Walba Ka Daran!
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 3:28 pm
by siren
hanad_mn wrote:Kambuli,
Here is a 28yrs old man who is married to 2 Wives and do Cadaalad.
I devide My paycheck into 3 direct deposits.
40% - to one wife's bank
40% to the other wife's bank
20% goes to me to send to my hooyo and aabo
I stay In one house every day.
They both have my cell phone so, anytime one needs me she calls coz the day time is mine and not for any of them. they only own the night time.
So Where is the Injustice I am doing?
habo hal naag nin rag kuma filno. The ayah is starting with 2 then 3 then 4 Then Inqiftum means for those cannot afford. It is like if you miss Sowm, first you are suppose to first but If you can't then yo feed people. So Allah only made optional for the weak ones to Just have one oo uu weesada kudhawrto inta uu zinaysan lahaa. So basically having one wife is the last option.
Mathna , wathulaatha, warubaac for the real men
I don't know about you guys but for me is a kind of generic. My father had 3, My grandfather 4 and I have 2 so Maybe my son can go down to one

What's 40% of a Factory worker's pay cheque? Just

Re: Waxaa Wax Walba Ka Daran!
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 3:58 pm
by Looyaan_Junior
Kambuli,
Arimihu markii ay Allah iyo diin ku saabsanyihiin laguma talax tago, Of course I have my own opnion but we should refrain expressing our opinions when it's regarding the ruling and boundries of Allah.
Allah knows best, anigu topigan waa iga xidhanyahay,
Re: Waxaa Wax Walba Ka Daran!
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 4:04 pm
by Hyperactive
kambuli, i thought inad adiga igu maqned the first one.
i know you hate marrying more than one wife but some times it`s good for both parties.
many sisters want in la asturo in halal.
Re: Waxaa Wax Walba Ka Daran!
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 4:08 pm
by kambuli
Fah,
Look I think you are mixing the jokes and the serious talk...Who can say 'Men be warned otherwise it is a death" Only someone joking...I don't condone any killing with the exception of self defense...That is that..
But I strongly believe a women can be hurt so badly that she can get crazy therefore do things that are beyond her will..The common sense says...If your husband leaves you for another women just leave him..But some women get hurt so badly that they are not responsible for their actions...
If you are supporting men marrying one women after the other making an excuse of Allaah Ayat...Go ahead and marry 4 wives...

But don't twist my words and make me look like someone who is against Allaah SWT 's aayaat...
You all support only this Aaya and ignore the Aayaat that are with the first Aayaat..You guys can't just take the Aayaat out of the context...And why every man only knows this Aaya of all the 6666 Aayaat?? Cajiib..
Even those who don't know the quran knows this only Aaya...
Re: Waxaa Wax Walba Ka Daran!
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 4:11 pm
by kambuli
Looyaan,
Waan ku gartay walaal...Ilaahay baa qof walba xaalkiisa og...
Hyper,
Anigu nin niyadda ku haya inuu gabadha qalbiga ka dilo, siin maayo gabadh, waanigii kaala noqdey markii aan ku ogaadey..
Re: Waxaa Wax Walba Ka Daran!
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 4:12 pm
by Hyperactive

kambuli.
i wouldnt lie to her, marki horaba wan o sheegi laha.
Re: Waxaa Wax Walba Ka Daran!
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 4:18 pm
by FAH1223
kambuli wrote:Fah,
Look I think you are mixing the jokes and the serious talk...Who can say 'Men be warned otherwise it is a death" Only someone joking...I don't condone any killing with the exception of self defense...That is that..
But I strongly believe a women can be hurt so badly that she can get crazy therefore do things that are beyond her will..The common sense says...If your husband leaves you for another women just leave him..But some women get hurt so badly that they are not responsible for their actions...
If you are supporting men marrying one women after the other making an excuse of Allaah Ayat...Go ahead and marry 4 wives...

But don't twist my words and make me look like someone who is against Allaah SWT 's aayaat...
You all support only this Aaya and ignore the Aayaat that are with the first Aayaat..You guys can't just take the Aayaat out of the context...And why every man only knows this Aaya of all the 6666 Aayaat?? Cajiib..
Even those who don't know the quran knows this only Aaya...
why are you accusing me of ignoring all the other verses? and why do you think i would be a polygamist?
all im saying is, we should not hate something allah made halal
polygamy is a responsibility its not just a thing you are supposed to joke with, its also something which is abused and can destroy people, but thats on the people
allah says in other ayat that a man cant deal justly with them, but he made it halal because sometimes it can help a community
thats all im saying
Re: Waxaa Wax Walba Ka Daran!
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 4:42 pm
by American-Suufi
polygamy was intended for marrting widows and raising orphans. polygamy is illegal here and 99.9% cant afford to raise 2 families. they marry and live in section 8 and deny one wife. they claim her as a girlfriend. it is an abuse to the institution of polygamy. the kids grew up like their afro american neighbors. allah swt loves quality families and not dysfunctional quantity.
Re: Waxaa Wax Walba Ka Daran!
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 4:46 pm
by Navy9
Kambuli,
I think many things Somalis do is because of the culture, I dont think many people in the past or even in the present are fully aware of the dos and donts of the Quran.
Anyway, the other day I was watching this egyptian movie, it was about 4 female coworkers who also were friends. one was a doctor, one was a lawyer, one was an engineer and the fourth was a HR personnel. Anyhow, the lawyer one proposed an idea to her friends. She said that Allah has permitted men to marry four women, we are four and we know each other very well, why dont we all marry one man and instead of the man taking the upper hand why dont we be the upper hand. They all agreed and married one man whom all four liked.
As long as all involved parties agree, i think that is durable, not only they solved their problem of getting married, they also solved many financial problems as they all lived in a big place and shared all expenses!
But that does not mean what works for one, will necessarily work for another person. Some women are bit more jealous than the others and some are deadly jealous.
Re: Waxaa Wax Walba Ka Daran!
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 4:51 pm
by kambuli
American Suufi, quote " polygamy was intended for marrting widows and raising orphans. polygamy is illegal here and 99.9% cant afford to raise 2 families. they marry and live in section 8 and deny one wife. they claim her as a girlfriend. it is an abuse to the institution of polygamy. the kids grew up like their afro american neighbors. allah swt loves quality families and not dysfunctional quantity.American-Suufi
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Thanks
Navy9,
With all honesty would you share your husband with another wife? Ilaahay baan kugu dhaashee? Would you marry a man you know will definately marry another women..Just because it is allowed????
Re: Waxaa Wax Walba Ka Daran!
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 4:54 pm
by Navy9
Kambuli, I might divorce my husband if he looked at another woman and you are talking about marrying. But not all women are like me, my older brother is married to 4 women, i can't say my sisters in law have no blood but each person functions completely different than others.
Re: Waxaa Wax Walba Ka Daran!
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 5:19 pm
by Skippa
Kambuli,
Sis, what I understand is that some people (read women) knowingly and willingly marry a polygynyst. Granted, it may not be a thing for you or I however, we shouldn't knock it for the simple reason that it's misused. As some said before, Allah made it halal, albeit with certain caveats but the fact remains that it is permissible by divine decree.
It is true that a lot of men (if not most) abuse the institution, they encumber themselves with a burden that they can not assume...they may be driven by selfishness, greed, lust etc...and they're dishonest with the women that are affected by their whims, more importantly, they're dishonest with their own selves. They do not think about the repercussions of their actions, the impact on the issues that may be born, some people even go so far as to make halaal that which Allah made haram...This is a sign of the end of times, little faith, little understanding, little knowledge...God Watches us all and a day will come when we will all be made to account. Forgive me if I'm mistaken but from reading your comments, it sounds as if you're implying that no woman would willingly accept to share her husband with another...