The dark side of Sayyid Abdullah Hassan

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Re: The dark side of Sayyid Abdullah Hassan

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Voltage,

The Sayyid was the occasional Italian ally and was able to build his forts in the Nugaal because the Italians wanted him as a buffer between them and the British and the Ciisman Mahamuud Boqor; which was his end, because it made his forces locateable. He fled the British air and ground forces, south, hoping to raise a new army in the Italian territory, but was recognized by the Qadiriya as the murderer of Aweys al Baraawe, was wounded by them under the left arm in battle, and was pursued by them to Imo (Imeey) in Ethiopia, where he died of influenza and his wound in late November or December, 1920.

His heronimo ended ignominiously, at the hands of his own countrymen and co-religionists, who were his fiercest antagonists. The Isaak weren't expecially fond of him either.

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Re: The dark side of Sayyid Abdullah Hassan

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Even the prophet used anti-Meccan pagan Arabian tribes like Ghatafan and Beni Juhaynah in his march for Mecca in order to put fear into the hearts of the Meccans and force them to surrender bloodlessly. In Islam that is permissible for us. The British was a bigger threat than the Italians in that early time because the British were trying to change Somali way of life while the Italians started the programs after the Sayid's defeat.

Your history is wrong. After the bombardment, the Sayid and Italy concluded a treaty for him to be based in Italian Somaliland but soon after the Sayid left. He successfully reestablished his forces in the Ogaden and the British tried to cox him out for final peace before half of his forces and himself succumbed to the flu epidemic that started in Spain at that time.

The Sayid's Legacy is a reminder of his glorious campaign.

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Re: The dark side of Sayyid Abdullah Hassan

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The Sayyid was bigoted racist, and a camel thief, and an extremist cause he fought everyone and everything that he thought remotely worked with the colonizers, and killed a lot of innocents

But he is still a hero because he was fighting for his people against colonialists
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Re: The dark side of Sayyid Abdullah Hassan

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Shirib wrote:But he is still a hero because he was fighting for his people against colonialists
And that is all that counts.

Also, I wonder why the Sayid is a "bigoted racits" just because he told the Raxanweyn to speak "af muslim ama af gaal" when he gave more insults to his own sub-clans and other Darod clans than anyone else.
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Re: The dark side of Sayyid Abdullah Hassan

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Voltage,

Here's the most detailed history of the period I have so far found:

http://www.dhahar.com/history/TheFailure.html

The forts were built after 1914 and effectively ended the Sayid's career. There were only a handful of men with him when he died at Imo.
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Re: The dark side of Sayyid Abdullah Hassan

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Voltage wrote:
Shirib wrote:But he is still a hero because he was fighting for his people against colonialists
And that is all that counts.

Also, I wonder why the Sayid is a "bigoted racits" just because he told the Raxanweyn to speak "af muslim ama af gaal" when he gave more insults to his own sub-clans and other Darod clans than anyone else.
Half the guys gabays were just insulting other clans and yes u can't go ask people for help and in the process insult them wtf :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: The dark side of Sayyid Abdullah Hassan

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abakar20 wrote:
Voltage wrote:
The fact is, all this Buunbuuni and Isweyneys of the Sayyid came after 1978, to bring his tribe closer to Barre's clan, away from Harti's, to prevent uprise against his Faqash regime.
........u really are one ignorant tribalist bastard, who is blinded by hatred. The above quote is testement to the depth of your knowledge about the history of somalia and your inability to conceal your your hatred for a certain clan. I dont even why people take a scum like u seriously because according to the 'facts' (your facts) S.Barre (aun) started glorifying the dervishes and the siyaad in order to bring siyaad's to tribe closer to his own and away from the hartis. I only have one to thing to say to u and that is go educate yourself. I have notice in your posts insulting daarood is a reoccuring theme. Do yourself a favour and stop the inferiority complex you suffer from. There is no excuse to deconstruct the heritage and the history of others just because you dont have one of your own to be proud of!
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Re: The dark side of Sayyid Abdullah Hassan

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the sayid candulle was an immoral,modern day terrorist.
His name belongs to dark pages of the history.the elitist afweyne regime tried to make him hero but all backfired.
in his Immoral poems he clearly disrespects the somali women.
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Re: The dark side of Sayyid Abdullah Hassan

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peace- wrote:
abakar20 wrote:
Voltage wrote:
The fact is, all this Buunbuuni and Isweyneys of the Sayyid came after 1978, to bring his tribe closer to Barre's clan, away from Harti's, to prevent uprise against his Faqash regime.
........u really are one ignorant tribalist bastard, who is blinded by hatred. The above quote is testement to the depth of your knowledge about the history of somalia and your inability to conceal your your hatred for a certain clan. I dont even why people take a scum like u seriously because according to the 'facts' (your facts) S.Barre (aun) started glorifying the dervishes and the siyaad in order to bring siyaad's to tribe closer to his own and away from the hartis. I only have one to thing to say to u and that is go educate yourself. I have notice in your posts insulting daarood is a reoccuring theme. Do yourself a favour and stop the inferiority complex you suffer from. There is no excuse to deconstruct the heritage and the history of others just because you dont have one of your own to be proud of!
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Re: The dark side of Sayyid Abdullah Hassan

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Voltage wrote:
Shirib wrote:But he is still a hero because he was fighting for his people against colonialists
And that is all that counts.

Also, I wonder why the Sayid is a "bigoted racits" just because he told the Raxanweyn to speak "af muslim ama af gaal" when he gave more insults to his own sub-clans and other Darod clans than anyone else.
What kind of ignorance is that? He didn't understand the Rahanweyn dialect, so all of a sudden waa Gaalo Madoow? That is not the way of a fighter, making enemies with the people.
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Re: The dark side of Sayyid Abdullah Hassan

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Voltage, great intellectual capicity, you are truly the defender of somali honour on somalinet,they should fear you whenever they come up with biased bull,shit and lies against our people :clap: :clap:

we salute you :up:
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Re: The dark side of Sayyid Abdullah Hassan

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peace- wrote:Do yourself a favour and stop the inferiority complex you suffer from. There is no excuse to deconstruct the heritage and the history of others just because you dont have one of your own to be proud of!
At every chance he gets he wants me to comment on Ahmed Gurey and his clan in which he wants to participate as a contestor but I continue to ignore him. Little does he know how much of a joke he is to me. It is like Haiti trying to compete with the U.S for the defeat of Hitler. :lol: :lol:

Anyways, ha u bixin, I have long noticed the most hateful are the ones who subconsciously believe their clans are excluded from past history.
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Re: The dark side of Sayyid Abdullah Hassan

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Garuun wrote:Voltage, great intellectual capicity, you are truly the defender of somali honour on somalinet,they should fear you whenever they come up with biased bull,shit and lies against our people :clap: :clap:

we salute you :up:

Waad mahadsantahay. :up: :som:
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Re: The dark side of Sayyid Abdullah Hassan

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Contrast the Sayyid with this genuine religious/political figure:

http://www.geocities.com/traditionalisl ... araawe.htm
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Re: The dark side of Sayyid Abdullah Hassan

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Addoow wrote:the sayid candulle was an immoral,modern day terrorist.
His name belongs to dark pages of the history.the elitist afweyne regime tried to make him hero but all backfired.
in his Immoral poems he clearly disrespects the somali women.
bloody hell no lie is shameful enough for these people. Now in which poem did he disrespect women.
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