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Xamari_76 wrote:Im not questioning our religion..just asking some questions..Why is it that a raped women needs like 3 witnesses for her accusation to be taken seriously..these are legitimate questions people..please take no offense.

It is better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt. :up: :up:
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Aint my cup of tea..
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Navy9 wrote:
HELWAA wrote:
Navy9 wrote:oh the possibilities if women we are allowed to do polygamy :lol:

Ma aragtey....i think we would be worse then the men.

Women are too emotional and we can't help but be ourselves, c'est la vie? I guess.
I would personally use them as my personal slaves.Jadwal baan oo sameen lahaa mid kasta shaqo oo gaar ah...and fulfil every fantasy i have. :mrgreen: :lol: :lol:
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..because rape is a severe misdemeanour and some women truth be told are sudden to 'yell' rape when they are the wrong doers

..when you accuse someone on an offence as immense as this, you have to have witnesses as required
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Helwa,

Long time ago I was reading about Arab traditions in pre-islamic era. I exactly remember one thing very clearly, it said that women in that era if they didnt like their men, they used to change the direction of the tent's entrance. If the tent was facing the east when the man leaves in the morning, if he comes back at night and see the entrance was facing the west, he would take his sorry ass somewhere else, as he is now officially being divorced.

I thought that was hilarious and gave women a huge power knowing what many had alot of stereotypes when it comes to the status Arab women.


Now, imagine if I did that to ahmedow, I am already laughing :mrgreen:
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I dont know why women freak out about this. Get a friggin contract before you tie the knot and if he goes on to marry another one, seek divorce. There is Polygamy and there is divorce too. Life is about choices, if he made a choice to practice polygamy, know your rights and implement them to your advantage.

Ps Even consider his pee pee as a Maher if that will keep him away. :lol:
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xamari76

men have more rights in islam because God intended for men to spread the religion, build and rule the world, while God intended for women to give birth, breast feed, and raise the children. al rigaalu qawaamuuna calal nisaa'.
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Navy9 wrote:Helwa,

Long time ago I was reading about Arab traditions in pre-islamic era. I exactly remember one thing very clearly, it said that women in that era if they didnt like their men, they used to change the direction of the tent's entrance. If the tent was facing the east when the man leaves in the morning, if he comes back at night and see the entrance was facing the west, he would take his sorry ass somewhere else, as he is now officially being divorced.

I thought that was hilarious and gave women a huge power knowing what many had alot of stereotypes when it comes to the status Arab women.


Now, imagine if I did that to ahmedow, I am already laughing :mrgreen:

Loooool i think that is diffrence between us and the men...we would never keep someone just for the sake of the marriage....the minut his purpose is done waa macsallama.Thats why polygamy dont work no one have 2 hearts and no one can treat 2 women the same way with same love and affection...ninku mid uun buu oo badan ta oo jecel yahy.Aakhirana waxa la yedhi wuxu soo baxa ninku isaga oo dhinac tuur ku leh, yacni waa naagta oo badna..subxanallah.If you cant be fair never get a second wife nimano..
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Ismahan123 wrote:I dont know why women freak out about this. Get a friggin contract before you tie the knot and if he goes on to marry another one, seek divorce. There is Polygamy and there is divorce too. Life is about choices, if he made a choice to practice polygamy, know your rights and implement them to your advantage.

Ps Even consider his pee pee as a Maher if that will keep him away. :lol:

:lol: :lol:


That is scary wallahi.......if he leaves she keeps it by cutting it off........Ouch.........
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Xamari_76 wrote:Im not questioning our religion..just asking some questions..Why is it that a raped women needs like 3 witnesses for her accusation to be taken seriously..these are legitimate questions people..please take no offense.
Its actually 4 witnesses and this is only required if the accused denies the rape and there's no evidence to hold him liable. If he confesses, or even if the woman's screams for help are heard, there's physical evidence which proves he did it e.g. DNA, then he will be charged with the rape and his hadd punishment is like that of zinah. If he was married, he will be stoned and if he never married, he will face 100 lashes. In addition he will pay for her dowry as is stipulated by a khaadi/judge.

If a man accuses a chaste woman of zinah and does not provide 4 witnesses, he will be charged with the crime of zinah and be punished for it. Rulings like this are to discourage false accusations and foul play. Allah does not favor a man over a woman, he created all beings, only those who are pious are closer to him.
The scholars are unanimously agreed that the rapist is to be subjected to the hadd punishment if there is clear evidence against him that he deserves the hadd punishment, or if he admits to that. Otherwise, he is to be punished (i.e., if there is no proof that the hadd punishment for zina may be carried out against him because he does not confess, and there are not four witnesses, then the judge may punish him and stipulate a punishment that will deter him and others like him). There is no punishment for the woman if it is true that he forced her and overpowered her, which may be proven by her screaming and shouting for help. End quote.
http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/72338/rape
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S-D-M wrote:
Ismahan123 wrote:I dont know why women freak out about this. Get a friggin contract before you tie the knot and if he goes on to marry another one, seek divorce. There is Polygamy and there is divorce too. Life is about choices, if he made a choice to practice polygamy, know your rights and implement them to your advantage.

Ps Even consider his pee pee as a Maher if that will keep him away. :lol:

:lol: :lol:


That is scary wallahi.......if he leaves she keeps it by cutting it off........Ouch.........
:clap: :mrgreen:
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sheekh kolombo

i thought the punishment for rape was death?
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:lol: :lol: @sheekh kolombo. Aniga iyo sheeknimo kala fog sxb.

As for your question, here's the answer:
The punishment for rape in Islam is same as the punishment for zina, which is stoning if the perpetrator is married, and one hundred lashes and banishment for one year if he is not married.

Some scholars also say that he is required to pay a mahr to the woman.
http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/72338/rape
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Kolombo wrote:
Xamari_76 wrote:Im not questioning our religion..just asking some questions..Why is it that a raped women needs like 3 witnesses for her accusation to be taken seriously..these are legitimate questions people..please take no offense.
Its actually 4 witnesses and this is only required if the accused denies the rape and there's no evidence to hold him liable. If he confesses, or even if the woman's screams for help are heard, there's physical evidence which proves he did it e.g. DNA, then he will be charged with the rape and his hadd punishment is like that of zinah. If he was married, he will be stoned and if he never married, he will face 100 lashes. In addition he will pay for her dowry as is stipulated by a khaadi/judge.

If a man accuses a chaste woman of zinah and does not provide 4 witnesses, he will be charged with the crime of zinah and be punished for it. Rulings like this are to discourage false accusations and foul play. Allah does not favor a man over a woman, he created all beings, only those who are pious are closer to him.
The scholars are unanimously agreed that the rapist is to be subjected to the hadd punishment if there is clear evidence against him that he deserves the hadd punishment, or if he admits to that. Otherwise, he is to be punished (i.e., if there is no proof that the hadd punishment for zina may be carried out against him because he does not confess, and there are not four witnesses, then the judge may punish him and stipulate a punishment that will deter him and others like him). There is no punishment for the woman if it is true that he forced her and overpowered her, which may be proven by her screaming and shouting for help. End quote.
http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/72338/rape
Well i guess shariah law is misused..i'll show you examples of obvious rape cases where it was in favor of the man. Mostly in Pakistan and Afghanistan.
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Shariah law is perfect because its the law Allah ordained for Muslims, who is wiser than Ilaaheey? Its implementation though is another matter and it has been abused through the centuries by different groups for their own political/social gains. Its their loss because they have turned something beautiful in to something perverted. There's no gender superiority in Islam. There's no evidence anywhere that says men are superior to women or vice versa. All that is mentioned are the rights & responsibilities of men & women. In some regards women have more rights e.g. mothers have 3x more rights over their children than fathers. In other cases men have more rights e.g. a man has the right to marry more than 1 wife (provided he meets all the conditions for it), some even call it a permission to marry more than 1 wife rather than a right.

A woman has the right to be fed, sheltered and clothed by her male relatives and once she marries, that right transfers over to her husband who is to provide for all of the things her father/brothers provided her with. That includes paying for all of her expenses including personal items and even paying for a maid if she was raised that way. Whatever she earns is hers to keep and dispose off as she pleases. Rain or shine a man has to get up and provide for his family whereas a woman never has to go through such a thing. If anything, Islam has honored women and elevated them at a time when they were being burried alive and traded as livestock. Allah is the all just, the wise.
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