Women Enjoy too much in ISLAM.

[Rightwing]

In the west you can only marry one woman but keeping girlfriends on the sides is totally legal.
70% of married western men have had cheated on their wives.
Many women in Europe know their husbands have girlfriends and they play they don't know.
They also cheat to revenge.....and hold hands in public to play happy family.

On average a western woman has slept with 9 boyfriends and aborted 3 babies before marrige at the age of 29.
The average respectable looking Miss Jones is cheaper than a prostitute in the muslim world because she provides free sexual services(girlfriend). At least the prostitute is paid. how can the girlfriend who cheaper than the prostitute be more respectable??????????????

Any Halimos not satisfied with ISLAM can try the devil's camp.

Waxaas aad qortay waxbaa ka jira but do it sxb on Objectives / Terms of Reference way, weliba markaad ka hadlaysid statistics.
Le-justicier

[Lacageylacag]

I agree many sisters have not had the opportunity to learn the diin through no fault of their own. They are the only ones with an excuse.
But vast majority of muslim women have had the opportunity and wasted it.
A good example is this forum. Look how ignorant they are.
They come here with heads/heart filled with kufr propaganda.
What I want to see is a somali women in the west challenging their men with verses and quotations from the Quran and sunnah rather than relying on 999.
Ignorance is not going to be an excuse in qiyamah.

[SummerRain]

@lacag

[Rightwing]

Muslim Women are second citizen in Islam

they can be beaten - No they cant. maybe tapped slightly to get your attention...not beated.

lol
thats what it says tho.
Say my husband is trying to talk to me right...and Im angry and mad and frustrated
Im not listening to what hes' saying (which is something I would do) if he taps me...
ill probably
1) laugh (wtf are u tapping)
2) might make me stop freaking out on him

Naliaa, If Islam clearly defines women's rights and responsibilities why would you like to be slave?

[ms.naliaa]

Naliaa, If Islam clearly defines women's rights and responsibilities why would you like to be slave?

looool...you obviously h avent been here long enough to know that I dont let a man boss me around.

Im not a slave...Im only a slave to Allah (swt).
When I do get married....I wont be a slave to my husband but Im gonna cater to him.

[Rightwing]

Naliaa, If Islam clearly defines women's rights and responsibilities why would you like to be slave?

looool...you obviously h avent been here long enough to know that I dont let a man boss me around.

Im not a slave...Im only a slave to Allah (swt).
When I do get married....I wont be a slave to my husband but Im gonna cater to him.

I got your point sis. However, I came here 1998, Screw, madmac, Basra, Xplaya, Advo and sexy-kitten came after me 2000 and 2001

[ms.naliaa]

lol
well you obviously havent been around to know Naliaa The Great
wlc back son!

[surrender]

I agree many sisters have not had the opportunity to learn the diin through no fault of their own. They are the only ones with an excuse.
But vast majority of muslim women have had the opportunity and wasted it.
A good example is this forum. Look how ignorant they are.
They come here with heads/heart filled with kufr propaganda.
What I want to see is a somali women in the west challenging their men with verses and quotations from the Quran and sunnah rather than relying on 999.
Ignorance is not going to be an excuse in qiyamah.

ignorance is not excuse for both male and female, but doubt not if a man is abusive to a women, she has a right to ask for help. in this case and western country, she has a right to dail 999. many men abuse their power and rule allah has giving them, and take women a peice of meat, that you can bin it when its not edible. women have rights, just as much as men, its shame that our men lack the knowledge to recognise women as part of the society, as part of the community and as their friends and team who they need to work together to achieve comeplete family. of course there are women who are wrong same a men,but i have witness and translated somali women for 999. one was my neightbor, her husband who decided to come 3am, knocking the door lunatic, she wouldnt let him in, so he start to kick the door down. the women finally decided to open the door coz she was afraid the kids might wake up. the minute he got in, he started to beat the shit out of her. she run to our hosue and asked us if we could call the police for her!! i mean c'mon ninkaasoo kale yaa lanoolaakara!!? many somali men need to change big time walahi, they breakin all rules of allah, and expect women to be this little perfect angles, who dont call the police, who dont moan, dont complain, basically pefrcet housewives. how could these poor women be perfect housewives, if they live with bahal like him? nah brother stop calling women ignorant, i doubt women and ignorance isnt the biggest issues we have today.

[Rightwing]

lol
well you obviously havent been around to know Naliaa The Great
wlc back son!

You welcome Naliaa the great

[baafu]

Question:
Does Islam permit a man to hit his wife?



Summary Answer:
Yes, but only if she doesn't do as he asks. The beating must cease if the woman complies with her husband's demands. Beating is also intended to be the last resort, behind verbal abuse and abandonment.

Muhammad, himself, is recorded as physically striking his favorite wife (from her own testimony). It is not known how he treated his less-favored wives.



The Qur'an:
Sura (4:34) - "Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great."

[ms.naliaa]

lol
well you obviously havent been around to know Naliaa The Great
wlc back son!

You welcome Naliaa the great

I wasnt thanking you

[Hoowle]

The worst thing in the world is the burden of earning a living. They are not required to earn a living.They have a right to be maintained by their male relatives/husband. If she works and spends on her relatives/kids...it is charity work for her.

It looks as though you know nothing about how an economy of a country works. economies employ all factors of production: labor, capital and technology. While countries employ these factors differently (explaining the discrepancy in development around the world), countries must employ ALL these factors in order to realize their potential. The problem with Islamic Economics (as proposed by you) is that it culls HALF of the labor force since women roughly make-up half of the labor force. Now, there maybe a way to circumvent this massive loss of labor and that is to be more technologically intensive but this can't be realistic solution for two reasons. One, no amount of technological substitution will ever make up for the 50% labor loss. Second, Muslims don't possess such technology.

Unless you wanna to be forever condemned into abject poverty, you can't layoff half of your labor force.

[Lacageylacag]

Warya Hiloowle,
Women started getting factored into the economies of the west because of the great shortage of men in the world wars.
Before then, women rarely worked.
Even now, the nuclear age, fear of war and its consequent shortage of men forces them to keep women at work.
So many women in jobs keeps many men out of work and you can see. Gaalo PR portrays things far from the the truth.

In Siad Barre times, if you are working and your wife/mother complains you are not maintaining them, half your salary would be deducted and paid to them.

Whats wrong with surrender this days?
She is turning into right little female extremist. gabadha nin ha loo doono. She is angry with us, somali men.

[Hoowle]

Warya Hiloowle,
Women started getting factored into the economies of the west because of the great shortage of men in the world wars.

What's your fixation with the West? Are you by any chance a Westophobe? I said nothing about the West. I mentioned how economies work and gave reasons as to why you need to employ all your labor force (along with technology and capital). Do you have anything substantive to say regarding that?

Before then, women rarely worked.

Where did you get that? Al Azhar University? Or University of Abdul Wahab. Women in the West worked in the SAME way that women in subsistence based economies of today work. It is the level of economic development that determines the role women play in the economy. In just about every African and developing country (india, china for instance) women till the farms. Western women also used to till the farms before Industrial age when some moved to cities to work in factories. So they were always fully integrated in the economies of the West. There were not treated equally with men in terms of remuneration and occupation but they were not told to stay home because of religious injections.

Islamic apologists always like to obfuscate the debate with red herrings and equivocations. In Islam women are banned from working for religious reasons. In the rest of the world, including virtually of all of sub-saharan Africa, the role women play in the economy is determined by the level of economic development.

By the way, in the good old days of Caliphates muslims overcame labor shortages with slavery. Lacageylacag, are prepared to reconstitute slavery? You know that in Islam slavery is permitted, right?


bilaa towfiiq

[Lacageylacag]

Hiloowle,
Nacas!