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Re: If only Siyad Barre did this
Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 11:06 pm
by Elan Morin Tedronai
Somalia was like a zoo run by a powerful gatekeeper. The gate keeper had servants working under him. One day some servants got fed with the gatekeeper and decided to oppose him. The gatekeeper used his chains to beat off the servants disloyal to him. The gatekeeper greatest fear was not the servants opposing him but the wild animals locked in the cages. The servants in their final throw of dice decided to sabotage the cages and broke open the locks. Seconds later wild animals have been set loose killing everything. The servants were finally over joyed. The wild animals have come to their rescue. Now they too can become gate keepers. Hooray
The gatekeeper was gone at last. Until they realised the truth. The truth which only the gatekeeper understood. These wild animals were truly wild. And they instantly turned on everyone including those hapless servants. In the end the wild animals have assumed total control over the zoo.
The story of somalia summed up in 100 words or less.
Re: If only Siyad Barre did this
Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 11:09 pm
by Xaaji_Xundjuf
Maybe only maybe voltage the generation group that grew up from 1991 till now , will have some sort rebirth evolution, because they have seen dagaal they might just turn the other way. And never look back. Gaalku did a good observation and what he observed became reality in 1991 marku ciidanki qarranki reero oo kala ja jabay. Some how he told us what was going to happen. I am still shocked. Gaalkaasi na siidaasu ino dawanaya , Somalidu na waxay ka hadlayaan anigu reer hebbel baan ahay kayga kaga ka xoog weyn wadamada qaar na telefoonay soo saran somalidu na meyd bay soo saaraan

Re: If only Siyad Barre did this
Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 11:10 pm
by SummerRain
Elan Morin Tedronai wrote:Somalia was like a zoo run by a powerful gatekeeper. The gate keeper had servants working under him. One day some servants got fed with the gatekeeper and decided to oppose him. The gatekeeper used his chains to beat off the servants disloyal to him. The gatekeeper greatest fear was not the servants opposing him but the wild animals locked in the cages. The servants in their final throw of dice decided to sabotage the cages and broke open the locks. Seconds later wild animals have been set loose killing everything. The servants were finally over joyed. The wild animals have come to their rescue. Now they too can become gate keepers. Hooray
The gatekeeper was gone at last. Until they realised the truth. The truth which only the gatekeeper understood. These wild animals were truly wild. And they instantly turned on everyone including those hapless servants. In the end the wild animals have assumed total control over the zoo.
The story of somalia summed up in 100 words or less.
Depends on which angle you look at it from. Lets not simplify things shall we.
Re: If only Siyad Barre did this
Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 11:11 pm
by FAH1223
Xaaji_Xundjuf wrote:Maybe only maybe voltage the generation group that grew up from 1991 till now , will have some sort rebirth evolution, because they have seen dagaal they might just turn the other way. And never look back. Gaalku did a good observation and what he observed became reality in 1991 marku ciidanki qarranki reero oo kala ja jabay. Some how he told us what was going to happen. I am still shocked. Gaalkaasi na siidaasu ino dawanaya , Somalidu na waxay ka hadlayaan anigu reer hebbel baan ahay kayga kaga ka xoog weyn wadamada qaar na telefoonay soo saran somalidu na meyd bay soo saaraan

you shouldn't be shocked, the 70s just had policies that distracted the Somalis away from the qabil by making it a taboo and also the Ogaden War drums trying to mobilize the populace to make a Somaliweyn
but after using that, the CIA report became reality slowly in the 80s and culminated in the destruction of the state in 91
its something of a miracle that there was a somali state for that long
Re: If only Siyad Barre did this
Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 11:12 pm
by Voltage
Elan Morin Tedronai wrote:Somalia was like a zoo run by a powerful gatekeeper. The gate keeper had servants working under him. One day some servants got fed with the gatekeeper and decided to oppose him. The gatekeeper used his chains to beat off the servants disloyal to him. The gatekeeper greatest fear was not the servants opposing him but the wild animals locked in the cages. The servants in their final throw of dice decided to sabotage the cages and broke open the locks. Seconds later wild animals have been set loose killing everything. The servants were finally over joyed. The wild animals have come to their rescue. Now they too can become gate keepers. Hooray
The gatekeeper was gone at last. Until they realised the truth. The truth which only the gatekeeper understood. These wild animals were truly wild. And they instantly turned on everyone including those hapless servants. In the end the wild animals have assumed total control over the zoo.
The story of somalia summed up in 100 words or less.
By God this guy is great. Hopefully CAPTAIN/MJPRIDE can see why his whole topic is pointless.
Servant supporters like Caydiid-supporting Ismahan will of course oppose you. The lady who supports the man that single-handedly did more damage to Somalia than Saytan himself.
Re: If only Siyad Barre did this
Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 11:13 pm
by Voltage
Xaaji_Xundjuf wrote:Maybe only maybe voltage the generation group that grew up from 1991 till now , will have some sort rebirth evolution, because they have seen dagaal they might just turn the other way. And never look back. Gaalku did a good observation and what he observed became reality in 1991 marku ciidanki qarranki reero oo kala ja jabay. Some how he told us what was going to happen.
I am still shocked. Gaalkaasi na siidaasu ino dawanaya , Somalidu na waxay ka hadlayaan anigu reer hebbel baan ahay kayga kaga ka xoog weyn wadamada qaar na telefoonay soo saran somalidu na meyd bay soo saaraan

Indeed sxb, indeed.

Re: If only Siyad Barre did this
Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 11:15 pm
by SummerRain
Voltage wrote:Elan Morin Tedronai wrote:Somalia was like a zoo run by a powerful gatekeeper. The gate keeper had servants working under him. One day some servants got fed with the gatekeeper and decided to oppose him. The gatekeeper used his chains to beat off the servants disloyal to him. The gatekeeper greatest fear was not the servants opposing him but the wild animals locked in the cages. The servants in their final throw of dice decided to sabotage the cages and broke open the locks. Seconds later wild animals have been set loose killing everything. The servants were finally over joyed. The wild animals have come to their rescue. Now they too can become gate keepers. Hooray
The gatekeeper was gone at last. Until they realised the truth. The truth which only the gatekeeper understood. These wild animals were truly wild. And they instantly turned on everyone including those hapless servants. In the end the wild animals have assumed total control over the zoo.
The story of somalia summed up in 100 words or less.
By God this guy is great. Hopefully CAPTAIN/MJPRIDE can see why his whole topic is pointless.
Servant supporters like Caydiid-supporting Ismahan will of course oppose you. The lady who supports the man that single-handedly did more damage to Somalia than Saytan himself.
So friggin predictable.

Re: If only Siyad Barre did this
Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 11:35 pm
by Elan Morin Tedronai
Ismahan123 wrote:Elan Morin Tedronai wrote:Somalia was like a zoo run by a powerful gatekeeper. The gate keeper had servants working under him. One day some servants got fed with the gatekeeper and decided to oppose him. The gatekeeper used his chains to beat off the servants disloyal to him. The gatekeeper greatest fear was not the servants opposing him but the wild animals locked in the cages. The servants in their final throw of dice decided to sabotage the cages and broke open the locks. Seconds later wild animals have been set loose killing everything. The servants were finally over joyed. The wild animals have come to their rescue. Now they too can become gate keepers. Hooray
The gatekeeper was gone at last. Until they realised the truth. The truth which only the gatekeeper understood. These wild animals were truly wild. And they instantly turned on everyone including those hapless servants. In the end the wild animals have assumed total control over the zoo.
The story of somalia summed up in 100 words or less.
Depends on which angle you look at it from. Lets not simplify things shall we.
ismahan my dear,
it's that simple. Siad barre greatest mistake was not executing his disloyal servants or in this case aideed and abdullahi yusuf when he had them in prison. He should have been like chairman mao.
Re: If only Siyad Barre did this
Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 11:44 pm
by Addoow
AUN,Maxamed siyaad barre.
Re: If only Siyad Barre did this
Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 12:00 am
by Cusmano
Siyad was in tough boat. Comprising on one hand building hawiye and isaaq cities like berbera, hargeisa, mogadishu, etc. And on the other hand neglecting darod lands like gedo, bari, nugal, sool, sanag, etc. So there needed to be trade off. Hawiye and Isaaq got their cities built, whilst darod got the leadership of government. Sounds fair and all but noooooo hawiye and isaaq weren't happy with that outcome. They wanted their cities built and also running the country.
Life just doesn't work like that unfortunately, it is give and take. If isaaq person was president and started investing and building darod cities in 69, hawiye and isaaq would still go mad and jump around like lunatics.
So if the siyad is really assessed being fair to all sides, you can clearly see that darod sacrificed investment in their regions whilst hawiye and isaaq got their regions built. If only people are fair darod deserves something they didn't get their lands built, hence siyad gave them top posts in his government.
If i was him and in his same position i would definitely done what he did, and if hawiye and isaaq were in his position im sure they would also. But When they talk about siyad they just talk about the brutal guy he was, he was brutal because he was telling these people to SHARE which they didn't accept. They wanted the whole cake to themselves. They wanted their regions built and also top positions in government... Warkaas socon meeyso, qof kale waxaas lala tag. Thats why siyad started being brutal to them because they wouldn't be human beings and share the country.
May he rest in peace
Re: If only Siyad Barre did this
Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 1:29 am
by lali99
^^^why do i have the impression that u reapeating urself over and over on a point that it is laughable extremely..let me give u a suggestion...learn ur history for ur own benefit...i guess it is true when they say "is only a fool that does not realise that HE IS A FOOL"...i pity u...
Re: If only Siyad Barre did this
Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 1:55 am
by snoop12
Somalia now is completely opposite to Somalia with MSB(aun)
its up to you which one you like

Re: If only Siyad Barre did this
Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 6:08 am
by lali99
sxb snoop i never like the old somalia and certainly im not liking the new somalia...somalia is somalia to us, a foreign country
Re: If only Siyad Barre did this
Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 3:50 pm
by Somaliman50

Voltage, ninyahow can't you accept people having different views from you, or did you inherit Siyad Barre's trait of silencing the opponent, but in your case, using personal insults? If you adress people in a calm manner, maybe people would take you more seriously.
Anyway, tribalism has always been a sensitive issue in Somalia. And clearly, going about it the wrong way has devastating effects. Let dictatorship and 1991 be a lesson for us.

Re: If only Siyad Barre did this
Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 4:11 pm
by Murax
AUN MSB. HE KNEW HOW TO DEAL WITH ZOOMALIS, THE DAWLADIIDS.