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Makes sense now. :up:
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there u go V
http://www.trouw.nl/krantenarchief/1998 ... taald.html


MOSKOU (AP) - Na maanden wachten heeft Rusland gisteren 670 miljoen dollar ontvangen van het Internationaal Monetair Fonds (IMF). Dat heeft het persbureau Interfax dinsdag bekendgemaakt.
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the paki gov is the most scum of all the kufr govs.

these bastards are slaughtering "their" own people for the sake of the terrorist obama.

it's truly sick and treasonous what the filthy paki gov is doing... it's joined the enemy's war against "their" people instead of defending them from the terrorism of america like a gov suppose to.

may allah destroy the filthy paki taghoot gov.
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Somali-Star wrote:the paki gov is the most scum of all the kufr govs.

these bastards are slaughtering "their" own people for the sake of the terrorist obama.

it's truly sick and treasonous what the filthy paki gov is doing... it's joined the enemy's war against "their" people instead of defending them from the terrorism of america like a gov suppose to.

may allah destroy the filthy paki taghoot gov.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Suck on this Nigga! :lol:

1:54 :up: :up: :up: :up: Right through the windows. This is what you call precision strikes. :up:

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Shaamboo nothing you brought has anything to do with what you said sxb. :lol:
Russia will finally part of IMF loan disbursement

Russia will finally part of IMF loan disbursement

MOSCOW (AP) - After months of waiting, Russia yesterday 670 million dollars received from the International Monetary Fund (IMF). This Tuesday, the Interfax news agency announced.

The IMF decided last week the money released after months in Moscow urged to have an improved tax collection. The money was made yesterday in an account of the Ministry of Finance, as reported Interfax. The millions are not enough for the current shortages in the budget to complete, but it gives the government of Russian President Boris Yeltsin some room. The money is part of a loan of nine billion dollars that spread over three years paid. The IMF has already delayed payments due to dissatisfaction with the policies of the government.

Premier Sergei Kirijenko will vandaagin parliament the austerity plan of the government to defend. The plan aims to strengthen the public finances and the turmoil in the financial markets effectively. It is not clear whether the communist majority in the House, the State Duma, with the plan agreement.

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TL,

the paki army has the most disgraceful record when it comes war - yes, even worse than the arab armies. :shock: :shock:

how many times have the indian army humiliated them... to many to count. and who can forget when +90k paki soldiers surrendered to the monkey and cow worshippers without even putting up a fight.

the pakistani taliban will surely defeat em again like they've done so many times before...

suck on that...
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Somali-Star wrote:TL,

the paki army has the most disgraceful record when it comes war - yes, even worse than the arab armies. :shock: :shock:

how many times have the indian army humiliated them... to many to count. and who can forget when +90k paki soldiers surrendered to the monkey and cow worshipers without even putting up a fight.

the pakistani taliban will surly defeat em again like they've done so many times before...

suck on that...
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

In 1965 the Pakistan Air Force maintained a kill ratio of 3-1 against an Air Force 3 times bigger than it. It shot down at least 110 confirmed Indian air planes for the loss of less than 18 jets. In the land, they captured almost 30% of Kashmir and scored the first drowning of a battle-ship by a submarine since the second world war.

In 1971 they were defending a country thousands of miles away with a hostile population. Still on the Bengal front a squadron of Pakistan Air Force (~14 jets) denied the entire Indian Eastern Command air superiority over Bengal.

Know your history before you talk.

Pakistan Air Force is the only Air Force with a perfect 6-0 score against the most lethal air force in the world-the Israeli Air force.
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the most shameful act of surrender in warfare history - 93,000 armed professional military men surrendering to the cow and monkey worshippers.....

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Somali-Star wrote:the most shameful act of surrender in warfare history - 93,000 armed professional military men surrendering to the cow and monkey worshippers.....

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:oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Almost 90% were Bengalis. Those troops had to fight a hostile population and the Indian military. What they did was nothing short of miracle.
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"The air war lasted two weeks and the Pakistanis scored a three-to-one kill ratio, knocking out 102 Russian-made Indian jets and losing thirty-four airplanes of their own. I'm certain about the figures because I went out several times a day in a chopper and counted the wrecks below." "They were really good, aggressive dogfighters and proficient in gunnery and air combat tactics. I was damned impressed. Those guys just lived and breathed flying."
(General (Retd.) Chuck Yeager (USAF), Book: Yeager, the Autobiography). General Chuck Yeager, famous USAF test pilot, on deputation in Pakistan as US Defense Representative. The PAF remains the only foreign air force in the world to have received Chuck Yeager's admiration - recommendation that the PAF is proud of.

"He was a formidable fellow and I was glad that he was Pakistani and not Egyptian"

(Israel Air Force chief and ex-President Ezer Weizmen writing about PAF chief Nur Khan in his autobiography, On Eagles' Wings). ( The Israeli was SHOT Down by the Pakistani Pilot)
"As an air defense analyst, I am fully aware that the Pakistan Air Force ranks today as one of the best air forces in the world and that the PAF Combat Commanders' School (CCS) in Sargodha has been ranked as the best GCI/pilot and fighter tactics and weapons school in the world". As one senior US defense analyst commented to me in 1991, "it leaves Popgun (the US Naval Air Station in Miramar, California) far behind"
Sergey Vekhov May 1993 issue (pages 46-47) of Airforces Monthly, reputable UK-based airs defense magazine.
The PAF, although outnumbered by IAF (Indian Air Force), has at least one qualitative edge over its rival: Pilot Training. The caliber of Pakistani instructors is acknowledged by numerous air forces, and US Navy pilots considered them to be highly 'professional' during exercises flying off the USS Constellation (as co-pilots).
Jane's International Defense (June 24, 1998)
"By all accounts the courage displayed by the Pakistan Air Force pilots is reminiscent of the bravery of the few young and dedicated pilots who saved this country from Nazi invaders in the critical Battle of Britain during the last war."
Patrick Seale, The Observer, London, September 12, 1965.
"Pakistan claims to have destroyed something like 1/3rd the Indian Air Force, and foreign observers, who are in a position to know say that Pakistani pilots have claimed even higher kills than this; but the Pakistani Air Force being scrupulously honest in evaluating these claims. They are crediting Pakistan Air Force only those killings that can be checked from other sources."
Roy Meloni, American Broadcasting Corporation September 15, 1965.

"There is a smell of death in the burning Pakistan sun. For it was here that India's attacking forces came to a dead stop. "During the night they threw in every reinforcement they could find. But wave after wave of attacks were repulsed by the Pakistanis" "India", said the London Daily Times, "is being soundly beaten by a nation which is outnumbered by four and a half to one in population and three to one in size of armed forces."--The London Daily Mirror reported
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Every Man A Tiger:

"Iraqi pilot training came from three sources: France, Pakistan and the former Soviet Union. Lucky for us, Soviet training proved dominant, with their emphisis on rigid rules,strict command arrangements and standardized tactics. Coupled with this centralized
approach, the Soviets were suspecious of non- Russians and disliked Arabs. The Iraqi students were taught to take off and land their aircrafts safely, but otherwise their training was so basic, so lacking in advanced tactics, as to be useless. There was however a wild card. Not all Iraqi training came from the Russians.

Iraqi pilots, were trained well by their French and Pakistani instructors. Pakistan has one of the best, most combat ready airforces in the world. They have to; their neighbour to the east is huge, and the two nations, have a long history of hostilities. For Indian war planners, the Pakistan air Force is their worst fear. Pakistani pilots are respected throughout the world, especially the Islamic world, beause they know how to fly and fight

On one or two occasions, I had the oppertunity to talk with Pakistani instructor pilots, who had served in Iraq. These discussions, didn't give me great cause to worry. The Russian domination of training prevented the Pakistanis from having any real influence on the Iraqi aircrew training program.

Still, there had to be a few Iraqi pilots, who had observed and listened to their mentors from France and Pakistan and the useless guidence of their inept leaders. It was those few, I was concerned about - the ones with great situational awareness and good eyesight, who had figured out how to effectively use their aircraft and its weapons to defend their nation."

(General Chuck Horner (retd) and Tom Clancey. General Chuck commanded the US and allied air assets during Desert shield and desert storm, and was responsible for the design and execution of one of the most devestating air campaigns in the history. He also served as Commander 9th Air Force, Commander US Central Command Air Forces, and Commander in chief, SpaceCom. Book: Every Man A Tiger).
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try all you want, but the paki army is an embarrassment at the end of the day! an A for effort, though. :up:

the 65 war is the only time they've showed any dignity whatever of being an army - barely, though - and they were lucky that indian was pushed to accept ceasefire before pakistan became part of history.
According to the United States Library of Congress Country Studies:

The war was militarily inconclusive; each side held prisoners and some territory belonging to the other. Losses were relatively heavy--on the Pakistani side, twenty aircraft, 200 tanks, and 3,800 troops. Pakistan's army had been able to withstand Indian pressure, but a continuation of the fighting would only have led to further losses and ultimate defeat for Pakistan. Most Pakistanis, schooled in the belief of their own martial prowess, refused to accept the possibility of their country's military defeat by "Hindu India" and were, instead, quick to blame their failure to attain their military aims on what they considered to be the ineptitude of Ayub Khan and his government.[42]
TIME magazine analyzing the conflict,[43] reported that India held 690 Mi2 of Pakistan territory while Pakistan held 250 Mi2 of Indian territory in Kashmir and Rajasthan, Pakistan had lost almost half its armour temporarily. The same article stated that 'severely mauled by the larger Indian armed forces, Pakistan could continue the fight only by teaming up with Red China and turning its back on the U.N'.
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If only you could as patriotic about Somalia as you are about Pakistan sxb... :x
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Somali-Star wrote:try all you want, but the paki army is an embarrassment at the end of the day!

the 65 war is the only time they've showed any dignity whatever of being an army - barely, though - and they were lucky that indian was pushed to accept cease fire before pakistan became part of history.
According to the United States Library of Congress Country Studies:

The war was militarily inconclusive; each side held prisoners and some territory belonging to the other. Losses were relatively heavy--on the Pakistani side, twenty aircraft, 200 tanks, and 3,800 troops. Pakistan's army had been able to withstand Indian pressure, but a continuation of the fighting would only have led to further losses and ultimate defeat for Pakistan. Most Pakistanis, schooled in the belief of their own martial prowess, refused to accept the possibility of their country's military defeat by "Hindu India" and were, instead, quick to blame their failure to attain their military aims on what they considered to be the ineptitude of Ayub Khan and his government.[42]
TIME magazine analyzing the conflict,[43] reported that India held 690 Mi2 of Pakistan territory while Pakistan held 250 Mi2 of Indian territory in Kashmir and Rajasthan, Pakistan had lost almost half its armour temporarily. The same article stated that 'severely mauled by the larger Indian armed forces, Pakistan could continue the fight only by teaming up with Red China and turning its back on the U.N'.
WHAT IFs. There is a reason why we live in the real world. In the real world, India is being checked by a country 1/10th of its size :up:
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Voltage wrote:If only you could as patriotic about Somalia as you are about Pakistan sxb... :x
To you patriotism means rhapsodizing about "Aabe Siyad" and how glorious he was. I will let that pass :lol:
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