]It was narrated by al-Tabaraani in al-Awsat, al-Haakim, al-Bayhaqi in Shu’ab al-Eemaan and others that Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Love the Arabs for three reasons, because I am an Arab, the Qur’aan is Arabic and the speech of the people of Paradise is Arabic
Americans seek their African roots!!
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Re: Americans seek their African roots!!
^^ the Truth won
Anyway zorry laakin somalida Arabs mahaa African na mahaa
they come from Pakistan iyo
Anyway zorry laakin somalida Arabs mahaa African na mahaa
they come from Pakistan iyo
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Re: Americans seek their African roots!!
kukri, what a filth you're! you can't be a muslim while hating other muslims, especially the arabs.
among the most muslimeen, it's agreed upon that the arabs the most noble people due to allah swt favoring them.
Wathela Bin Al Asqa' narrated that he heard the prophet ( صلى الله عليه و سلم ) saying: Allah favored (chose) Kanana from the children of Ismael and favored (chose) Quraish from Kinaanah and favoured (chose) Quraish from Bani Hashim and he favored (chose) me from Bani Hashim . [ Sahih Muslim: 2276]
Rabi'e narrated the prophet said: O' people, Allah created his creation and made them into two groups. He placed me in the best group then he made this group into tribes and placed me in the best tribe" [ Al-Mustadrak: 5077]
among the most muslimeen, it's agreed upon that the arabs the most noble people due to allah swt favoring them.
Wathela Bin Al Asqa' narrated that he heard the prophet ( صلى الله عليه و سلم ) saying: Allah favored (chose) Kanana from the children of Ismael and favored (chose) Quraish from Kinaanah and favoured (chose) Quraish from Bani Hashim and he favored (chose) me from Bani Hashim . [ Sahih Muslim: 2276]
Rabi'e narrated the prophet said: O' people, Allah created his creation and made them into two groups. He placed me in the best group then he made this group into tribes and placed me in the best tribe" [ Al-Mustadrak: 5077]
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Re: Americans seek their African roots!!
Shaikhul Islaam ibn Taymiyyah said in Iqtidaa’ Assiraat alMustaqeem:
The belief of Ahlussunnati waJamaa’ah is that the essence of Arabs is better than that of ‘Ajam, whether the ‘Ajam are Hebrew, Assyrians, Romans, Persians or others.
Quraish is the best of Arabs, Bani Hashim are the best of Quaish, and Muhammad ASWS is the best of Bani Hashim. Therefore, Muhammad ASWS is the best of humanity, both in person and in lineage.
The virtue of Arabs, Quraish and then Bani Hashim is not just because the Prophet ASWS was from them, even though this is a part of virtue. Arabs are in themselves better. This is how it is proven that the Prophet ASWS is the best in person and lineage. Otherwise, a revolving argument will generate(2).
Abu Muhammad Harb bin Ismail alKirmaani, the companion of Imam Ahman, described his book of Sunnah by saying:
"This is the belief of Imaams of knowledge, those of Athar and well known people of Sunnah, which have been taken as examples. It is the belief of scholars of Iraq, Hijaaz, Sham and others.
Whomever goes against any of these Madhaahib, attacks them or despises those adopting them is a person of Bid’ah, he would be out side of Jamaa’ah, and inconsistent with the way of Sunnah and path of truth.
It is the Madhab of Ahmad, Ishaaq bin Ibrahim bin Makhlad, Abdullah bin Azzubair alHumaidee, Sa’eed bin Mansoor, and others with whom we have sat and from whom we have acquired knowledge.
Among their sayings were: Imaan is to say, do and believe …
We are to realize for Arabs their right, virtue and early acceptance of Islam. We are to love them because the Prophet ASWS said: loving Arabs is Imaan, and disliking them is hypocrisy. Shu’oobis and low Mawaale dislike Arabs and do not admit to their virtue. This is a Bid’ah and an inconsistency with the correct way. We do not say that which they say."
This was also narrated by Ahmad himself, in the book of Ahmad bin Sa’eed alIstakhree –if it is authentic-. It is the opinion of the general group of scholars.
A group of people said that there is no virtue for the Arab essence over the non-Arab essence. Those are called: Shu’oobis, because they wanted to bring victory to the Shu’oob, the opposite of tribes. Tribes are for Arabs, and Shu’oob are for ‘Ajam.
Some people might claim that some non-Arab nations are better than Arabs.
Usually, such talk is produced due to hypocrisy, either in belief or in actions resulting from self desires and some doubts.
This is why it was narrated in a hadeeth: loving Arabs is Imaan and disliking them in hypocrisy.”
Re: Americans seek their African roots!!
Somali-Star wrote:kukri, what a filth you're! you can't be a muslim while hating other muslims, especially the arabs.
among the most muslimeen, it's agreed upon that the arabs the most noble people due to allah swt favoring them.
Wathela Bin Al Asqa' narrated that he head the prophet ( صلى الله عليه و سلم ) saying: Allah favored (chose) Kanana from the children of Ismael and favored (chose) Quraish from Kinaanah and favoured (chose) Quraish from Bani Hashim and he favored (chose) me from Bani Hashim . [ Sahih Muslim: 2276]
Rabi'e narrated the prophet said: O' people, Allah created his creation and made them into two groups. He placed me in the best group then he made this group into tribes and placed me in the best tribe" [ Al-Mustadrak: 5077]
You can miss-quote the holy qur'an all you want.
1..Are Arabs human being?
if they are in your eyes then, they have filth, homos, peadophioles, rapist, murderers, liers, cheaters and so on...
So to put Arab before all the things above isnt an insult to the prophet but rather calling a spade a spade, nothing more nothing less. The prophet is above ordinary human being but the rest are no different than the rest of humanity as they are also just finite creatrures. and filthy ones for that!
"O People! Your God is one; your father is one; no preference of an Arab neither over non-Arab nor of a non-Arab over an Arab or red over black or black over red except for the most righteous. Verily the most honored of you is the most righteous."
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SOMALIANS ARE SOMALIANS ADEERO LOVE IT OR HATE IT!......WE ARE SOMALIAmilitary-mind wrote:^^ the Truth won
Anyway zorry laakin somalida Arabs mahaa African na mahaa
they come from Pakistan iyo
It was narrated by al-Tabaraani in al-Awsat, al-Haakim, al-Bayhaqi in Shu’ab al-Eemaan and others that Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Love the Arabs for three reasons, because I am an Arab, the Qur’aan is Arabic and the speech of the people of Paradise is Arabic
Re: Americans seek their African roots!!
Somaaalidu waa adoonti fircoon gumeysan jirey.
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^^^^YOUR *********** IS.....GO TO SOMALIA AND SAY THAT TO A REAL SOMALI PERSON!

Re: Americans seek their African roots!!
Well, how else can someone explain the confusion of somalis about their true identity. Can you imagine if their werent any clans? I mean at least now we have some dead guys to hide behind but once you get to the end of ina hebel hebel the bridge stops right there. construction discontinued; so its up to everyman/clan to carry on the rest and take it whichever way they want to.
Me i find fircoon very interesting. some people say fircoon means...firkii coon..i.e..reer coon ...coon = midget (short person).
Take a piece of paper and see if you can write down the symbols your clan use to brand their camels and ask couple of other somalis the same thing and see what you get. Hieroglyphics is what you'll get, or something similar.
So Somalis = fircooni or adoonti fircoon
Me i find fircoon very interesting. some people say fircoon means...firkii coon..i.e..reer coon ...coon = midget (short person).
Take a piece of paper and see if you can write down the symbols your clan use to brand their camels and ask couple of other somalis the same thing and see what you get. Hieroglyphics is what you'll get, or something similar.
So Somalis = fircooni or adoonti fircoon
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Re: Americans seek their African roots!!
STOP! wrote:]It was narrated by al-Tabaraani in al-Awsat, al-Haakim, al-Bayhaqi in Shu’ab al-Eemaan and others that Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Love the Arabs for three reasons, because I am an Arab, the Qur’aan is Arabic and the speech of the people of Paradise is Arabic
this so called hadith which was narrated by Al tabaari is a fals hadhiith.
prophet never said that QOUTE( LOVE ARABS). if thats true then you have to love(abu jahal) abu lahab)
becouse THEY were one of the worst people in islam and they were a arabs . therefore you can not say arabs are better than other people.
dont forget millions of arabs are christians too.
prophet scw muhamed he was muslim and you can not say he was an arab. he was not arab, but he was rasuuul and muslim before an other nationalty.
so you can be a MUSLIM and hate arabs. I MYSELF I HATE ARABS With all my heart. arabs are animals most racist animals in this planet.
look what TABAARI wrote about us, we BLACK PEOPLE( tabaari is one who narrated so called hadiiths whichs says arabs are holy and better than others.
)Shem, the son of Noah was the father of the Arabs, the Persians, and the Greeks; Ham was the father of the Black Africans; and Japheth was the father of the Turks and of Gog and Magog who were cousins of the Turks. Noah prayed that the prophets and apostles would be descended from Shem and kings would be from Japheth. He prayed that the African’s color would change so that their descendants would be slaves to the Arabs and Turks
this racist arab TABAARI siad we black people allah created us to slaves of arabs and other ligthe skinned people.
fok yu arab
fok
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Re: Americans seek their African roots!!
DR-YALAXOOW wrote:STOP! wrote:]It was narrated by al-Tabaraani in al-Awsat, al-Haakim, al-Bayhaqi in Shu’ab al-Eemaan and others that Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Love the Arabs for three reasons, because I am an Arab, the Qur’aan is Arabic and the speech of the people of Paradise is Arabic
this so called hadith which was narrated by Al tabaari is a fals hadhiith.
prophet never said that QOUTE( LOVE ARABS). if thats true then you have to love(abu jahal) abu lahab)
becouse THEY were one of the worst people in islam and they were a arabs . therefore you can not say arabs are better than other people.
dont forget millions of arabs are christians too.
prophet scw muhamed he was muslim and you can not say he was an arab. he was not arab, but he was rasuuul and muslim before an other nationalty.
so you can be a MUSLIM and hate arabs. I MYSELF I HATE ARABS With all my heart. arabs are animals most racist animals in this planet.
look what TABAARI wrote about us, we BLACK PEOPLE( tabaari is one who narrated so called hadiiths whichs says arabs are holy and better than others.)Shem, the son of Noah was the father of the Arabs, the Persians, and the Greeks; Ham was the father of the Black Africans; and Japheth was the father of the Turks and of Gog and Magog who were cousins of the Turks. Noah prayed that the prophets and apostles would be descended from Shem and kings would be from Japheth. He prayed that the African’s color would change so that their descendants would be slaves to the Arabs and Turks
this racist arab TABAARI siad we black people allah created us to slaves of arabs and other ligthe skinned people.
fok yu arab
fok
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Re: Americans seek their African roots!!
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Yalaxoow, that is called pseudo-history. Tabari and many of the other major medieval islamic scholars were refering to the Zanj - negroes who dwell in theeast coast of africa. He wasnt talking about us but the kenyans and tanzanians. We are and have always been refered to as somali. Besides, tabari writes that persians are the sun of shem, that would make them semitic, which is clearly wron since they are an Indo-aryan group of peple realted to the indians. Tabari was a persian historian so, I think he was trying to claim the persians were related to the prophets
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LOOK arab wanna be dabaal. yes TABARI WAS TALKING ABOUT YOU AFRICAN BLACK WHICH WE ARE SOOMALIS. WE ARE 110% BLACK AND THIS ARAB RACIST TABARI hes fake history about HAM WAS NOT ONLY ABOUT particular nationalty in africa ,KENYAN OR TANZANIAN BUT HES WAS talk about BLACK PEOPLE , waryaa LET ME TELL ONE THINK SOOMALIS are black people like any other blacks in africa. the word zinj is from black africans which racist arabs captured from zinjibaar. loook somalis and zinjis have same skinn colour(black) i dont know if your blind or not but we somalis we are 100% blacks.
and midievel arabia you SOOMAALI( or arab wanna be moron) and zinj kenyan ethiopian person would be called BLACK ABIIID .
this racist tabari who narrated mny hadiith said we children of haam(blacks) were curst therefore blacks should be slaves of arabs and turks and other ligth skinned people.
nasiib ayaad leedahay midievel arabia haddaad noolaan laheeyd mid carab ayaa ku lahaan lahaa.walaashaana waxaa laga dhigan lahaaa sex slave. ilaah ku mahadi waxaad nooshahay 20 century
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Re: Americans seek their African roots!!
you are in wrong thread,,, it's not about alshabaab 
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Re: Americans seek their African roots!!
Ganjaweed wrote:Surrender, Somalis in general, I dont know individualisticly, have >80% E3b1 haplogroup, 15% Eurasian (Usually T and J) and <5% Sub-saharan african. Their mitochondrial DNA consists of mostly M1 (exists in Siberian, Native American, East Asian, Southeast Asian, Central Asian, South Asian, Melanesian as well as Egyptian, Ethiopian, Somali, European, and various Middle Eastern populations). So, Yes we are more Eurasian, than african. Which is not to sya we arent african, since we have a strong genetic link to the horn of africa groups such as oromo, afar, tigray amhara etc groups. It is said that we originally came from upper egypt along with berbers, and south egyptians. But to be honest, genetics means zilch to me, i am somali and I am muslim and thats all that matters.
interesting. just a question. if is been said that we originally came from upper egypt along with berbers, and south egyptians; what are Egyptians? aren they arab mix african?
kukri we got you point: you dont like arabs that much. but before you start to call them names and all. ogow dad fiican baa kujira kuna jirijiray. 4 being prophets, and tons of sheekhyaal. so watch where you point your tongue at, generalising people is not good thing!
thanks stop.
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Re: Americans seek their African roots!!
racist kukri,
i guess according to you the prophet saw was a liar or imam al bukhari (ra) was fabricator.
btw, you're getting things confused. arabs are categorically preferred over other nations due to their virtues, not as individuals. just like the amrikans are richer than somalis but not every american is richer than every somali.;
at the end of the day, the virtues of the arabs does not benefit them in this dunya nor the akhira whatsoever!
i guess according to you the prophet saw was a liar or imam al bukhari (ra) was fabricator.
btw, you're getting things confused. arabs are categorically preferred over other nations due to their virtues, not as individuals. just like the amrikans are richer than somalis but not every american is richer than every somali.;
at the end of the day, the virtues of the arabs does not benefit them in this dunya nor the akhira whatsoever!
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