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Jowhar, Mahadaay and Shabelle dhexe are in Al Shabaab hands

Voltage wrote:

Twisted_Logic wrote:

Voltage wrote:Galmudug state ceased to exist. Ahlu Sunna pulled a coup de'tate

Also that map is wrong. Al Shabaab has since taken over Jowhar, all of Middle Shabelle, and most of Hiiraan up to the countryside of Beled-Weyne.

Galmudug does not exist anymore and Al Shabaab does not control Ceelbuur, and Hisbul Islam is not control Lower Jubba, Al Shabaab is. Hisbul Islam controls only the northern half of Gedo in the Jubba Valley and areas around Dhoobleey.

Al Shabab are only in Maxas and and part of Bulo Barte. The rest is in ICU hands

ICU doesn't exist. It was an umbrella for all Shiekhs whose military wing was Al Shabaab. It fractured long ago sxb. The last major military support of Shiekh Sharif in the region defected to Hisbul Islam when the speaker of the parliament asked for "neighboring state interference within 24 hours".

UIC continued to exist in Hiiraan man. It broke up along clan lines, with Xawadle remaining pro-government and securing their areas. Right now these militias control Baletweyne, and the rest of the state except maxas and a small portion of buulo barte.

Does that mean Ahl Sunnah Wal Jama'a is in control of all of Galgaduud and southern Mudug as well?

James Dahl wrote:Does that mean Ahl Sunnah Wal Jama'a is in control of all of Galgaduud and southern Mudug as well?

aren't they always fighting shabaab in galgaduud

oh well, the map is close to being correct

we'll just delete Galmudug's label

and then we'll make Ahlu Sunnah larger

the area of dispute will remain the same

and then we'll shade in shabeele dhexe/jowhar as in the hands of al shabaab

Fah your wrong - as far as Midisho of east ceerigabo is settled by the gadhweyn clan and controlled by somaliland

FAH1223 wrote: the area of dispute will remain the same

I disagree, there is no such thing as disputed area it shouldn't be recognised as disputed, the claimants are not even present in those areas.....the person that made the map is undermining the local administration, population and the local forces that have a presence.

If Puntland and another group claim kismayo does kismayo become a disputed area??

Executive wrote:

FAH1223 wrote: the area of dispute will remain the same

I disagree, there is no such thing as disputed area it shouldn't be recognised as disputed, the claimants are not even present in those areas.....the person that made the map is undermining the local administration, population and the local forces that have a presence.

If Puntland and another group claim kismayo does kismayo become a disputed area??

thats different, Puntland is all the way North

FAH1223 wrote:

Executive wrote:

FAH1223 wrote: the area of dispute will remain the same

I disagree, there is no such thing as disputed area it shouldn't be recognised as disputed, the claimants are not even present in those areas.....the person that made the map is undermining the local administration, population and the local forces that have a presence.

If Puntland and another group claim kismayo does kismayo become a disputed area??

thats different, Puntland is all the way North

My question is how is Buuhoodle for example a disputed area? hasn't Buuhoodle got a administation? police? army?

In those disputed areas there isn't a single puntlander or somalilander

Executive wrote:
My question is how is Buuhoodle for example a disputed area? hasn't Buuhoodle got a administation? police? army?

okay then why did i read that buhoodle was celebrating S-Land independence?

how would you fix the map, list me what to fix specifically

btw ducaysane, where is that at?

FAH1223 wrote:

Executive wrote:
My question is how is Buuhoodle for example a disputed area? hasn't Buuhoodle got a administation? police? army?

okay then why did i read that buhoodle was celebrating S-Land independence?

how would you fix the map, list me what to fix specifically

Thats a lie, where did you read that??? Source? Pics.

Somaliland independence has been celebrated in Xamar but not in buuhoodle...

There are all the news sites from buuhoodle

http://www.buuhoodlemedia.com
http://www.allcayn.com
http://www.widhwidh.com


Disputed regions = independent regions, the whole map is a flaw cause there are a lot of independent regions in Somalia. All the entites and administations are not that strong and they haven't got wide presence, they are very centralized and strong in a few towns. Does Puntland control Eyl where the pirates are strong? likewise they and somaliland don't control the regions they claim in Sool, sanaag and buuhoodle.

this is where i got it from

http://www.somalilandtimes.net/sl/2009/383/9.shtml

Somaliland times is the SLand version of the Puntland Post, they write not so much journalism as propaganda pieces...
Mind you Puntland Post has gotten better lately.

Fah here it is - Is the Area i Marked with the Red - its called Midisho and its settled by the Gadhweyn clan and controlled by sland

Fah

lol @ the sources

okay then

so............ wtf do you put in those areas

by ex's logic just about all of Somalia is outside the realm of anyone ruling it with local people administering

is it even possible to make a map of somalia's political dynamic?

i give up

ducaysane okay

i'll let paidmonk do the map