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Is Obama Worse Than Bush?

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Re: Is Obama Worse Than Bush?

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An article related to the topic:

Obama More Deadly for Afghan Civilians than Bush

The New Year’s first Afghan civilian killed by U.S/NATO action was a boy named Marjan (tr. Coral), killed on January 2nd. (1)The boy had allegedly wandered into a prohibited area in the Deh-Sabz district of Kabul. Marjan was walking home with friends when “international forces” gunned him down. The occupation soldiers got out of a white vehicle, shot Coral and sped away. Marjan is only one of 73-88 civilian Afghans or tribal Pashtuns killed by the U.S/NATO occupation forces during January 2009. Three days later, eight Afghan women, two children and two civilian men were killed by Australian forces in the Chora district of Uruzgan Province.

Much official ado has been made in Washington D.C. and in the U.S. corporate press about how the new Administration will be taking far greater care as regards Afghan civilians. Data analyzed below for January 2009 suggests that the deadliness of the Afghan war for civilians under the Obama clock significantly exceeds that registered under the outgoing Bush regime. Boys, women, girls, tribal leaders all have perished at the hands of the foreign occupiers.

During January 2009, twelve U.S/NATO forces’ actions (including one road accident where a MRAP military armored vehicle crushed an Afghan civilian car) resulted in 73-88 dead Afghan civilians (including five Pashtun tribes people in North Waziristan killed in a U.S. drone strike).

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http://www.infowars.com/obama-more-dead ... than-bush/
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Re: Is Obama Worse Than Bush?

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Why are you shocked? During the campaign season he talked about taking troops from Iraq and putting them in Afghanistan. Hes doing that right now and its one of the stupid policies he has implemented

and he is better than Bush... who the hell can be worse than Bush's dumbass
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Obama is worse:

1. He is shutting down Guantanamo Bay :down: :down:

2. He refuses to launch air strikes against Al Qaeda in Somalia :down: :down: :down:
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FAH1223 wrote:Why are you shocked? During the campaign season he talked about taking troops from Iraq and putting them in Afghanistan. Hes doing that right now and its one of the stupid policies he has implemented

and he is better than Bush... who the hell can be worse than Bush's dumbass
You, I, Obama and most everyone know Afghanistan or Al-Qaeda had nothing to do with the 911 attacks. We know it was an inside job. Military experts and analysts, decorated retired and in-service generals and top officials in Obama's administration stated many times there's no military solution to Afghanistan. Many Americans and Europeans have asked themselves (and continue to ask) what they are doing in Afghanistan, and what their governments are trying to achieve there. The same commanders who served under Bush are serving Obama. For instance, the new American commander in Afghanistan, disgraced Gen. Stanley A. McChrystal, the architect who is responsible for the coverup debacle of Pat Tillman, was serving under Bush. Millions of Americans are getting poorer. Many have taken the easy way of suicide along with their family members. The quality of life and service in the US continue to decline. Badly needed $billions in funds are being channeled to finance the war on terror, an unwinnable, unjustified and unnecessary war. All that, just so to "stay the course." Obama, the "smart" and peacenik president was supposed to put an end to that fiasco. Alas, he has "to stay the course."
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:lol: at the same old TAM.

How many "shaheeds" do you claim so far?
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Obama's Approval Drops 9 Points in a Month

Thursday, July 16, 2009 2:16 PM

President Barack Obama's approval rating has dropped nine percentage points in a month and now stands at just 56 percent, a new poll reveals.

http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/obam ... 36514.html

Deficit Tops $1 TRILLION, Obama’s Approval Ratings Slipping

The federal deficit has, for the first time ever, now tops one trillion dollars. The rising deficit is sparking renewed fears of inflation and higher interest rates. There is more talk this week among some Obama administration officials that a second round of stimulus may eventually be necessary.

Meanwhile, President Obama’s approval rating has fallen six points in the past month according to a new CBS poll, and there is growing concern over his handling of the economy and questions about the impact of the stimulus package.

Democratic leaders in the House and Senate pledged at a White House meeting yesterday that healthcare bills would be completed before the August recess. President Obama has said he wants something he can sign by October.

http://www.rotor.com/Default.aspx?tabid ... d905=61809
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Yeah, Obama should "stay the course" and continue to bleed America's economy.
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Rt Mjr Gen Stubblebine Blows Whistle on 9/11 Inside Job

Friday, Jul. 10, 2009 at 6:56 AM

For those of you who have been waiting for someone from the establishment to speak out, here it is on video: Rt. Army Major General Albert Stubblebine says a plane did not hit the Pentagon and the Twin Towers & Building 7 were brought down by controlled demolition. A second video provides the scientific evidence of the controlled demolition.
See the 2 videos at:
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/664.html

This was an American Reichstag Fire to perpetrate war and fascism so as to maximize the profits of the oil companies, munitions makers and in general, the capitalist class. No air defense can only mean that it was an inside job. If you need more, there is the controlled demolition of the Twin Towers and Building 7, which was not hit by an airplane, all of which fell in a few seconds, no resistance, in their own footprint, in small enough pieces to be carted away immediately, as they were, thus removing the evidence from this crime scene. One substance used to perpetrate the controlled demolition came from the military, namely thermate. This was clearly a military operation under the direction of Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice and Giuliani. As Stubblebine states, the capitalist press is clearly bought and paid for, promoting the government's conspiracy that jet fuel somehow caused heavily reinforced steelframe buildings to collapse. There were no hijackers on those planes; 9 of the so-called hijackers were alive on 9/12/01; the planes were on remote control guided by the military. One ended its flight in Cleveland; the hole in the ground in Pennsylvania had no bodies said the coroner. The Pentagon was damaged by construction explosives on the side of the building under construction and where the bookkeepers were who were about to expose the massive till tapping. A light military plane may have been used to fire a missile at the Pentagon, but there was certainly no fancy airplane manuever over the Pentagon by a huge jet and no huge jet hit the Pentagon.

Anyone who considers her/himself a radical of any kind, and any other thinking person, should IMMEDIATELY ASSUME that these kinds of obviously staged events are inside jobs until proven otherwise. There are no coincidences, no miracles as the scientific community reminds us in the second video.

If you have not been paying attention to the massive and growing body of literature on the subject, here it is:
Watch 9/11 Cover-Up on San Francisco Cable Channel 29 every Friday night, 8 p.m. to 8:30 p.m.
Listen to Guns & Butter on KPFA at 94.1 FM at 1 p.m. on Wednesdays and online at:
http://www.gunsandbutter.net/archives.php
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http://www.brasschecktv.com/
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/664.html

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http://la.indymedia.org/news/2009/07/228874.php
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Re: Is Obama Worse Than Bush?

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Here's a tidbit from one of your links:

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/176.html


"Know-nothing media gatekeepers

Bill Maher - and many others - need to get off their high horses and address the most important question of our time.

We know that 3,000+ innocent people were murdered on 9-11-01 and we know that those murders were used to justify the invasion of two sovereign countries and the shredding of the US Constitution.

Yet we still don't have ANY level of meaningful detail about the who, what, when, where, why and how of 9/11 - thanks to know-nothing media gatekeepers like Bill Maher.

Rosie O'Donnell raised the issue and was removed from daytime TV. She was the lone voice on the subject . "

You might want to evaluate some of these sources before posting them. Rosie O'Donnell is a lesbian comedienne who makes her living by stirring up controversy. The rest of that qashin doesn't even deserve comment.

The issue that should concern us here is the one you ignored, TAM. How many of the disappeared Somali-American youth are your brainwashed puppies? I don't care how you cut the takfiir, the nabadiid murder of innocent Muslims does not constitute jihad.
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General of all American Intelligence: 911 was a fraud!

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Your retired general, interviewed for German TV, says he doesn't know and he has no evidence......but......

:lol:

Here is what happened to the twin towers:

http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM/01 ... -0112.html

Now answer my question: How many of the shaheeds are yours?
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Grant wrote:Now answer my question: How many of the shaheeds are yours?
I've answered a similar question asked by hyperactive. Search for it.
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Clinton Outlines Continuation of Bush Policies Under Obama at CFR

In a speech at the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) on Wednesday, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton outlined the Obama administration’s foreign policy, which has been widely touted as a sharp break from that of his predecessor’s. Judging from commentary in the media, Obama has ushered in a new age of diplomacy and international engagement. Clinton herself suggested as much.

But setting aside the platitudes that comprised most of Clinton’s speech and looking closely at her remarks that actually spoke meaningfully towards U.S. policy under the Obama, a different picture emerges, one not of a change of course from Bush but rather of near perfect continuity between the two administrations.

Obama’s foreign policy parallels Bush’s. The train may have switched tracks, but it’s still headed in the same direction.

http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/200 ... ma-at-cfr/
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I'm just happy Obama is going to reform Health Care by the end of the year. :lol: :clap:
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Obama qob moos aa loo dhigey sxbkey. He stept in office with all kind of disaster. America's current economy which is probably one of the worst. This wars that is going on etcetra. With all those things hapening, he happen to be the first black president and guess what poeple will be screaming with? Ow! look at him! what is he doing? this is what we get when we give a black man the presidency.This man is stuck bro lol.

Speaking from the sideline, Americans should not even bother to have a black president. They are not ready yet. How the hell are going to have a black president while most of the blacks in the States live under the poverty level? Its like a top executive who makes multy million dalla a year and comes to a meeting with other executives while wearing an expensive sheek suit with sneakers. What a match!

You cant compare Obama to bushman. Can Bush even spell the word Muslim? Can he use it in a sentence?

Ismahan123 wrote:I'm just happy Obama is going to reform Health Care by the end of the year. :lol: :clap:

You have no insurance? :lol:
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Ma lahi, taada ma igu daray? $50 a month ba ku siina and alxamdulilah medically I'm sound. :lol:
Btw why are you putting so much emphasis on his skin color? I'm don't think there is any correlation between America electing its 1st AA president and the poverty levels of states in which there is a large population of blacks. Obama should be looked at as an individual and keeping his background in mind, he is not your avg AA. And he certainly did not get elected based on his skin color.
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