Forget that Saudi.. check the plight of this Qatari princess

[S-D-M]

Ragoow dumarkaan lalama murmo.


They all are on verge of running away from their homes. They need any excuse wale. They also obsessed with this fairytale called LOVE. There is no such thing as LOVE, but there is QOOQ.

Naagtan carbeed guriga sidi logu hayey beey iska kartay.


Cumar Dhuule (AUN) baa yiri "Cambayahow bislaadey cunista le Ubahan walee aad cadnool tahay"

[The Nomad]

what just for wanting to marry without her father's permission? but the man is muslim, and the father's refusal for the marriege had nothing to do with religion, but he's own desire. if thats the case she had right to runaway. but if otherwise maybe her father had a reason for refusing it. but i still dont understand why did he house arrest her for that long? i mean what will he gain, one day she will be out and marry whover allah will her to, and she will hate her father even more!!

No she doesent in islam , woman obeys the laws of her father ila laga guursanayo lamana guursan marka she has no right inay guriga ka baxsato dhaqan xummo

emprior you sound sillier and silleir by the day, the laws of her father kulahaa. lol maad waaantahay horta hore? what about if the freaking laws of her freaking father is not the laws of islam? then what eh? if he refused her to marry this muslim man, she has a right to refuse to marry at all untill she marries who she wants, and plus forced marriege is against our religion. so whats he ging to do? a) force her to marry a man she dont want? b) let her marry whoever she want as long as he's muslim and fellow the diin? or c) she doesnt marry at all and lives in that house as prisoner forever-single?

1. The father has the right to reject somebody if they are not suitable.

2. Those aren't the only criteria for marriage.

He used his discretion and decided against their marriage, instead of disobeying her father and hafiz she should've shown a little respect and respected his decision.

[ms.naliaa]

to arab menality.

[ms.naliaa]

1. The father has the right to reject somebody if they are not suitable.

2. Those aren't the only criteria for marriage.

He used his discretion and decided against their marriage, instead of disobeying her father and hafiz she should've shown a little respect and respected his decision.

Isnt marriage half the diin?

plus its pretty obvious the father refused for superficial reasons rather than "concern for his daughter".

[The Nomad]

1. The father has the right to reject somebody if they are not suitable.

2. Those aren't the only criteria for marriage.

He used his discretion and decided against their marriage, instead of disobeying her father and hafiz she should've shown a little respect and respected his decision.

Isnt marriage half the diin?

plus its pretty obvious the father refused for superficial reasons rather than "concern for his daughter".

We cannot speak on his behalf.

He could've rejected the Egyptian suitor for an reason, why're we assuming that it's because of his social status or colour? We are not in a position to question him, it's his daughter.

If it turns out he rejected him for an unislamic reason, he will be punished. That isn't allowed. But his daughter has brought many problems onto herself out of stubbornness .

[STOP!]

DON'T BELIEVE WHAT EVER YOU READ ON THE NET!

[Paddington Bear]

She's locked up in a palace? Oh poor woman!

[ms.naliaa]

1. The father has the right to reject somebody if they are not suitable.

2. Those aren't the only criteria for marriage.

He used his discretion and decided against their marriage, instead of disobeying her father and hafiz she should've shown a little respect and respected his decision.

Isnt marriage half the diin?

plus its pretty obvious the father refused for superficial reasons rather than "concern for his daughter".

We cannot speak on his behalf.

He could've rejected the Egyptian suitor for an reason, why're we assuming that it's because of his social status or colour? We are not in a position to question him, it's his daughter.

If it turns out he rejected him for an unislamic reason, he will be punished. That isn't allowed. But his daughter has brought many problems onto herself out of stubbornness .

Her choices are her own no? Shes not a child, shes in danger of harming herself, she should be free to chose her partner (as long as he is muslim).
You're right we cant speak for the reasons why the father refused her marriage...but can you speak of the inhuman way that is being treated?
Left in solitary confinment where her brothers can use her as their punshing bag? Seriously...thats messed up.

[Kolombo]

If the father refused her marriage proposal out of social status (which is the likely scenario here), then his guardianship over his daughter is void:

Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

If the wali refused to let a woman marry a man whose religious commitment and character are good, then guardianship passes to the next closest male relative on the father’s side, then the next closest and so on. If they refuse to arrange her marriage, as usually happens, then guardianship passes to the qaadi, and the qaadi should arrange the woman’s marriage. If the matter is referred to him and he knows that her guardians have refused to arrange her marriage, then he should do that, because he is the wali in cases where there is no specific wali.

The fuqaha’ (may Allaah have mercy on them) stated that if the wali repeatedly refuses marriage proposals from suitable men, then he is a faasiq (evildoer) and is no longer regarded as being of good character or as being a wali, rather according to the best known view of the madhhab of Imam Ahmad, he also forfeits the right to lead prayers and it is not valid to offer any congregational prayer behind him. This is a serious matter.

Quoted from Fataawa Islamiyyah, 3/148
http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/95405/ma ... 20proposal

If the man's character & practise of Islam was good, but the father still refused to marry her. His actions go against this hadith:

“If there comes to you (to propose marriage to your daughter) one with whose religious commitment and character you are pleased, then marry (your daughter) to him, for if you do not do that, there will be fitnah (tribulation) on earth and widespread corruption.”

[The Nomad]

1. The father has the right to reject somebody if they are not suitable.

2. Those aren't the only criteria for marriage.

He used his discretion and decided against their marriage, instead of disobeying her father and hafiz she should've shown a little respect and respected his decision.

We cannot speak on his behalf.

He could've rejected the Egyptian suitor for an reason, why're we assuming that it's because of his social status or colour? We are not in a position to question him, it's his daughter.

If it turns out he rejected him for an unislamic reason, he will be punished. That isn't allowed. But his daughter has brought many problems onto herself out of stubbornness .

Her choices are her own no? Shes not a child, shes in danger of harming herself, she should be free to chose her partner (as long as he is muslim).
You're right we cant speak for the reasons why the father refused her marriage...but can you speak of the inhuman way that is being treated?
Left in solitary confinment where her brothers can use her as their punshing bag? Seriously...thats messed up.

1. Of course, she has free will. But in this aspect (marriage) her fathers opinion carries more weight than her own.

2. I skim read the article, didn't see the abuse, etc. If she's being treated in that manner it's absolutely haram, her father can reject her suitor and give her punishment in accordance with the crime, but this is not allowed.

[ms.naliaa]

1. Of course, she has free will. But in this aspect (marriage) her fathers opinion carries more weight than her own.

2. I skim read the article, didn't see the abuse, etc. If she's being treated in that manner it's absolutely haram, her father can reject her suitor and give her punishment in accordance with the crime, but this is not allowed.

What should she be punished for.
Disobeying the father? Putting "shame" to the family name? Making her own choices?
It doesnt make sense to punish an adult for doing what an adult should do. If her father doesnt agree...he doesnt have to give concent..but a Sheikha can grant them marriage based on the circumstance...he could leave her be to live her life and disown her like he did with his other daughter.

[surrender]

1. The father has the right to reject somebody if they are not suitable.

if they are not suitable by which definition? islamically? or their own desire to force their daughters to marry some next prince (is likely in arab royals to want their daughter(s) to marry a prince, rich person, son of a CEO, their friend's son etc etc)

and anyways is Vice-versa. in other words if she doesnt think he's suitable for her she can say no too.

2. Those aren't the only criteria for marriage.

of course. but forced marriege isnt allowed in islam, so i was saying was, then what? whats the father going to do? force her to marry someone else? (which btw is not allowed). let her marry the man she chose/? or kep her in prison forever as she refuses he's decision and he refuses her decision?

He used his discretion and decided against their marriage, instead of disobeying her father and hafiz she should've shown a little respect and respected his decision.

why we she spend the rest of her life with a man she dont want, when she chose a man (who's btw is muslim) marry?

is her father who's playing ignorant in this case (from what i read the article only is what im going by) he's daughter want to marry a muslim man, he should give he's blessing and let her marry (unless in this story there's something ese going on whch we dont know).

[The Nomad]

1. Of course, she has free will. But in this aspect (marriage) her fathers opinion carries more weight than her own.

2. I skim read the article, didn't see the abuse, etc. If she's being treated in that manner it's absolutely haram, her father can reject her suitor and give her punishment in accordance with the crime, but this is not allowed.

What should she be punished for.
Disobeying the father? Putting "shame" to the family name? Making her own choices?
It doesnt make sense to punish an adult for doing what an adult should do. If her father doesnt agree...he doesnt have to give concent..but a Sheikha can grant them marriage based on the circumstance...he could leave her be to live her life and disown her like he did with his other daughter.

Leaving the country without consent.

This is Qatari royalty, be realistic, her father is not going to be happy if she marries a everyday worker from Egypt. She should understand that herself, wouldn't be in this predicament if she listened.

He didn't give consent, she didn't respect his decision.

[1_londoner]

Well If this girl thinks that the so called marriage is going to work by her running away and secretly getting married with no wali present and knowing her parents are not happy with it...shes seriously deluded.

[The Nomad]

1. The father has the right to reject somebody if they are not suitable.

if they are not suitable by which definition? islamically? or their own desire to force their daughters to marry some next prince (is likely in arab royals to want their daughter(s) to marry a prince, rich person, son of a CEO, their friend's son etc etc)

and anyways is Vice-versa. in other words if she doesnt think he's suitable for her she can say no too.

2. Those aren't the only criteria for marriage.

of course. but forced marriege isnt allowed in islam, so i was saying was, then what? whats the father going to do? force her to marry someone else? (which btw is not allowed). let her marry the man she chose/? or kep her in prison forever as she refuses he's decision and he refuses her decision?

He used his discretion and decided against their marriage, instead of disobeying her father and hafiz she should've shown a little respect and respected his decision.

why we she spend the rest of her life with a man she dont want, when she chose a man (who's btw is muslim) marry?

is her father who's playing ignorant in this case (from what i read the article only is what im going by) he's daughter want to marry a muslim man, he should give he's blessing and let her marry (unless in this story there's something ese going on whch we dont know).

1. Suitable to the fathers needs and Islamically.

2. Because the father has not deemed the man suitable.

3. The issue is far more complex than that.