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Shirib wrote:Well it looks like the punishment for rape is the same as zinna, death by stoning if the guy is married and 100 lashes if he is not married. The guy also has to pay the girl a meher. However if the rape was done at gun point, knife point, etc. then the rapist should be killed.

http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/72338/pu ... for%20rape

See what I mean?? WAYYY too complicated. Secular laws work best.

Crazy Cat Lady wrote:

Shirib wrote:Is the punishment for rape just a 100 lashes? I thought it was death?

Whenever I hear stuff like this I think maybe the Sharia is a little unfair towards women, then I think thats kafir-thought.

Just remember that Allah knows better than us

Shirib wrote:Well it looks like the punishment for rape is the same as zinna, death by stoning if the guy is married and 100 lashes if he is not married. The guy also has to pay the girl a meher. However if the rape was done at gun point, knife point, etc. then the rapist should be killed.

http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/72338/pu ... for%20rape

This implies rape is about sex, which it is not, very confusing....

chopping hands is our sharia nobody disagrees.....but there has to be legal islamic goverment...and if someone steal coz he was starving ..he should be jailed not chopped off his hand

Crazy Cat Lady wrote:
This implies rape is about sex, which it is not, very confusing....

Great point. Try telling that to dinosaur Islamists though..

michael_ital wrote:^^

Shirib wrote:Well it looks like the punishment for rape is the same as zinna, death by stoning if the guy is married and 100 lashes if he is not married. The guy also has to pay the girl a meher. However if the rape was done at gun point, knife point, etc. then the rapist should be killed.

http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/72338/pu ... for%20rape

See what I mean?? WAYYY too complicated. Secular laws work best.

Not really secular laws one guy gets a year and another gets 20, and another goes home free

Masha'allah. Excellent verdict.

Same happens in Sharia where the family of the perp can pay off the family of the vic to avoid punishment.

Shirib wrote:

Crazy Cat Lady wrote:

Shirib wrote:Is the punishment for rape just a 100 lashes? I thought it was death?

Whenever I hear stuff like this I think maybe the Sharia is a little unfair towards women, then I think thats kafir-thought.

Just remember that Allah knows better than us

u talk with people who dont believe allah .. dont steal if u dont want loss u hand . end of story

we fuckd use in 1993 and we will do it again if the come back

Can someone explain why the rapist has to pay meher to the victim? I mean rape is about power not sex, I cant get my head around this clause, help!

michael_ital wrote:Same happens in Sharia where the family of the perp can pay off the family of the vic to avoid punishment.

Thats only if the family agrees to it.

Secular law, one rapist walks free, one gets a year, and another 20 and the family gets nothing in each case.

Crazy Cat Lady wrote:Can someone explain why the rapist has to pay meher to the victim? I mean rape is about power not sex, I cant get my head around this clause, help!

Its like blood money thats all...

michael_ital wrote:Same happens in Sharia where the family of the perp can pay off the family of the vic to avoid punishment.

thats not sharia

sharia lays the law one way, people do things another

you're trying to use the current ignorance of the Muslim world to discredit sharia law and that ain't right

If a man rapes a woman, more rulings added to what Shirib posted

In addition, the rapist is subject to the hadd punishment for zina, even if the rape was not carried out at knifepoint or gunpoint. If the use of a weapon was threatened, then he is a muharib, and is to be subjected to the hadd punishment described in the verse in which Allah says (The recompense of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and do mischief in the land is only that they shall be killed or crucified or their hands and their feet be cut off from opposite sides, or be exiled from the land. That is their disgrace in this world, and a great torment is theirs in the Hereafter) (Al-Ma’idah 5:33).

Shirib wrote:Is the punishment for rape just a 100 lashes? I thought it was death?

Shariica is an ambiguous statment of how the law should work: it is not a code. ALL current versions are culturally biased.
Pakistani huduud condones honor killings. The Saudi version is biased against the non-Khaleeji and non-Wahaabbi. The Sudanese version victimizes half the country's population, with international consequences which are now leading to a referendum.

You need to define your shariica, something which is not easy in any political context. !!!!!!!

CCC

Again, as I said. Sharia laws are ancient, with no relevance to what we know now. Hence the neccessity to hasten it's demise.

Shirib

NOT very often, i'm afraid. You rape in a secular country, you do time, NOT 100 measly lashes. It diminishes the gravity of the crime, and illustates the low status accorded women in the Islamic world.

Shirib wrote:

Crazy Cat Lady wrote:Can someone explain why the rapist has to pay meher to the victim? I mean rape is about power not sex, I cant get my head around this clause, help!

Its like blood money thats all...

No, it isn't. It's a problem of violence by men directed at women. Nothing to do with "blood money", whatever THAT was suppposed to mean.

FAH

Exactly, which is why secular law is far superior.