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Re: FATWA: Most knowledgeable Somali Cleric says ONLF R Mujahids

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 8:42 am
by Queen_Arawello
seemeyer wrote:CAN'T ARGUE WITH THAT CONSIREING THEY ARE FIGHTING KUFFAR



Fadlan akhi..this video is priceless :up: :up:

Re: FATWA: Most knowledgeable Somali Cleric says ONLF R Mujahids

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 8:45 am
by Highland
"Jihadist" is a rude and offensive term used by the Zionist media. The word Jihad is an inner struggle as well as the right to fight for justice and honor.


Having said thus, PLO and its offshoot Hamas want an independent Palestinian state beyond the artificial UN borders. They differ on whether the goal is achievable? Personally, Only Allah knowns. Empires come and go, but it's not wise policy for the West (and they know it) to be dragged into another World War that is why they keep on pressuring the state of Israel with determination for a two state solution.

For a big war to be triggered, it takes only a great leader to rise up from the dismal conditions under which his people have suffered and lingered and for that nation to be technologically advancedd to produce its own nuclear material.

With regard to the Issue of Ogaden region, this new development of theological legitimacy by Shariif Abdi Nuur is a bad publicity for the struggle, methinks. For years the ONLF leaders have avoided the Issue of Ogaden to be embroiled in the Wahabi doctrine of global Islamic Government because it gives an ammunition to the ruthless Ethiopian regime and their claim that they are fighting terrorist organization.

From domestic viewpoint, it's a good image boost.

Re: FATWA: Most knowledgeable Somali Cleric says ONLF R Mujahids

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 8:50 am
by Highland
Queen Araweelo, keep the good fight. I wish to seek and take your hand from your honorable parent with your approval. :mrgreen:

Re: FATWA: Most knowledgeable Somali Cleric says ONLF R Mujahids

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 8:55 am
by Queen_Arawello
Highland wrote:Queen Araweelo, keep the good fight. I wish to seek and take your hand from your honorable parent with your approval. :mrgreen:

:lol: :lol: you're lil bit too late, señorita is married to the fisabililah struggle :mrgreen:

Re: FATWA: Most knowledgeable Somali Cleric says ONLF R Mujahids

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 8:58 am
by Queen_Arawello
Highland wrote: For years the ONLF leaders have avoided the Issue of Ogaden to be embroiled in the Wahabi doctrine of global Islamic Government because it gives an ammunition to the ruthless Ethiopian regime and their claim that they are fighting terrorist organization.

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Siyaasad wise many of the political leaders of JWXO living in the diaspora and who are actively campaigning for the cause employ nationalistic rhetoric when communicating with the international community.. these strategies are only designed to bring public awareness and lobby policy makers specially in capitol hill..but on the ground the armed wing (onlf) mujahids shed blood and sweat for the Muslim land under christian occupation...Ogaden is an all-ignored African-Palestine.

Re: FATWA: Most knowledgeable Somali Cleric says ONLF R Mujahids

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 9:54 am
by maxamedNomaD
edleh wrote:Some of the top leaders of ONLF were reported to have said that their struggle against the Xabuush of Ethiopia has nothing to do with Islam at all and that they're not fighting for the sake of Diin. If that is really true, how the hell can they be depicted as Mujaahideen? A Mujahid is a person whose intention is to die for the sake of Allah while defending his rights, the rights of his country as well as the rights of his people.

You never know somebodys inner intentions. Whats clear is that they are fighting oppression, genocide and injustice being commited to them, their mothers, sisters, and elderly, in they own ancestral land. They's silent genocide going there, far from media eyes.

Re: FATWA: Most knowledgeable Somali Cleric says ONLF R Mujahids

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 9:56 am
by The Nomad
Istaqfirullah. The Ethiopians have more right to the Mujahid label than the ONLF, at least they are fighting for a country with Muslim representation.

Inkaar Ogaden, Allah cursed them to forever be homeless.

Re: FATWA: Most knowledgeable Somali Cleric says ONLF R Mujahids

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 9:59 am
by Shirib
ONLF themselves have said that what they are fighting for is not a jihad :|

Re: FATWA: Most knowledgeable Somali Cleric says ONLF R Mujahids

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 10:02 am
by ModerateMuslim
they sure aint fighting fie sabillah. :down:

but at least they - not the scum leaders but the regular fighters who don't care for the batil and jahiliyyah onlf is fighting for - refuse to summit to the enslavement of stinking and aids-ridden ethiopians unlike the other somalis in ogadenia. :up:

Re: FATWA: Most knowledgeable Somali Cleric says ONLF R Mujahids

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 10:02 am
by Queen_Arawello
maxamedNomaD wrote:
edleh wrote:Some of the top leaders of ONLF were reported to have said that their struggle against the Xabuush of Ethiopia has nothing to do with Islam at all and that they're not fighting for the sake of Diin. If that is really true, how the hell can they be depicted as Mujaahideen? A Mujahid is a person whose intention is to die for the sake of Allah while defending his rights, the rights of his country as well as the rights of his people.

You never know somebodys inner intentions. Whats clear is that they are fighting oppression, genocide and injustice being commited to them, their mothers, sisters, and elderly, in they own ancestral land. They's silent genocide going there, far from media eyes.

:up: :up: :up: People are out there putting their lives on the line daily, getting killed for resisting an occupation and we have ill informed members who have the audacity question the legitimacy of the struggle and dwell on a trivial useless issue as a name over an entire struggle that has cost millions of lives and property that has spanned over 50 years..this topic is too complex for the average western raised Somali who usually doesn't have credible first-hand information at their disposal to understand. It's only with thorough studying, understanding and analysis of true historical facts that one can begin to critically assess the issues.

Re: FATWA: Most knowledgeable Somali Cleric says ONLF R Mujahids

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 10:03 am
by ModerateMuslim
The Nomad wrote:Istaqfirullah. The Ethiopians have more right to the Mujahid label than the ONLF, at least they are fighting for a country with Muslim representation.

Inkaar Ogaden, Allah cursed them to forever be homeless.
now don't be a kuffar loving scum :down:

Re: FATWA: Most knowledgeable Somali Cleric says ONLF R Mujahids

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 10:04 am
by IZNOGOOD
ONLF are secular tribal nationalist rebels no Mujahideen.

Re: FATWA: Most knowledgeable Somali Cleric says ONLF R Mujahids

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 10:08 am
by The Nomad
Somali-Star wrote:
The Nomad wrote:Istaqfirullah. The Ethiopians have more right to the Mujahid label than the ONLF, at least they are fighting for a country with Muslim representation.

Inkaar Ogaden, Allah cursed them to forever be homeless.
now don't be a kuffar loving scum :down:
I don't love the ONLF.

Re: FATWA: Most knowledgeable Somali Cleric says ONLF R Mujahids

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:15 am
by Highland
Queen_Arawello wrote:
Highland wrote:Queen Araweelo, keep the good fight. I wish to seek and take your hand from your honorable parent with your approval. :mrgreen:

:lol: :lol: you're lil bit too late, señorita is married to the fisabililah struggle :mrgreen:

What if I be like Nur Mujahid, kill the emperor(zenawi) of Ethiopia and bring his head to you? :lol:

Re: FATWA: Most knowledgeable Somali Cleric says ONLF R Mujahids

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:23 am
by Mr. Yungnfresh
Paddington Bear wrote:
Mr. Yungnfresh wrote:Alot of people think that fighting kuffar is jihad...if that was the case, I'd be a mujaahid every year since I was 9 with all the cadaan boys I done whooped. If you're not fighting for the religion, then ur fight ain't a jihad even if ur fighting an oppressor who happens to be gaal.
Make it up as you go along, saaxib. Are you a member of Al Shabab perchance? :mrgreen:

I think at this point I am going to shove E Sista out fo the way, punch The Nomad's nose out of join and strangle Somali Star with his own headscarf just so I can use the phrase 'Where does it say that in the Quran or Hadeeth'! :lol:

In short: Source please. :mrgreen:
So ur saying I'm a mujahid for every gaal i fought on the playground :shock:

The burden of proof is upon you when you claim something is Jihad. Jihad and what constitutes it is well known, and if you introduce something as "Jihad Fisabiilillah", the onus is upon you to legitimize your claim by supporting it with Quran and/or Hadith.

In short: Source please. :mrgreen: