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Re: Fatwa against the Niqab

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:58 am
by ModerateMuslim
Leila25 wrote:Niqab, strict segregation, travel restrictions, mahrem laws are designed...
...designed by who?

Re: Fatwa against the Niqab

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:59 am
by Crazy Cat Lady
fisabililah wrote:this is what is known as
fatwaa shoping,
if you look far enough you will find someone to make anything halal or haram. alhamdulilah that our religion is based on evidence as for tantawi we say what allah swt revealed:


ولا تلبسوا الحق بالباطل وتكتموا الحق وأنتم تعلمون
And cover not Truth with falsehood, nor conceal the Truth when ye know (what it is).2:42
Any sane Muslim would already understand that the niqaab has no place in Islam, do you have any evidence that the niqaab is required? cos I think this hadith is pretty darn clear;
Asma, daughter of Abu Bakr, entered upon the Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) wearing thin clothes. The Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) turned his attention from her. He said: 'O Asma, when a woman reaches the age of menstruation, it does not suit her that she displays her parts of body except this and this, and he pointed to her face and hands- Narrated by Aisha RA
Unless you're shia you cannot disagree with this.

Re: Fatwa against the Niqab

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:00 am
by ms.naliaa
Leila25 wrote:Niqab, strict segregation, travel restrictions, mahrem laws are designed to restict women from access to opportunities and treat them as second class citizens. If any man supports putting women behind a mask then he is admitting to being a sexual predator that cannot control his behaviour.

How are you making this the mans fault? The woman chose to wear it for herself no?

Unless you're speaking of countries that have made it MANDATORY to wear the niqab..you can not fault the man.

Re: Fatwa against the Niqab

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:10 am
by Queen_Arawello
This is laughable, It reminds the fatwa against disney's Mickey Mouse :lol: :lol:

“The shari’a refers to the mouse as ‘little corrupter,’ and says it is permissible to kill it in all cases. It says that mice set fire to the house, and are steered by Satan. The mouse is one of Satan’s soldiers" :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



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Re: Fatwa against the Niqab

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:19 am
by Leila25
I am not putting men at fault only however the quran and the sunnah has always been interpreted by men to the detriment of women. Nowdays if you wear niqab and help your husband get a second wife you will be described as a "pious sister" and your place in jannah guaranteed.

Re: Fatwa against the Niqab

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:20 am
by kambuli
Anway wasn't the Niqaab for those women who so beautiful that are afraid to be FITNA to men because of their extreme beauty?

I am with no Niqaab.. :up: How can we tell if it is a man in that Niqaab?

Re: Fatwa against the Niqab

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:22 am
by ms.naliaa
Leila25 wrote:I am not putting men at fault only however the quran and the sunnah has always been interpreted by men to the detriment of women. Nowdays if you wear niqab and help your husband get a second wife you will be described as a "pious sister" and your place in jannah guaranteed.

You can take the power into your own hands and understand the religion yourself. Dont leave it up to a man to decipher the quaraan and religion for you.

Re: Fatwa against the Niqab

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:24 am
by Mr. Yungnfresh
Fatwa allowing neighbours to demand the divorce of couples
The Sheikh responsible for fatwa, Sheikh Gamal Qutb, told Arab news station Al Arabiya, “If the evidence the neighbours present is verified, the court has the right to divorce the couple”
http://middleeastblog.wordpress.com/200 ... e-couples/

MashaAllah?

Re: Fatwa against the Niqab

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:30 am
by Crazy Cat Lady
Mr. Yungnfresh wrote:Fatwa allowing neighbours to demand the divorce of couples
The Sheikh responsible for fatwa, Sheikh Gamal Qutb, told Arab news station Al Arabiya, “If the evidence the neighbours present is verified, the court has the right to divorce the couple”
http://middleeastblog.wordpress.com/200 ... e-couples/

MashaAllah?
"Dr. Izzat Atiyya, issued a fatwa in 2007, stating that if a woman breast-fed her male colleague at least five times a day she could then reveal her hair to him as there would be a “family bond”."
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: I think im gonna piss myself! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Fatwa against the Niqab

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:32 am
by Leila25
ms.naliaa wrote:
Leila25 wrote:I am not putting men at fault only however the quran and the sunnah has always been interpreted by men to the detriment of women. Nowdays if you wear niqab and help your husband get a second wife you will be described as a "pious sister" and your place in jannah guaranteed.

You can take the power into your own hands and understand the religion yourself. Dont leave it up to a man to decipher the quaraan and religion for you.
It is easier said than done when it is presented to you that this version of Islam is the correct one and by doing so you will be up there with the prophet's wives. We need a counter balance of information and that is not happening, thanks to Saudi money.

Re: Fatwa against the Niqab

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:38 am
by *Nobleman*
Mr. Yungnfresh wrote:Fatwa allowing neighbours to demand the divorce of couples
The Sheikh responsible for fatwa, Sheikh Gamal Qutb, told Arab news station Al Arabiya, “If the evidence the neighbours present is verified, the court has the right to divorce the couple”
http://middleeastblog.wordpress.com/200 ... e-couples/

MashaAllah?

ahahaha most retarded fatwa bar none.

With regards to the topic BBC as a fatwa source? lol. Also i'm sure most will agree that there is no evidence making niqab compulsory, but then there is no evidence suggesting that the niqab should not be worn. Either way props to sisters that wear the niqab, manshallah.

Re: Fatwa against the Niqab

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:42 am
by Executive
Crazy Cat Lady wrote: Any sane Muslim would already understand that the niqaab has no place in Islam, do you have any evidence that the niqaab is required? cos I think this hadith is pretty darn clear;
Asma, daughter of Abu Bakr, entered upon the Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) wearing thin clothes. The Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) turned his attention from her. He said: 'O Asma, when a woman reaches the age of menstruation, it does not suit her that she displays her parts of body except this and this, and he pointed to her face and hands- Narrated by Aisha RA
Unless you're shia you cannot disagree with this.




So where is the fatwa against wearing gloves?

Re: Fatwa against the Niqab

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:47 am
by Crazy Cat Lady
Executive wrote:
Crazy Cat Lady wrote: Any sane Muslim would already understand that the niqaab has no place in Islam, do you have any evidence that the niqaab is required? cos I think this hadith is pretty darn clear;
Asma, daughter of Abu Bakr, entered upon the Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) wearing thin clothes. The Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) turned his attention from her. He said: 'O Asma, when a woman reaches the age of menstruation, it does not suit her that she displays her parts of body except this and this, and he pointed to her face and hands- Narrated by Aisha RA
Unless you're shia you cannot disagree with this.




So where is the fatwa against wearing gloves?
:|

Re: Fatwa against the Niqab

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:55 am
by Executive
Crazy Cat Lady wrote:
Executive wrote:
Crazy Cat Lady wrote: Any sane Muslim would already understand that the niqaab has no place in Islam, do you have any evidence that the niqaab is required? cos I think this hadith is pretty darn clear;
Asma, daughter of Abu Bakr, entered upon the Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) wearing thin clothes. The Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) turned his attention from her. He said: 'O Asma, when a woman reaches the age of menstruation, it does not suit her that she displays her parts of body except this and this, and he pointed to her face and hands- Narrated by Aisha RA
Unless you're shia you cannot disagree with this.




So where is the fatwa against wearing gloves?
:|

Based on your logic Niqaab should not be worn cause the hadith stated that your face and hands can be displayed. Applying the same logic should there be a fatwa against wearing anything that covers your hands??

As Nobleman stated there is no evidence suggesting that the niqab should not be worn.

Re: Fatwa against the Niqab

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:04 am
by Crazy Cat Lady
Dude, I think people should be able to wear what they like, I was merely arguing that it is completely unnecessary and that it goes against the point of hijaab.