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Re: Can Shiites be called Muslims?

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:09 am
by Abdi_westldn
black velvet wrote:Did God appoint you to become Islam police? Iskuxishow Ilaahey kacabso
Shut up and contribute to the discussion if you can make valid points otherwise iiska yac. :arrow:

Re: Can Shiites be called Muslims?

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:12 am
by black velvet
Abdi_westldn wrote:
black velvet wrote:Did God appoint you to become Islam police? Iskuxishow Ilaahey kacabso
Shut up and contribute to the discussion if you can make valid points otherwise iiska yac. :arrow:

That is a valid point. Calling someone a kufr is a sin and a serious one infact. If you see yourself as such a good Muslim then perhaps you should practise what you preach.

Re: Can Shiites be called Muslims?

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:16 am
by Advo
I spoke with a shite before and he dispelled many sentiments I held of them.

The sect he was from was lil different than sunnis but not much, however he broke down all party of ali groups.

Out of 11, he said only one can be considered Muslims which made sense and Ahmedinajad also was from his sect.

Re: Can Shiites be called Muslims?

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:26 am
by Abdi_westldn
black velvet wrote:
Abdi_westldn wrote:
black velvet wrote:Did God appoint you to become Islam police? Iskuxishow Ilaahey kacabso
Shut up and contribute to the discussion if you can make valid points otherwise iiska yac. :arrow:

That is a valid point. Calling someone a kufr is a sin and a serious one infact. If you see yourself as such a good Muslim then perhaps you should practise what you preach.

Black Velvet you sound a lot like a air head honestly have you read the topic or what was discussed here did you click the links that were provided or did you just decide to be a smart ass and drop your opinion on the matter. I provided reasons for why I believe they're not Muslims and so have other ppl on this forum, matter of fact renown Islamic Scholars have said alot about the Sahaba insulting shiites...heres a little proof for one such as yourself who speak's without any knowledge:-

"Imam Malik: Once when asked about the raafidi Shia, Imam Malik said; "Do not speak to them or narrate from them, for surely they are liars." During one of Imam Malik's classes, it was mentioned that the raafidi Shia curse the sahaba. Imam Malik recited the verse, "Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah and those with him are harsh with the disbelievers and gentle among themselves. So that the disbelievers may become enraged with them." (48:29) He then said, "Whoever becomes enraged when the sahaba are mentioned is the one about whom the verse speaks." (Tafseer al-Qurtubi)"

So you see I'm not alone in questioning their Muslimnimo so adiga iisku xiishow and think before you speak. :mrgreen:


ps. Shia's is a sect in Islam and not a person you do know that right? :|

Re: Can Shiites be called Muslims?

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:29 am
by Abdi_westldn
Advo wrote:I spoke with a shite before and he dispelled many sentiments I held of them.

The sect he was from was lil different than sunnis but not much, however he broke down all party of ali groups.

Out of 11, he said only one can be considered Muslims which made sense and Ahmedinajad also was from his sect.

It's kinda funny but Irani's outside of Iran are actually saying Ahmedinajad's family are actually jewish.

Re: Can Shiites be called Muslims?

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:38 am
by djibsomali
the question is what is a muslim?

I did not knew that Allah has appointed you to take millions of muslims out his deen..

Re: Can Shiites be called Muslims?

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:44 am
by Abdi_westldn
djibsomali wrote:the question is what is a muslim?

I did not knew that Allah has appointed you to take millions of muslims out his deen..
Hey wise guy, can you follow Shia's heedths? Can you go by their fiqhs and their way of doing things if not then I present this question to you aren't they like you a Muslim or do you live differently to how you speak?

Re: Can Shiites be called Muslims?

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:46 am
by djibsomali
If you are serious about your question, just answer my question.

What is a muslim??

Re: Can Shiites be called Muslims?

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:50 am
by Abdi_westldn
djibsomali wrote:If you are serious about your question, just answer my question.

What is a muslim??
One who follows the teaching of Islam, now answer mine.

Re: Can Shiites be called Muslims?

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:53 am
by djibsomali
La Illaha ilalah maa sidasaa kaa run aa??
Are you serious??

Could you try again the question: (you can google as well)

What is a muslim???


I will answer any question you like once you try again

Re: Can Shiites be called Muslims?

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:55 am
by Ganjaweed
Abdi_westldn wrote:
djibsomali wrote:If you are serious about your question, just answer my question.

What is a muslim??
One who follows the teaching of Islam, now answer mine.
Actually, it's more like; one who follows the teachings and guidance of the quran and the traditions (sunnah) of the prophet Muhammad(saws).

In that sense, the shiites practise neither the former nor the latter of the statement above. So, the real qusetion is; why do you care?

Re: Can Shiites be called Muslims?

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:58 am
by djibsomali
No wonder none of you guys know the basic of islam!

Re: Can Shiites be called Muslims?

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:00 am
by djibsomali
If i did asked this same question of what is a muslim children in somali who went to basic quran schools.

I would had the answer straigth away!!

and you with google on your side you can even answer correctly of what is a muslim??

shame
shame
shame

Re: Can Shiites be called Muslims?

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:03 am
by Abdi_westldn
djibsomali wrote:La Illaha ilalah maa sidasaa kaa run aa??
Are you serious??

Could you try again the question: (you can google as well)

What is a muslim???


I will answer any question you like once you try again
Actually let me build on what you said ganja it's more like One who submits to the will of God that is what the word Muslim means. But what Djib fails to understand is that our religion is not so simply but actually very broad and that answering such a question could literally be a PHD thesis, now freaking answer mine or get out of my topic.

Re: Can Shiites be called Muslims?

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:05 am
by djibsomali
Are you guys serious??

wallahi i think you guys can't even read surrat fatihaa??
if I goes by what you are writing here!!!

Cajiib!!